The Scottish Football Thread [warning - contains Old Firm] [Archive]

Dingbat

07-05-2004, 07:32 PM

OK, this may turn into a thread full of vile, filthy bigotry, but I don't think that Cap'n Zola will be on for a while. ;) Only joking. This is the thread for any supporters of Scottish football, such as myself, a lifelong Rangers supporter, Twig, a lifelong Celtic fan, and others. Anti -Scottish Football posts will not be tolerated and a flaming license will immediately be issued.

So - Who will win the Old Firm Derby? Will Inverness or Clyde be promoted? Who will be penalised next year for going into/being in administration? What about the Hibs job? Who will get the Scottish Cup? And will McLeish or O'Neill leave/be sacked first?

And of course, we all know the season is ending soon, but what about all the transfer gossip? Will Nacho Novo quit the Dees for the Gers? Will David Fernandez return to Celtic or stay on at Livvy? Where will Stevie Crawford go? And what will happen to Livingston's other players?

Then there's the biggest question of them all - what about the National Team?

Hours of fun to be had here

Cap'n Zola

08-05-2004, 01:14 AM

Wow! Nice thread [bar the snide comments about me]!

Hmm....I reckon first to be discussed is the Old Firm, seeing as it is this afternoon! Doubt anyone else will be in for a while but Celtic will pwn anyway!

Rangers have defence problems, problems keeping possesion, problems attacking and problems in goals :rolleyes:

They have no squad depth either.

Oh and £70,000,000 debt. Let's just change this to the "Everything wrong with Rangers Thread" :p Only kidding!

Celtic will dominate and that's not my biased side talking!

Interesting topic to discuss will be transfers, especially with Old Firm with Larsson leaving Celtic and Rangers trying to get even more players despite all their debts.

Dingbat

08-05-2004, 03:16 PM

Bah. Cheats.

Celtic 1 (Sutton 89) Rangers 0

Sutton blatantly pushed Frank de Boer over as he was going for goal!

Admittedly they had more possession, but we didn't play so badly and Thompson could have scored. I had to laugh at Larsson missing that open goal though :p

Cap'n Zola

08-05-2004, 04:06 PM

I was always in the bag. S'why I watched the Chelsea - Man U game :D

We were winning for 70 minutes of the game. :/

Very good game. My dad told me that Sutton scored in last minute, I knew we'd win :cool:

Does anyone know any confirmations on who the Old Firm are buying? Like Francis Jeffers (and his bro), etc. have all been linked to the clubs but does anyone know any transfers for definite?

Dingbat

08-05-2004, 04:47 PM

£275,000 - Nacho Novo - Dundee to Rangers
£0 - Alex Rae - Wolverhampton Wanderers to Rangers
£0 - Jean-Alain Boumsong - Auxerre to Rangers
£0 - Marvin Andrews - Livingston to Rangers

You're supposed to be getting Rivaldo, as are we Dado Prso.

Cap'n Zola

08-05-2004, 04:52 PM

Well Rangers are going to have even more debt added then...

Rivaldo and Prso? Heh. I somehow doubt that they'd come up here. Why would anyone come up here to play football? Especially someone like Rivaldo!

Dingbat

08-05-2004, 11:32 PM

Celtic are reportedly going to forego cutting their wage bill when Larsson leaves, and offer Rivaldo £40,000 a week.

Silly move methinks.

Dingbat

09-05-2004, 08:00 PM

Originally posted by Cap'n Zola
Rivaldo and Prso? Heh. I somehow doubt that they'd come up here.

look at that...
Prso signs for Rangers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/3693503.stm ).

And just for some more fun...
Rivaldo going to Bolton (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3697999.stm)

BlueberryMuffin

10-05-2004, 08:40 AM

errr, i don't know much about scottish football, but i'd like your thoughts on craig moore

Dingbat

12-05-2004, 06:49 AM

He's an idiot. Not even a very good player these days, but he is the Rangers captain and shouldn't be going around saying things like that.

