General Football Thread [Archive] - Page 2

jonffm

02-05-2009, 10:33 PM

I like spurs way more since...

Yeah...untill that sentence ends with "they got relegated" i'm going to have to disagree with you :P Spurs are everything wrong with English football embodied in one club....bad football mixed with bad fans and the biggest delusion of grandure since...well....Newcastle :D But at least the Toon have an amazing set of fans and some legends that make them a likeable club...a likeable manager doesn't make up for it in my opinion.

Saying that they won me a few bob earlier. I find that betting on their mediocracy (the game to end in under 2 goals) is finacially sound :D

Mr stabby

02-05-2009, 10:37 PM

oh yeah also
i won my first coupon today.
wycombe let me down for a BIG win(like, no student loans for me type)
but i put a mini selection on and won 2.41 haha :)

West ham i also like more since zola took charge, but if they take more points off us I won't like them. and Stoke well done to them for staying up when we thought they'd be the ones to definately go down.

also major major major lols at Linekar, he just made a funny

Nuclear Spoon

02-05-2009, 10:50 PM

Anyone know when I can watch Barca v Real Madrid?

I am so pissed I missed this.

edit: Just watched. Barca should have scored loads more.

Flava Dave

03-05-2009, 04:44 PM

Eto'o to Liverpool wouldn't work. Liverpool play with Torres up front and Gerrard as the support striker. All three wouldn't play together and I can't see Benitez messing with the system since they're having their best season (in the league) for around 20 years.

Also, Harry Redknapp is a massive cunt. I have no idea where anyone gets the idea that he's a likeable guy. The constant public tapping up of players, the way he fucked over Portsmouth, and then Southampton, and then Portsmouth again, the bungs. The only reason he looks less bad is because his son is worse.

Mr stabby

03-05-2009, 04:51 PM

i put my winnings from yesterday on liverpool and rangers to win today

woop woop

also I'd have rather won 2-0 than Lucas score

Flava Dave

03-05-2009, 05:07 PM

Also, Carlos Tevez is the most overrated player in the premier league.

I don't post very often so I'm spouting my opinions off whenever they occur to me.

Bendtner > Tevez

[murray]

03-05-2009, 10:09 PM

Saying that they won me a few bob earlier. I find that betting on their mediocracy (the game to end in under 2 goals) is finacially sound :D

A mediocracy would be a form of government run by the media ¬_¬

[/grammar police]

A right winger is what we need, and Lennon is a good right winger. We don't need Tevez though.

Liverpool's problems are an abundance of cracking central midfielders. We have Masch, Gerrard and Xabi and we want to (rightly) play all of them, which raises issues as someone else has to be dropped to make way.

And Lucas is better than people give him credit for. He's played 3 times for Brazil for Christ's sake, he can't exactly be shit.

jonffm

04-05-2009, 12:41 AM

Bendtner > Tevez

Yeah, probably the biggest shite you've uttered this season, and that's saying something considering you actually predicted Arsenal would win the league.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Tevez is exceptional, I think he's good and would give us a different dimension....but there is no striker in the Premiership that is worse than Bendtner, and i'm including Emile Heskey in that. Bendtner's only purpose on a football pitch is to be the living embodiment of how far Arsenal have actually slipped down the pecking order.

Wenger will no doubt prove me right by offloading him ASAP along with Emmanuel "Shit, we could have gotten £30mill for him a year ago" Adebayor....I mean, that must be gutting watching him every week and thinking that could have been David Silva :\

Flava Dave

04-05-2009, 01:05 PM

We were never going to get Silva. And if we did are you implying he'd be playing up front instead of Adebayor?

The Bendtner thing was a joke you insufferable mong. Although Bendtner's 8 league goals are much worse than Tevez's 3. And how exactly would Tevez give you a different dimension? You already have Kuyt to do the hardworking-striker-on-the-wing bit, and he's been great this season.

jonffm

04-05-2009, 01:26 PM

I actually meant David Villa, my appologies :p Who Wenger DOES want and would have been able to afford if he knew when to cash his chips in. I mean, I wonder how much you'd actually get for him now? Especially since, barring a Liverpool-esque miracle and Arsenal winning to Champions League, it'll be another trophyless season and these players are going to start getting itchy feet.....frankly, I think Arsenals biggest targets in the summer if you DON'T win anything will keeping your own players and manager, who will no doubt have another set of tempting offers.

