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AngryPaul
03-05-2004, 06:55 PM
So, Leeds United are basically down and out. Next stop: Nationwide Divison 1 :(
But where did it all go wrong. It was 2 years to the day yesterday that Leeds were in the Champions League semi-finals. :eek: Was it O'Leary? Was it the players? Or do you blame the chairman: Peter Risdale?
*To any Leeds fans, as a United fan, I actually wanted you to stay up ;)*
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40107000/jpg/_40107425_leedswoe.jpg
streety
03-05-2004, 07:04 PM
We were chatting about this down the pub last night.
Personally I think it is down to Risdale. Shouldn't have sold their key players and got rid of O'Leary.
I also blame Viduka, stupid dismissals recently. What a tw*t!!!
I don't know why some people blame O'Leary. He wanted more money and his key plaers not to be sold so they sacked him. Shocking!!
Cap'n Zola
03-05-2004, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Streety
I also blame Viduka, stupid dismissals recently. What a tw*t!!!
Ahh...see, up here in Scotland, we're smart. Celtic had him and got rid of him as soon as they could! :p
I don't think it's players fault, I think it is down to Risdale, it's a real shame too, to see a club that was so great only a couple years ago. They're just not the sorta club that gets relegated! :(
Come on Chelsea btw!
dogincognito
03-05-2004, 07:22 PM
Ridsdale. Hes responible for the terrible finances, he spet money they didnt have so when they didnt get Champions Laegue places, they were screwed :(
:(
my beloved leeds
I don't really know what went wrong, Risdale gave O'Leary money to be a champion leauge team, when we didn't make it and suffered aload of injuries we where strugelling and in debt, off pitch troubles both in court and financially didn't help.
Risdale had always been a fans fovorite so you knew somthing was wrong when we all turned agaisnt him, so he sacks O'Leary partially cos of the book (which was stupid ... it was a rubbish book aswell) and partially cos he could I recon he felt he needed to show peoplehe was the boss. Then we get Venables who not only doesn't win but sells all our players (people like Woodgate and Keane should never of left, yet we still have Harte and Kelly) and replaces them with players like Barmby.
Things go really wrong so once again Venables goes and Reid comes in, and it looks like hes sorting us out (got the loans in but they never did anygood apart from Penant) However this season when we go back to not winning bye bye Mr Reid (oh and Risdale has alos left) then Grey comes in and gets us into a decent side ... who lose alot and has a really dodgy defence.
I blame the champion league pressure and it spiraled out from there
dogincognito
03-05-2004, 07:32 PM
But the Champions League pressure was a result of Peter Ridsdale giving O'Leary more money then you had.
im happy those twats went down cos:
1. city are staying up
2. alan smith is a diving prick
2. viduka could go to city (please)
AngryPaul
03-05-2004, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Peej
im happy those twats went down cos:
1. city are staying up
2. alan smith is a diving prick
2. viduka could go to city (please) Are you a Man City fan? :rolleyes:
Originally posted by dogincognito
But the Champions League pressure was a result of Peter Ridsdale giving O'Leary more money then you had.
I'd say it was a chciken and egg kinda situation
and Peej
u can have Viduka
AngryPaul
03-05-2004, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Dr S
u can have Viduka I can see him doing a Pierre van Hoojdonk and buggering off as soon as the start of the season comes. Hopefully they will sell him before that happpens to some crap team.
*Another ex-Celtic player - A pattern maybe?*
Originally posted by Dr S
I'd say it was a chciken and egg kinda situation
and Peej
u can have Viduka
thanks
Are you a Man City fan?
yes
i-am-the-eggman
04-05-2004, 01:51 AM
Ridsdales to blame - one of the drawbacks of having a passionate fan as a chairman, he can easily become blinded by the bright lights of success and splash out money he doesnt have.
A well run club would only make money available that they actually have to spend, not money that they might get from spending the money.
Dont think you can really blame o'leary because he bought the players as he shouldnt have been given the money in the first place - when he first went to villa a lot of us blues supporters thought "ah he wont do that well, he wont have money to burn" but well done to oleary for losing that stigma.
Its a sad state of affairs hes got you into, and by the sounds of it man city arent too far off (60mill+ debt?)
it couldve been a whole lot worse had the FA not let you off on several accounts.
AngryPaul
04-05-2004, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by i-am-the-eggman
Ridsdales to blame - one of the drawbacks of having a passionate fan as a chairman.I know - It is a shame as well because they were an exciting team with plenty of potential, but a little failure affected morale i believe. Mind you, needlessly sacking O'Leary and then selling LOADS of players was a bit worse :eek:
It is a real shame at the amount of players that will leave for pittence and no-where near their value (IE: Paul Robinson = £2m, Ian Harte, £500k)
id say the players as they are not doing the work there payed to do so i cant bring myself to blame the manager or chairman
AngryPaul
04-05-2004, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Peej
id say the players as they are not doing the work there payed to do so i cant bring myself to blame the manager or chairman He has got a point that it is players who lost the games not the board, but outside influences can be much more powerful than you first think. :eek:
Explosivo
04-05-2004, 03:27 PM
i blame the chairman for the simple fact he spent 1.5million pounds on designer gold fish in the colour of the leeds home and away kits because a fun shi consultant told him to, now thats just stupididty
good point angry paul but the players could play better to get them out of debt and then they would be fine and could have probably stayed up and i feel sorry for you leeds fans as when i was watching the match (leeds vs bolton) a kid about 9 years old was badly crying.