Hopefully we'll keep Frank de Boer on now as captain if we do sell Moore - but time will tell.

Cap'n Zola

12-05-2004, 08:46 AM

Celtic are supposed to be after Amoroso now.

AngryPaul

12-05-2004, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by Cap'n Zola
Celtic are supposed to be after Amoroso now. I doubt that happening

Would you want him? Do you need him?

Maybe it could be a "he left for better football, look where he ended up" to Rangers?

i love donkey

12-05-2004, 08:50 AM

not the Amoruso from Rangers
i think its this brazilian guy...from...brazil?

anyway
C'MON THE HOOPS

AngryPaul

12-05-2004, 08:55 AM

Originally posted by i love donkey
not the Amoruso from Rangers
i think its this brazilian guy...from...brazil?Woops :o

Ah well, I also heard he was off to Rangers.

I think that now Celtic have done well in europe enough to lure a world-class talent to replace Larson ;)

What news on Rivaldo? I'd pick Celtic over Bolton anyday :eek:

i love donkey

12-05-2004, 09:19 AM

i've been told celtic are going for haselbaink(sp?)
he'll be getting at least £40,000 a week, a £20,000 decrease of what he's getting from chelsea, doubt he'll go..

Dingbat

12-05-2004, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by i love donkey
i've been told celtic are going for haselbaink(sp?)
he'll be getting at least £40,000 a week, a £20,000 decrease of what he's getting from chelsea, doubt he'll go..

Rubbish.

You'll get the fantastic *cough* Franny Jeffers :p

Cap'n Zola

12-05-2004, 04:00 PM

All our targets have been rumoured to be getting £40,000 a week. :)

Hasselbaink, Rivaldo, Amoroso (From Dortmund, not Blackburn!) and Francis Jeffers and his brother have all been rumoured to come.

Hasselbaink just won't. Rivaldo wants Premiership football but Amoroso may very well and the Jeffers will definitely be here :cool:

i love donkey

12-05-2004, 04:11 PM

omg, ricksen, how much of a pussy is he?
he can dish out all the fightin n shit but when he gets it back at him hes all moany. boo fuckin hoo

Dingbat

12-05-2004, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by i love donkey
omg, ricksen, how much of a pussy is he?
he can dish out all the fightin n shit but when he gets it back at him hes all moany. boo fuckin hoo

And so begins an attempt at an Old Firm argument. :rolleyes:

Ricksen has been warned by McLeish not to do that kind of stuff any more, hence the reason he reported Thompson instead of punching him and getting sent off.

i love donkey

12-05-2004, 07:09 PM

I wont get into all the old firm arguments..lol

ok, predictions for the Rangers and Hearts game

Rangers 2-1 Hearts

Dingbat

16-05-2004, 01:17 AM

SPL ends tomorrow, so I'd like to know - what will the scores be?

Also, Inverness Caledonian Thistle won the SD1 - Will they get into the SPL? Is driving 60 miles to Aberdeen too far for their fans to go to see them play the likes of Livingston and Motherwell?

And just where will Henrik Larsson go?

Scottish football talk...

dr. derrice

16-05-2004, 02:44 PM

are celtic getting too old??
with larsson leaving and many others heading to the autumns of their careers, could we see a slump in celtic, maybe not in the spl but in europe, or will the newcomers like marshall prove good for both celtic and scotland, who, of late haven;t been doing great intenationally, and also, it was a big mistake losing miller to Manchester United, they will have to be careful not to bollocks it up like that again.
bye bye henrik

Dingbat

16-05-2004, 04:04 PM

No need for a double post.

YES! He's almost gone! w00t!

i love donkey

16-05-2004, 04:13 PM

larsson is the king of kings!!!

Dingbat

18-05-2004, 02:27 PM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/3724057.stm

'Rangers today completed the signing of 34-year old Wolves midfielder Alex Rae on a two-year deal. The club also released Brazilian midfielder Emerson, who accepted a contract buyout sum.'