Tevez simply hasn't been utilised by United this season. He's been involved in alot of goals, and to be fair to him, NO United player has been setting the goalscoring charts alight this year. In all competitions, Tevez and Bendtner are seperated by one goal...and Tevez does a damn lot more than Bendtner does in any kind of build-up play.

As I said, everything i've said about him and Abe will be proved right in the summer when they're offloaded, so we'll just wait and see shall we? Or maybe he'll loan him back to Birmingham - more his kinda level to be honest.

Flava Dave

04-05-2009, 01:32 PM

Ronaldo's the top scorer. Tevez just runs around looking busy, he won't be at Man U next season because he's not worth the thirty-odd million it would cost to buy him.

Who's Abe? Adebayor may leave in the summer but Wenger'll keep Bendtner. Also, Birmingham are back in the premier league so he'd be at the same level.

And we'd never get Villa. Arsenal never had the 30-40 million necessary to buy him or the money to pay the wages for him. Also, he's said several times that he doesn't want to leave Spain. You need to stop believing the tabloid transfer news.

jonffm

04-05-2009, 01:39 PM

Ronaldos gone next season, and by his standards, we all know he's had an average season. Nobody in the Premiership has been banging in goals this season, I was sitting around in the pub discussing this last week, how there has been no stand-out striker this season at all. Midfielders are the faves to be the two top goalscorers for fucks sake.

And...are you saying Birmingham and Arsenal are on the same level? ;) I am aware Birmingham got promoted, that was my point, and I can actually see it happening..it's Wengers style to loan them out for a season, keep them for a season, and so forth. Not entirely sure how playing up front for a relegation battler is the same as playing for a CL team, though.

And Villa...you would have had the money if you sold Ade. That was the obvious transfer chain that would have occured, and if not him, then some other big star. Players say "I want to stay forever" all the time, I think it's you that needs to take such statements with a pinch of salt...pretty sure Ashley Cole said that....Wayne Rooney said that...I actually remember Torres said he wanted to stay in Spain too. It's a bargaining method, nothing more.

I do agree you'd find it difficult to lure him NOW, though, but last season you were off the back of a relativly good season where you were title challengers.

Mr stabby

04-05-2009, 07:50 PM

put my 3.51 winnings on villa to win tonight.

I'll turn this 25p into 100 quid if it kills me

jonffm

05-05-2009, 11:21 AM

Season might not be all bad for Newcastle...

Even if they're in the Chajmpionship next season, at least they probably won't ever have to see Joey Barton again. Shearer is spot on about him, and you could see how furious he was. Get rid of him, he's not worth the hassle...he's not even that good, average midfielder really. Probably got the worst attitude of any Premiership footballer....with a superiority complex to go with it.

Also, Shearer was a good sport, had a nice laugh at the chants of "You should have stayed on the telly".

Mr stabby

05-05-2009, 01:08 PM

woop I won 4.40 so far with this run of bets.

All on chelsea tonight?

jonffm

05-05-2009, 02:55 PM

Are you mad? They beat Real 6-2 AWAY on the weekend. Fuck that!

All on Man United to qualify :)

Mr stabby

05-05-2009, 02:56 PM

nah i want barca to go though, so if chelsea do pull it off, i get some moneys.

But maybe I shouldn't.

jonffm

05-05-2009, 02:58 PM

Thats one way of looking at it.

I reckon tonight the scores will be 2-0 Barca and 2-2 Arse-United

Mr stabby

05-05-2009, 08:25 PM

2 quid on man utd and chelsea to win

i still hope barca whoop chelsea

Porphyrogenitos

05-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Blinding, couldn't be much happier with that.

Fletchers sending off was very harsh, it's a shame that he won't be able to play the final as he has shown relatively good talent this season, but fortunately not a great loss.

Barca to win tomorrow and I have to say Barca for the cup, as much as I'd like to deny it. But United showed talent tonight, and I definitely don't think its beyond them. They showed solid defence, aggressive offence and a calculated, co-ordinated midfield. Could well be about the mental edge in 4 weeks time, so I can hope whoever wins tomorrow pushes the other to the end.

jonffm

06-05-2009, 09:00 PM

Watching Drogba throw all his toys our the pram = delicious.