AngryPaul
04-05-2004, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Peej
a kid about 9 years old was badly crying. But still singing away - Bless
elliekinz
04-05-2004, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Peej
a kid about 9 years old was badly crying.
yes but nobody cares for the poor 14 year old who was crying!!!!
Ridsdale was to blame all the money problems all the money leeds made went in his back pocket. but us going down is mainly the players fault they always paniced and ended up running around the pitch like headless chickens!!!
do any leeds fans want to come to the police with me and get ridsdale done for fraud???????
luckly we have the best fan base second to none in England. And if they balance who they sell to relive wages and who they bring in both from the youth and transfers I'm sure we'll bounce up maybe not next season but the one after
elliekinz
04-05-2004, 06:41 PM
we're going down, but we'll be back. we're going down but we'll be back.
we've gone down just doesn't have the same ring to it!
Sketch
04-05-2004, 06:43 PM
I blame the bad financing, which is basically the chairmans fault.
Being a Hull City fan (promoted, woooo) Leeds are one of our biggest rivals, and so part of me is happy that they got relegated... We may be playing them in the league soon...
elliekinz
04-05-2004, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Sketch
I blame the bad financing, which is basically the chairmans fault.
Being a Hull City fan (promoted, woooo) Leeds are one of our biggest rivals, and so part of me is happy that they got relegated... We may be playing them in the league soon...
and when we play you we will trash you!!:rolleyes:
Sketch
04-05-2004, 06:49 PM
No, you see, we actually win games.
In reality, our sides probably wont play in the same league... Leeds will probably get relagated again, and up we go...
:D
sad thing is hes probally right
however
MARCHING ON TOGETHER
WE'RE GOING TO SEE YOU WIN
TRA LA LA LA LA LA
WE ARE SO PROUD
WE SHOUT IT OUT LOUD
WE LOVE YOU LEEDS
LEEDS
LEEDS
Dingbat
04-05-2004, 07:41 PM
Pah.
Doncaster Rovers will beat you all!
YOU ALL!
Especially Hull. :p
Sketch
04-05-2004, 08:11 PM
Lies, all lies...
Hull is richer, therefore can get better players...
Plus, we have the best team logo there is...
Dingbat
04-05-2004, 08:43 PM
Division 3 Champions mean anything to you?
And our stadium's rubbish!
:p
elliekinz
06-05-2004, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Dr S
sad thing is hes probally right
however
MARCHING ON TOGETHER
WE'RE GOING TO SEE YOU WIN
TRA LA LA LA LA LA
WE ARE SO PROUD
WE SHOUT IT OUT LOUD
WE LOVE YOU LEEDS
LEEDS
LEEDS
you missed the we've been through it all together and we've had our ups and downs (literally) verse.
well we are now officaily relegated
:(
And I thought we maight stay up. We only needed 2 19-0 wins
sheep go moo
09-05-2004, 09:52 AM
i think it was the guy who got himself sent off, that is why they lost
Viduka ?
Yeah hes usless . can score but thats about all.
i-am-the-eggman
09-05-2004, 10:32 AM
well thats good considering hes a striker:p
elliekinz
09-05-2004, 01:48 PM
teh premiership table is upside down we're staying up and teh scum are going down!!!!
AngryPaul
09-05-2004, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by elliekinz
teh premiership table is upside down we're staying up and teh scum are going down!!!! Of course :it is :rolleyes: and Wimbledon are coming up :p
*That would make it all Theirry Henry's fault that The Arse are going down :D*
elliekinz
09-05-2004, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by AngryPaul
*That would make it all Theirry Henry's fault that The Arse are going down :D*
yes it would like its ridsdales *cringes* fault that leeds were relegated!!!!
and now they SACK EDDIE GREY !!!
whats wrong at my club ?
AngryPaul
12-05-2004, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Dr S
whats wrong at my club ? Smith to United anyone?
Originally posted by AngryPaul
Smith to United anyone?
no i hope smith to the cheese bin (cheese bin meaning injured forever like our haaland stupid roy kean!!:twisted: )
elliekinz
12-05-2004, 06:46 PM
some of the fans are starting to turn against alan smith! last home game of the season, loads and loads of people waited for him to come and sign autographs and the bastard sneeked off!!!!
streety
12-05-2004, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by AngryPaul
Smith to United anyone?
Apparently he has said that he will never play for Man United. That was on Soccer am's Changing Rooms sketch.
I wouldn't mind him at liverpool but I don't think that we need him.
Originally posted by AngryPaul
Smith to United anyone?
He won't be that stupid. We'll .... erm ... I mean they'll skin him alive
elliekinz
13-05-2004, 05:45 PM
paul robinsons left the 1st of many!
Originally posted by elliekinz
paul robinsons left the 1st of many!
you can't tell me you expected him to stay, and he wouldn't be playing the Chelsea match anyway.
also Mills is off anyway on a Free aparently. I really wanted him to stay ... he said he would
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