The underlined bit is what I don't like. One year would have been fine, but we don't want a 36 year old midfielder at the club, no matter how good he's been this season. Maybe he could take a less hands-on role, perhaps helping with the youth team a la John Brown after his retirement, but anything other than that would be stupid.

Dingbat

22-05-2004, 04:14 PM

Rumour has it that there was another cup final win today, besides ManYoo.

Does anyone care about that? :p

dr. derrice

22-05-2004, 05:23 PM

Larsson gets two on his last game; who else but he

i love donkey

23-05-2004, 01:00 AM

HENKY BHOY!!!!

Dingbat

05-07-2004, 02:11 PM

Yes, that's right - I just bumped a two-month old thread!

But I have a reason: What I am doing here adds to the thread - and the thread therefore is bumpable...

The new season is starting to shape up, and transfers galore are taking place.

Latest news:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/3856045.stm

Rangers have had an offer of £450,000 accepted by Dundee for Nacho Novo, allowing the player to discuss personal terms with the Ibrox club.

So, let's look at summer signings from the Old Firm:

Rangers:
Gone:

Capucho
Emerson
Nerlinger
De Boer twins
Mols
Arteta
Berg

Joined:

Prso
Boumsong
Mladenovic
Novo
Stewart
A. Rae

So pretty much everybody who's left has been replaced.

Celtic

Gone:

Miller
Larsson
Mjallby

Joined:

Lensky

A lot less transfers, but the people there are a lot more influential.

Being a neutral instead of a Gers fan for the moment, it looks like a very even title race next year - Rangers' new side will have to adapt to playing with each other, whilst Celtic will have to overcome the loss of Henrik Larsson and to a lesser extent Miller and Mjallby.

As a Gers fan though, I'm optimistic :D

Come on then - Scots everywhere! Football fans in general!

Who's gonna win the league?

dogincognito

05-07-2004, 02:17 PM

Hearts....

or maybe not. I think Rangers, the replacements that have been talked about for Larsson havent really impressed me, cept mabe Hasselbaink, looks like Novo is going to Rangers, how many did he score this season? him and Prso should do well :D

Oh and Boumsong looks a very good player to :cool:

Leonidas

07-07-2004, 07:48 PM

Who is Lensky? ANd as far as Rngers are concerned. I think Prso is a fantastic signing, but Boumsong worries me in that he might turn out to be another Basle Boli. There is no doubting he is at Rangers for the money. Alex Rae will run and run, and score some goals too, but he's hardly long term is he? And Novo I think will be a wee star. I'm chuffed at that siging. Nearly as chuffed as I am about Emerson and Capucho leaving. Though it looks like Moore might be finished at Rangers, and that Ball is on his way out, as if he plays another game for Rangers then they have to pay Everton something like £600,000!!!

And as for Celtic, I think they are showing a real lack of ambition. They could've had Amoruso who is a fantastic player, but just wouldn't commit. Now it looks like they will lose him to Fulham. They are really going to miss Larsson next season and can't rely on Sutton and Hartson to score as many.

Dingbat

07-07-2004, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by Leonidas
Who is Lensky?

15 year old starlet :p

Originally posted by Leonidas
And as for Celtic, I think they are showing a real lack of ambition. They could've had Amoruso who is a fantastic player, but just wouldn't commit..

I'm guessing you mean Amoroso of Dortmund. Yes, a rather bad move.

dogincognito

07-07-2004, 08:48 PM

I've heard rumours that Celtic want Danny Murphy... anyone else heard this? i think he'd be a good signing, hes an intelligent player although not the most natural athlete, but this might not be as important in the less competitive SPL (don't hurt me), also people shouldnt forget this time last year he was an England player :shock:

Dingbat

12-07-2004, 11:40 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/r/rangers/3877135.stm

Defender Craig Moore has been stripped of the Rangers captaincy and put on the transfer list.