Zackron Goldago

06-05-2009, 09:10 PM

I thought Barca were piss poor tonight; they got stuck on the ball at every opportunity. It's all well and good making lots of pretty little runs off it, but no one really drove at Chelsea with the ball still at their feet. Felt like Henry would have made that bit of difference in that respect, if he'd been fit. Not that it mattered in the end.

As a neutral, though, this is definitely the result I wanted to see, regardless of refereeing issues. Drogba really ought to be fuming at himself: he missed the best chance of the game.

Shave

06-05-2009, 09:14 PM

barca were pretty poor. however chelsea are a bunch of diving.... in all fairness they did have 2 good shouts for a penalty, but that sending off never was and there were several other instances where they went down far too easily. though it was interesting watching and i'm glad it's not the same final as last year. barca and man u are arguably the two best sides in the world atm

Zackron Goldago

06-05-2009, 09:19 PM

Yeh, poor refereeing definitely went both ways and this certainly makes for a cracking final.

jonffm

06-05-2009, 09:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlapSsiy_KI

Good ridance, I say. Also...something that seems to have been lost is that REALLY...even though the ref wasshocking, Chelsea caused their own downfall. They knew the risks of defending a 1-0 lead, but they just put men behind the ball...and that Essien 'clearance'? Sorry, but you make a mistake THAT bad at this level, and you get punished.

EDIT: Wow, things are getting worse for Chelsea....have you seen the abomination they're calling their home kit for next season? Massive lolz.

Dakano

07-05-2009, 02:22 PM

http://www.chelseamegastore.com/product_images/maxzoom/prd_maxzoom_cfc-59954.jpg
Is that a zipper down the front? looks more like a training top.

jonffm

07-05-2009, 05:44 PM

One of the worst home kits i've ever seen. Poor Lamps, he has to wear terrible kits for Chelsea and England.

Btw, with last night, Terry also infuriated me. After the game, preaching about how it's perfectly alright to talk to the ref like that if you reckon he's had a bad game. What a disgrace.

If action,and I mean PROPER action (not a measly fine), isn't taken against them, then the FA are making a mockery of their own Respect campaign.

Littleshore

08-05-2009, 01:46 AM

I didn't see the match myself, but all our press here at home talks about is the ref. I don't care, my two European favorite teams are in the final!

Nuclear Spoon

08-05-2009, 01:12 PM

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of twats.

Shave

08-05-2009, 01:23 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUziCx1mHxQ

i thought it was funny anyway :p

jonffm

09-05-2009, 09:26 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7KB9Z-69a8

Best chelsea vid ever

AngryPaul

12-05-2009, 11:32 AM

I only saw about 10 minutes of that game on Yankee TV. I saw three things...

1: Abidal sent-off because Anelka fell over his own feet.
2: Chelsea have A LOT of the ball but not score.
3: Ballack trying to wrestle the ref to the ground after this shot hit Eto'o on the shoulder.

Is that about right?

Shave

12-05-2009, 03:59 PM

4. At least 2 clear penalty shouts denied, but probably because chelsea made such a big deal out of the probably-not-penalty-shouts
5. drogba fall over when 1-on-1 and claim for a penalty
6. UEFA conspiracy

Nuclear Spoon

12-05-2009, 05:32 PM

Barcelona dominated possession. Chelsea neutralised them with anti-football.

[murray]

12-05-2009, 05:35 PM

Chelsea neutralised them with anti-football.

Rugby?

Smokey

12-05-2009, 08:07 PM

;2213497']
Barcelona dominated possession. Chelsea neutralised them with anti-football.
Rugby?

American Football.

Mr stabby

10-06-2009, 07:15 PM

i dont think JT is a cunt now, he was the only one you could hear singing the anthem just now
hes still a twat for chelsea though

Smokey

10-06-2009, 10:13 PM

It would've been 12-0 if Heskey had played. Fact.

AngryPaul

11-06-2009, 06:34 AM

It would have been 1-1 if I'd been in to watch it. FACKED.

streety

11-06-2009, 01:16 PM

Cheerio Ronaldo...

Nuclear Spoon

12-06-2009, 09:31 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/12/rob-styles-retires-early-referee

Thank fuck for that.

AngryPaul

12-06-2009, 12:36 PM

The fact that the majority of the football-watching public will merely shrug their shoulders in indifference at this news or say 'Good' proves the lack of understanding of the modern referee....Thank fuck for that.

AngryPaul

20-06-2009, 10:38 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8110740.stm

So Fergie will happily pay £30m and £100,000 on Berbatov, but not £25.5m on one the focal points of our attack.

Great...

Porphyrogenitos

20-06-2009, 11:18 AM

Well, the article says they were willing to pay but Tevez decided against it. We should never have let it go on this long though, it's a pisstake. Unless we sign some damned good replacements and get them integrated very fast, I'll be sceptical about the league next year.

AngryPaul

20-06-2009, 01:41 PM

Thats the thing. He was always willing to sign, but instead we bought Berbatov and draged him along for another season.

I think he's in the right to be a bit peeved, but also with Kia Picanto behind him, he was always going to be following the money, hence City and Chelsea seem to be the front-runners.

Glad Kia said he wouldn't go to Liverpool, but I'll never trust a word that man says.

jonffm

20-06-2009, 03:09 PM

I think the whole Berbatov thing - which make no mistake, has caused this situation, ranks way up there in Fergies greatest mistakes as United manager.

The second big blow is that, unlike Ron, he doesn't get a wad of cash to soften the blow. I don't think £80mill is worth it for losing your two best players. It's like Liverpool losing Gerrard and Torres.

Now Fergie should be getting rid of a few players that actually SHOULD go, like Anderson and Nani, and sign at LEAST two world class players and jst hope they can adapt to the Premiership bloody fast. Dunno how much milage you're going to get out of Giggs and Scholes this season, great players but they're really starting to get on abit...

I reckon he will sign from within ther Prem. Lost a fair whack of the spine of his team this summer, so I don't think he can afford to gamble on players that might take a while to settle into the Prem. Valencia is a certainty, but I don't know who he will go after to replace the lost depth up front.

AngryPaul

20-06-2009, 03:19 PM

There was rumours of David Silva around.

I'd quite like Ashley Young's name ot pop up a bit more.

jonffm

20-06-2009, 07:13 PM

Young would be a good signing.

The one thing with Tevez though - I really don't think money was a main reason. I think Tevez is the kind of player that needs to feel wanted, that needs that loyalty, and it never really came from SAF. When Masch came to Liverpool, we couldn't wait to make the deal to get him on the books, we recognised his talent and knew he was worth the cash. Imagine how Tevez felt seeing Liverpool, a team with less money than United, putting their money where their mouth is...while he was enjoying FANTASTIC performances on the pitch and getting nothing out of it.

I agree with SAF on selling Ron, but I really think United made a massive hash of the entire affair and have now nutured a brilliant Premiership talent for one of their rivals to snap up. Yes, his agent is a shit, but this could have been sorted out a long time ago if United wanted to. Now they're stuck with a far lesser striker in Berbatov.

Not to mention the fans, who treated him like a legend, must now feel extreamly let down by the management.

Mr stabby

20-06-2009, 09:36 PM

I think its amusing how he won't go to Liverpool cos we're rivals.

But Man City and Chelsea aren't :rolleyes:

Smokey

23-06-2009, 04:57 PM

And the award for most random transfer of the summer goes to Manchester City. Why on Earth have they signed Stuart Taylor?

jonffm

23-06-2009, 05:35 PM

Especialliy with Hart as their stand-in.

City are clearly resigned to building a squad full of average players.

Mr stabby

23-06-2009, 05:40 PM

Its cos Hart wants first team football, they can ship him out and Taylor is good enough to be a backup and willing to be one.

AngryPaul

24-06-2009, 09:06 AM

Taylor has always been a number two and is quite comfortable with it. Hart wants first-team football and rightly so, he was a revelation in goal for them and was on the verge of being an England player (regularly).

He deserves to move on and get some games, which he was never going to get with Given there.