Good riddance I say. Not because of the Olympic thing - I suspect that's just an excuse - but Moore has been sub par all season, as was proved whenever Frank de Boer and Henning Berg teamed up. Any thoughts?

Leonidas

02-08-2004, 07:23 PM

Looks like Moore might be on his way to Blackburn. Is Souness building a mini Rangers down there or something? He will have our last 3 captains!!! I am a bit sad to see him go, but if he's not going to give 100% then I don't want him there. And I'm also confused. What the fcuk are Aberdeen doing with a nike strip??? They aren't allowed a nike strip, or anything that might be deemed trendy or fashionable. They should stick to umbro, or le coq sportif, and stay away from nike, adidas, and puma, and let the natural order of things to return.

donkeysaurus

10-08-2004, 12:20 AM

G'wan the hibees :D Supporting Celtic was getting a bit repetitive, ya know, no drama, so i swapped and am now a hibees fan :D

Dingbat

11-08-2004, 04:09 PM

G'wan the hibees :D Supporting Celtic was getting a bit repetitive, ya know, no drama, so i swapped and am now a hibees fan :D
Good lass ;)

jif-charge

11-08-2004, 04:27 PM

I'm fed up with Rangers and Celtic getting the credit, well they do win all the tropheys etc. But what I'm trying to say is what about the other teams in the premier division? I think whoever comes 3rd this season should get given more credit, because lets face it the two teams will take the top spots.
Also, who do you think will be promoted to the Premier league at the end of the season? I'll go with Airdre Utd. O.k you can mock me now!

donkeysaurus

11-08-2004, 05:36 PM

Good lad ;)

I'm a girl
:p

Dingbat

11-08-2004, 05:54 PM

I'm a girl
:p
I didn't say that :ninja:

donkeysaurus

26-08-2004, 12:04 AM

Celtic trying to sign Inter Milan midfielder Sabri Lamouchi? Anyone know anything?

Dingbat

26-08-2004, 12:14 AM

Celtic trying to sign Inter Milan midfielder Sabri Lamouchi? Anyone know anything?
Not heard it, but they've signed Juninho now.

Rangers are in the UEFA Cup...again :(

donkeysaurus

26-08-2004, 12:25 AM

Yeah I seen that, this quote made me laugh

"I'm not here to replace Henrik Larsson or be compared to him," said Juninho. (BBC News)

Of course your not little man *pats ya on the head*

Dingbat

08-09-2004, 09:32 PM

basstard

09-09-2004, 04:25 PM

Scotland 0-0 Slovenia

Not a good result as far as I'm concerned. These are the games we'll be looking back on in four or five months' time and saying, "Wish we'd done better in that one..." :(

Thoughts, anyone?

Methinks we were lucky to get that.

I'm happy with a draw, ask me how I thought that game'd go a fortnight ago and I'd happily predict doom and gloom. The Spain game was a boost, and this was just icing on the cake - we didn't lose! :barry:

As Scotland go [especially recently], I think it's a good start to the qualifyings. Roll on Moldova.

Dingbat

09-10-2004, 03:09 PM

Scotland 0-0 Norway

Team: C Gordon, G Caldwell, G Naysmith, R Anderson, A Webster, D Fletcher, B Ferguson, R Hughes, G Holt, J McFadden, P Dickov.

Half-time: Scotland are playing OK...Richard Hughes had a shot which went about 55% over the line, but it didn't count as a goal. Paul Dickov has been booked and will miss the Moldova game, but Steven Thompson or Kenny Miller can replace him for that. We need to define what role Gary Holt is actually going to play in the second half. We're by no means out of it and can win this; even though Berti Vogts has been sent to the stands. Full-time report to come.

Cap'n Zola

09-10-2004, 03:38 PM

We're down 1-0 by the way :(

Dingbat

09-10-2004, 04:17 PM

Scotland 0-1 Norway
[SCO] McFadden s/o 53
[NOR] Iversen pen. 54

Team: C Gordon, G Caldwell, G Naysmith, R Anderson, A Webster, D Fletcher, B Ferguson, R Hughes (Pearson 62), G Holt (Thompson 69), J McFadden (s/o 53), P Dickov (Miller 74).

Full-time: Once again it's a case of our inability to attack. McFadden's sending-off was fair, but nobody could really fault him. Gordon was the one who was really at fault for the goal. Looks like we'll have Thompson and perhaps Miller up front against Moldova. But to be perfectly honest, I can't see this qualifying campaign going anywhere. I'm already writing off our chances.

It's another failure in Scotland's history. :(

basstard

13-10-2004, 08:34 PM

Scotland - 1 - 1 - Moldova
[Moldova] Dadu, 28
[Scotland] Thompson, 31

Meh, not good. Methinks Berti is on the first aeroplane out of Scotland soon, not that we're going to be getting better anytime soon.

The players, admittedly, did their best in a difficult situation - the fact the pitch wasn't flat didn't help - but in the end, not good enough. Mr Berti, meet Mr P45.

Tony Hawks [www.tony-hawks.com , and no, he's not the skateboarder] wrote a book entitled "Playing Tennis With the Moldovans" in which he played every member of the Moldovan footbal team that lost to England 4-0 in 2000 at tennis [and won]. According to the Herald, it made a mockery of Moldova's soccer-playing skill. Maybe he should write a sequel, "Playing golf with the Scots". We suck just as bad.

Dingbat

13-10-2004, 08:42 PM

Scotland 1-1 Moldova
[MOL] Dadu 28
[SCO] Thompson 31

Team: C Gordon, G Caldwell, S Caldwell, A Webster, G Naysmith (I Murray 45), C Cameron, D Fletcher (K Miller 65), B Ferguson, G Holt, S Thompson (L McCulloch 81), S Crawford.

Full-time: Poor. Absolutely shocking in fact. We were made to look second best against a team who by all rights should be the worst in the group. Injuries are no excuse, we still had a team good enough to beat them.

It's time for Berti to gang awa' hame, methinks.

jif-charge

13-10-2004, 09:06 PM

did scotland have to win tonight to go through?

basstard

13-10-2004, 09:54 PM

did scotland have to win tonight to go through?

I'm not sure, if they win every game from now to the end of the qualifiers they might squeeze through, but that's not going to happen.

They're pretty much out of the competition, tbh.

jif-charge

18-10-2004, 09:28 PM

Think about it, if Scotland miracously(sp) manage to get to the world cup, its just another excuse to call them a rubbish team, lets face it what chance do they have if they struggle to qualify?

Dingbat

18-10-2004, 10:49 PM

Think about it, if Scotland miracously(sp) manage to get to the world cup, its just another excuse to call them a rubbish team, lets face it what chance do they have if they struggle to qualify?
Considering we haven't qualified for a tournament in six years; it would be eight if we got to the next World Cup; it'd be some acheivement in itself.

basstard

21-10-2004, 09:10 PM

Think about it, if Scotland miracously(sp) manage to get to the world cup, its just another excuse to call them a rubbish team, lets face it what chance do they have if they struggle to qualify?

It's not just the getting-to-the-finals-and-losing that counts. For a start, the world footballing body give out money to those countries that qualify. Plus, there would be muchos money in it for Scotland - from sponsorships, tickets, merchandise and so on.

Plus, we've not been great in the past 6 years - qualifying for this would show our country we CAN still get our s*** together on the international stage. We can still, when push comes to shove, play well enough to qualify for this. National pride that's been hugely dented is at stake.