Taylor will always be happy to be the backup guy, same as Harper was at Newcastle behind Given.

Both transfers are good moves for all involved I think.

now Mark Hughes just needs a way to play 18 strikers all at once and they'll be on their way...

nick3d

25-06-2009, 10:19 PM

Have you heard about Stoke????
They are interested in Paul Scholes as well as Micheal Owen
Yes im a stoke supporter.
I cant believe newcastle went down this season, that was so unexpected, but its good for stoke :)

Smokey

25-06-2009, 10:41 PM

I'm laughing at Michael Owen at the moment. Only clubs with confirmed interest so far are Hull and Stoke. Don't really think that'll be the move he's looking for. Maybe he can join Matt Derbyshire in Greece.

nick3d

25-06-2009, 10:47 PM

But Stoke...
Youve got to admit we are a good side, although we are crap away, but our home reputation is good enough,
I think it would be a good move for the guy, he would get plenty of goals from our famous rorey delap throw :P

Mr stabby

25-06-2009, 10:51 PM

I like Stoke, a lot better than teams like Sunderland.

Smokey

25-06-2009, 10:56 PM

Neither of those sides are going to give Owen the service he needs, especially Stoke. He really wouldn't fit in there since they're a physical, direct team. Can't see either of them splashing out on his wages even if he takes a pay cut down to about £50K pw.

nick3d

25-06-2009, 10:56 PM

What team/teams do you support Mr stabby??

E:
I must say, that we will be lucky if were too sign him and yeah but if he stays at newcastle he will have to take a pay cut, and if he stays as a free agent, then he will get naff all, better off having something than nothing... init

Mr stabby

25-06-2009, 11:01 PM

Oh Liverpool all the way.

I've had a soft spot for Stoke though, and did do for Pompey when Harry Redknapp was around (same for Sheff Utd when Neil Warnock was the gaffer)

nick3d

25-06-2009, 11:04 PM

I support stoke because i live in stoke and have lived here most of my life as well as i support Man City because i was born over there lol

streety

20-07-2009, 07:46 PM

Anyone seen Getafe's new shirt?

http://www.dirtytackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/getafe1.jpg
http://www.dirtytackle.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/getafe2.jpg

Genius piece of marketing.

Smokey

20-07-2009, 09:40 PM

I hope they don't get free food from the sponsor otherwise the end of the season will be like watching a team of Neville Southall's.

jonffm

21-07-2009, 10:40 AM

Brilliant...but...all jokes aside, that is one of the ugliest kits I have ever seen.

And i've seen Uniteds kit this year ;)

AngryPaul

21-07-2009, 10:50 AM

And i've seen Uniteds kit this year ;)I'm starting to like that...

AngryPaul

28-07-2009, 08:50 AM

Ibrahimovic = £40m + Eto'o + Hleb for a year

Surely that makes the deal at least £65m? I think that good ol' Zlatan is alright, but he's not worth that. His temperament lets him down really. He seems moody and uninterested most of the time, even if he's winning and scoring a hat-trick. He's capable of some magic moments, but hes not consistent enough.

I'm also surprised in Barca's insistence that Eto'o leave. He was quite happy, they won the treble and he was their top scorer, yet they still wanted rid of him. He is a consistent striker, 20 goals a season. Baffles me really.

I think Inter get the better deal, with the money and Hleb, although I'm not sure that Serie A will be a successful hunting ground for Eto'o.

AngryPaul

05-08-2009, 09:09 AM

Does anyone think that United losing Van der Sar for 8 weeks will be a crucial to this season?

Foster hasn't been great in pre-season, looking rather hopeless when goals have been conceeded against pretty weak opposition. I'm hoping he can pull it out of the hat and fulfill his potential as a future United number one.

jonffm

05-08-2009, 02:01 PM

I agree. I already said in the close season that United need a new keeper, because the backup simply isn't there...that'd be alright if Van Der Sar was abit younger, but he's getting on now...little niggles start creeping into your game.

Not to mention that I think United could do better than VDS ANYWAY. They should have snapped up Given - probably Citys best signing.

Also..