And more - if we continue losing we're doing many things. One, providing ammunition for English people who believe we should have the one joint-UK team ["wouldn't the Scots like to have some people in a team that win now and then?"] a la Olympics. Two, as Scots lose faith they support other teams - england being the closest. Personally, the Auld Rivalry is fun and I like to see England lose [go ahead, minus me - but it's all fun, I don't throw rocks at cars if england win:p]. We held our own against Brazil, for crying out loud, in the opening game of the 1998 world cup [until we scored an own goal:p]

I'm not going to blame the decline on Berti, or whatever [because truth be told I couldn't do it better myself:p] but Scotland need to do better, and fast. The players aren't the problem - we've got quality up front in Fletcher and McFadden, we've got quality in goal in Marshall, so where does it go wrong? Increased training, increased cash incentives if we win?:p

Well, if that's one of Scotland's major pastimes [football] scuppered, I'll just have to go resort to another right now. Drinking. :p

apple pie

23-10-2004, 09:19 PM

Berti has only done one good thing for scotland look for new talent.In a few years we will have a ok team once again and hopefully start winning.
But until then were goin to have to get used to being disapointed in our team

Dingbat

27-10-2004, 09:08 AM

You see; they want Walter Smith for the job.

Now I'm a Rangers fan and a better club manager than Walter Smith you could not wish for, but he won't do much to change our current situation; he may be a better manager as far as communication and tactics go than Berti, but not much else will change.

This is why I feel Gordon Strachan would be a better choice, for the same reason the English FA never made Brian Clough the England manager; Strachan would grab Scottish football by the metaphorical bollocks and shake it up until we had a good enough setup to start and compete again.

It's what Scottish football needs right now.

Dingbat

10-11-2004, 11:20 PM

So the first of the Old Firm double header is complete - Rangers are through to the semifinals of the CIS Cup, beating Celtic 2-1 after extra time. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_div_1/3992421.stm)

Could we see a shift in power perhaps? There's the league game coming up soon, and that will be very telling.

We must wait and see.

Cap'n Zola

11-11-2004, 09:39 AM

concentrating on the league ¬_¬

why else would we not be kicking ass in champions league and domestic cups?

...:(

Dingbat

18-11-2004, 07:36 PM

Not saying last night was his fault....but PLEASE do not let Tommy Burns get the Scotland job, the guy is quite clearly biased towards Celtic. Why else would Stephen Pearson, who hasn't started once for Celtic this year, have been starting last night?

Youlikeyams?

18-11-2004, 07:58 PM

About the national team for a sec:

I personally think Walter Smith is perfect for the job, think about when he managed Rangers!

But the thing is, I don't think Berti understood how we play 'ball compared to the Germans. If we plonked Walter in charge of Germany, there would be the same story as there was with Berti in Scotland.

(err...shite theory I know, but I'm not much of a football lover)

Dingbat

19-11-2004, 10:45 PM

So, come on then?

Big league game tomorrow. Rangers VS Celtic at Ibrox.

Score predictions, anyone?

Youlikeyams?

19-11-2004, 10:47 PM

I feel a draw coming on maybe.

I'll just say that to avoid getting barraged with beer bottles of angry Rangers/Celtic fans.

dogincognito

19-11-2004, 10:47 PM

2-0 Rangers :D

I hope Walter Smith gets the Scotland job... :ninja:

Sugar Ray

20-11-2004, 01:09 AM

I'm hoping for a Rangers win. I will say 2-1.

pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease.

LavaMonkey

20-11-2004, 02:07 AM

I would say Dunfermline 1-3 Kilmarnock

Go Killie!

Dingbat

20-11-2004, 08:43 AM

I'll agree with Sugar Ray.

Up the Gers!

Youlikeyams?

20-11-2004, 11:26 AM

Pah, I'm not one to be biased.

*notices crowd walking off*

Fine...*follows the crowd*

2-0 to Gers...:ninja:

cherry pie

20-11-2004, 11:29 AM

Yes i'd have to agree with suger ray aswell c'mon the Gers

Sugar Ray

20-11-2004, 01:27 PM

Half Time: 2-0. \o/ Rangers players need to calm down. Referees like to even the odds, and Clark will be looking to send one of ours off. Novo and Rae both need to calm.