Alonso - thanks for the memories. :) Class player, but we can't turn down that kind of offer. I'm happy we got caught in Reals firing line of silly spending. Now we can go out and snap up a replacement, as well as some cash to POSSIBLY get us another striker. I reckon we still had a good 5-10mill to spend before this, now that should rise to 35-40. That Roma bloke should cost about £20 mill, leaving enough to buy a class striker?

Loved Alonso, but tbh, i'd started to favor Masch over him. So as long as we keep him..we can play with him in DM, replacement in the middle, gerrard pushing forward with Kuyt on the right, and Babel/Riera on the left.

Ooorr play Gerrard in the middle and use the lionshare to buy a world class striker to partner Torres. Either or.

Nuclear Spoon

15-08-2009, 07:46 PM

Yeah, so I am hoping that Villa's and Everton's form continues like it did today.

Would make Spurs' life easier.

Smokey

15-08-2009, 10:42 PM

Good day for me. Wonder what the odds were on an Ameobi hattrick.

How did Arsenal get so good over the summer?

AngryPaul

16-08-2009, 11:56 AM

Bristol City 1
Crystal Palace 0.5

Referees must hate Warnock sooo much :D

jonffm

16-08-2009, 02:19 PM

Sorry but, didn't City have a perfectly good goal ruled out too?

The only comment I8 have on Saturdays football is "Fuck off Warnock for fucking massive prick."

Did you see him at the end of the game? What an asshole. I wish bad things to every club Warnock managers, so Palace for relegation plz. :)

Nuclear Spoon

16-08-2009, 05:05 PM

Couldn't have asked for a better start :)

AngryPaul

16-08-2009, 05:15 PM

Did you see him at the end of the game? What an asshole.I saw him refusing to shake the hands of the players - it was hardly their fault referrees think he's an uber twat. (Just saw that his name is an anagram of 'Colin Wanker', heehee)

Also, 10 games. Not one draw. Wonder if thats ever happened before in the top flight on opening day/weekend?

[murray]

16-08-2009, 05:34 PM

Saw that coming a mile off. Didn't ever think we were going to beat Spurs.

streety

16-08-2009, 06:01 PM

;2261195']Saw that coming a mile off. Didn't ever think we were going to beat Spurs.
Me too. It was always going to be a tough first game of the season. Spurs are looing to improve on the poor start that they had last year and we have had a really bad pre-season.

It lkooked like we missed Alonso today. There was noone there to dictate the pace of the game for us. Can't wait for Aquaman to get fit and playing.

Still think that we will finish second... :/

Smokey

16-08-2009, 06:39 PM

Why wasn't there any fuss around Bassong not being suspended? It seemed clear to me that he hadn't served the second match of his ban since he was registered to Spurs when he supposedly was suspended for Newcastle vs WBA.Can't believe Liverpool didn't kick up a fuss.

Nuclear Spoon

16-08-2009, 06:45 PM

Spurs made a public announcement that Bassong was eligible to play quite a while ago.

The relevant authorities had more than enough time to tell us if this wasn't the case so I'm pretty sure we're clean.

Smokey

16-08-2009, 10:26 PM

Yeah, but that's just it. It seemed obvious to me that he should be suspended but the FA failed to release a statement. I'm guessing Spurs made some very impressive arguments to the FA who agreed before Spurs came out and said he was able to play. Still would expect the FA to actually say something.

Mr stabby

17-08-2009, 01:23 PM

pfft we were shit without alonso.

and babel was shit. Benayoun did much better once he was on.

and lucas was shit. but he always will be

and voronin was shit but he needs to be sold because argh hes shit i hate voronin

[murray]

17-08-2009, 04:18 PM

Babel was disappointing yes, but Lucas did an OK job, and Voronin actually had a go at worrying the defense, and also he had a cracking record at Hertha so he can't be that bad.

Mr stabby

17-08-2009, 04:26 PM

Apart from one or two games in the first season (Tolouse and Sunderland spring to mind) Voronin did a very poor job in the first season. All he does is run into defenders and try to bounce them off him with his big belly.

AngryPaul

19-08-2009, 08:50 PM

Well thats just stupid. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8202360.stm)

Dr S

19-08-2009, 08:52 PM

Well thats just stupid. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8202360.stm)

I am so happy now its stupid. And I don't even support Burnley

Smokey

19-08-2009, 09:20 PM

Lol. Burnley.

Also, Shola does it again. If Newcastle still had Chopra we'd dominate this league.

jonffm

19-08-2009, 09:52 PM

Oh dear United...oh dear. I thought Liverpool were worrying with our lack of creativity, but that seemed to have just been a blip in the first game...United just looked poor. Sorely missing Ronaldo.

As for 'Pool, we still need this new bloke in ASAP, so I hope he recovers. Just need that extra something.

But...

How fucking good has Glen Johnson been? Been extreamly impressed by him in these first two games...and he's clearly an extra goalscoring outlet we didn't have before. If he can play like this consistantly, we'll cause any team to have nightmares. Quick, skillfull, has a shot on him, and his crossing is impecable.

Might end up being on a par with the Alonso and Torres transfers.

MOTD EDIT: What a strike from Blake :D

AngryPaul

20-08-2009, 08:18 AM

Well, Foster's looking good...

I've not seen the highlights, but the reports and audio clips on the radio seem to be full of praise for Burnley and the atmosphere at Turf Moor. Seems like they played well and the fans played their part.

I'd like to say "its only one game, 36 more to go" but this was something I was worried about all summer. United are weaker upfront and that was where all United's threat came from (defensive record wasn't all that good after the record run - Chelsea were more consistent), so the loss of two world-class players and no replacements was always going to be detrimental to the results this season.

With Ronaldo and Tevez, United were able to switch from Plan A's 4-3-3 to Plan B's 4-4-2 and so forth, but without them 4-4-2 is really the only option.

As McNumpty saqys on BBC Football's website: "Some experts believe Ronaldo's greatest strength was his ability to punish the lesser teams as they tired - and with all respect to Burnley they would fall into that category - but the tension here came from counting down the clock as opposed to any serious supremacy from United."

Fergie is a fool if he thinks this is a complete squad. I'll be happy for him to prove me wrong, but for now it looks like United need a 'big' signing.

Smokey

20-08-2009, 10:36 PM

Didn't Glazier promise to give Fergie that £80 million to spend? What a surprise he was lying.

jonffm

20-08-2009, 11:02 PM

United won't win the league like this, they NEED another signing. That said, perhaps Liverpool may do, too.

Side note - won £50 on a accumilator tonight, woot!

mrsnuffles

21-08-2009, 04:37 AM

man u do not need ronaldo to beat burnley. they do need owen to stop missing sitters though (hahahahaha). drawing any sort of meaningful conclusion from the results of the first couple of games is impossible - which everyone clearly realises because i dont see anything about arsenal's prospects here...

jonffm

21-08-2009, 10:59 AM

I agree it'd be foolish to write United off, but...really, they won so many games last year by brining on a late striker sub, because they had someone as good as Tevez on the bench....or Ronaldo would relentlessly wear them down and/or score an insane free kick.

They don't have those options anymore. Without them, United wouldn't have won the league last year.

I'm worried as a Liverpool fan, but I think United fans should be equally as worried. They were far from convincing against Birmingham, and Burley simply deserved to win...and those are the two weakest teams in the Premiership.

Smokey

24-08-2009, 08:58 PM

I'd just like to express my sympathies to the Davenport family. Hopefully Calum and his mother will make a recovery. It'd be tragic to see a player's career ended in such a way especially with another 10 years or so ahead of him.

jonffm

28-08-2009, 08:07 PM

I see UEFA are being cunts as usuall.

Finally they decide to start cracking down and...oh, surprise surprise, it's an English club that get's singled out for a witch-hunt.

Oh well. Let's all just be happy thinking about their faces when the CL group stage was drawn giving all four english teams a reletivly straight-forward passage to the next round. They must have been mortified :)

Nuclear Spoon

30-08-2009, 11:11 AM

hey so modric broke his leg and is now out for 3 months

fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu

jonffm

30-08-2009, 01:20 PM

You know when people say that something ALWAYS goes wrong when things are actually starting to look good for Spurs?

..... Yeah.

Nuclear Spoon

31-08-2009, 10:31 AM

Could be worse I guess. This could have happened to him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP5BSgIQ1Qo&feature=player_embedded

Shave

31-08-2009, 12:20 PM

ouch :(

Mr stabby

31-08-2009, 12:24 PM

i always sign that guy on fm.

poor guy :(

AngryPaul

20-09-2009, 12:13 PM

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

20-09-2009, 12:58 PM

Does anyone else see Liverpool's complaining of 'he hit it twice' for the West Ham penalty as an actual legitimate claim?

http://www.footytube.com/video/west-ham-united-liverpool-sep19-23148

I know the rules state you can't hit a penalty twice, but surely his foot being in the way counts as a deflection?

It would have been overly harsh if it had been given. Liverpool can't talk shit about penalty controversy anyway, I still remember THAT Gerrard dive against some Spanish club in the CL last year.

ynnekkenny

20-09-2009, 01:20 PM

I still remember THAT Gerrard dive against some Spanish club in the CL last year.

sounds like you remember it well!

haha

AngryPaul

20-09-2009, 03:04 PM

I actualy don't rememeber that.

Mr stabby

20-09-2009, 04:53 PM

Mikey just hates Liverpool, there was no dive.

AngryPaul

22-09-2009, 03:51 PM

I've only just noticed the edit on the font post

megalolz

piemastermike

22-09-2009, 10:45 PM

I got tickets to the robson memorial at ipswich, look out for me on the tv bawling my eyes out.

Nuclear Spoon

23-09-2009, 11:03 PM

For a clumsy fuck, Crouch never fails to amaze me.

AngryPaul

24-09-2009, 07:17 AM

Wellbeck always seems to impress me. Unless he's played on the left-wing in an FA Cup Semi Final...

Great results for Spurs and Everton last night, quite comprehensive against opposition who could cause you a scare on a cup night. Chelsea once again did what they always do in domestic cup competitions - squeak through an easy home tie.

AngryPaul

05-10-2009, 08:43 AM

So Liverpool have already lost more games then they did in the whole of last season?

Mind you, United just drew at home to Sunderland. Thats what Fergie gets for sticking with Foster, and playing a 'weakened' team (e.g. Welbeck, not starting Anderson or Carrick, playing Nani instead of the in-form Giggs). Dissapointed he started bitching abut the amount of time added on AGAIN. You've just stopped getting yelled at for the Manchester derby, don't bring it up again.

Oh, and lol, he thought the ref was unfit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8289089.stm).

Smokey

05-10-2009, 10:04 PM

As good as a manager Sir Alex is he should learn to be gracious in defeat. Also, typical he replaces Giggs with Nani just as I do the opposite in fantasy football.

prodigy69

18-10-2009, 12:15 PM

Got to hand it to Rafael Benitez' decision to back his defender after the blunder at the weekend..he's all set for the Lyon game

http://www.b3tards.com/u/0bb7ac49b9769052ddb6/rapharedball.jpg

Smokey

18-10-2009, 09:59 PM

Those rare incidents like that one with the beach ball are the main reasons to watch football. Always funny to see another team get completely screwed over. It's even worth Sunderland picking up a win because of it.

Apparently though, the laws of the game say that the goal should have been disallowed.

Mr stabby

18-10-2009, 10:01 PM

aye it should have but we didn't deserve to win anyway so I'm not gonna whine about it

Smokey

27-10-2009, 10:55 PM

Well not a good day for Newcastle today. Ashley has decided to keep hold of the club, Chris Hughton has been named as permanent manager for 2 years and Kishanishvili's appeal against a three match ban has been turned down.

How is this (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/8316456.stm)deserving of a three match ban? (Approx 55 seconds)

Finally it seems as though the fat man is going to look for a sponsor for the stadium. I'll be dammed if I'll refer to it as Coca Cola Park or the Sports Direct Stadium. Don't think that'll be a popular move even if it's an easy way to raise a bit of cash.

AngryPaul

28-10-2009, 12:01 PM

Smokey

29-10-2009, 11:45 PM

He really just needs to stick with it. It can't be good for the value of the club to be on-off-on-off the market all the time and its really detrimental to the team.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were up for sale again by the end of December, going into the Jan transfer window....

Nah, he'll wait until the end of the transfer window so he has time to sell of the remaining good players. Then he'll sell the club once he's sold off all the assets.