Lovenkrans made the most of Thompsons head butt, but it was still a head butt. You can't head butt another player, so he and the Celtic fans can have no complaints. Camara should also be off the field. Not only did he raise his hands to Rae, he also kicked out at Vignal after the tackle, and caught him on the knee. The referee and the linesman both saw, but were too scared to send a second celtic player off.

Full Time: 2-0 But of a dull second half, though how Lennon stayed on the feild I have no idea. But despite that, a 2-0 victory, and I feel a deserved victory, and I'm happy. :)

dogincognito

20-11-2004, 06:42 PM

2-0 Rangers :D

:)

Makes for a much more interesting SPL.

dogincognito

30-11-2004, 12:26 AM

hmmm, odd the lack of posts in here considering Scottish teams had a very succesful week in Europe and with Rangers going top for the first time in more than a year...

Virgo Called Up By Scots
By Paul Camillin

Adam Virgo has been called up to Scotland's 'Future Squad' to face Germany in Mannheim next week.

The 21-year-old, who qualifies via a grandparent, will travel with the squad for the opening tie of the 2005 Future Cup - a friendly competition that provides a platform for entering nations to develop international talent.

Virgo has been named as a defender in the squad, although for the majority of the season with Albion he has been employed as a makeshift centre-forward.

Albion boss Mark McGhee paid tribute to the Seagulls star, who has enjoyed a meteoric rise in the last 12 months.

He said, "The Future squad is like like a mixture of the under-21s and old-fashioned B squad, but without calling up the full squad. I don't know what kind of team Germany would have, but it will certainly be a very good experience for Adam Virgo."

Virgo has stepped up from the reserves and became a hero at the end of last season with an unforgettable last-minute equaliser in the play-off semi final against Swindon. This season he's been vital component in Albion's Championship survival bid and is currently top scorer at the club with five goals.

"It's another sign of the progress the club are making," added McGhee. "We're getting people recognised at international level, regardless of whether Virgs goes on from here, he's at least got his foot in the door. That's brilliant for a player who still hasn't been given the opportunity to play in his favoured position."

Former Scottish international McGhee alerted acting Scottish national coach Tommy Burns to Virgo's availability. Burns, along with under-21 boss Rainer Bonhof, will be in charge for the game against Germany, which will be played at the Carl Benz Stadium in Mannheim next Tuesday, 7 December, with a 6.30 pm kick-off.

:cool:

Sugar Ray

30-11-2004, 12:29 AM

Who the hell is Adam Virgo?

And it seems that Rangers are again on the trail of buying Swiss footballer Hakan Yakin. The deal was on at the start of the season but fell through. But looks to be going through in January. I hope so. He's a very good, attacking creative midfielder. Something Rangers are missing. Apparently he thinks he's a bit of a big shot, but he can be a bloody good player.

dogincognito

30-11-2004, 12:43 AM

Name: Adam Virgo
Nationality: English Scottish :p
Date of Birth: 25/01/1983
Height: 6' 1" (185cm)
Weight: 12st 0lbs (76.27kg)
Previous Clubs: Exeter
Position: Defender

Brighton-born centre-back who signed professionally in 2000 at the relatively young age of 17, Adam made his first-team bow at the same age against Brentford in January 2001 in an LDV Trophy match. After spending some time at Exeter on loan last season his future at the Albion looked in doubt, but Mark McGhee gave Virgs an opportunity in the first team, and the youngster hasn't looked back since. A hero of the play offs, his dramatic last-gasp header against Swindon sent the game to penalties, and Virgs even scored one of the ensuing spot-kicks.

Season 2004 - 05

Competition Apps (as sub) Goals Yellow Cards Red Cards
League 17 (0) 5 4 1
League Cup 1 (0) 0 1 0

Career History:
Club Season Comp. Apps (as sub) Goals
Brighton 2003 - 04 League 23 (2) 2
Brighton 2002 - 03 League 3 (0) 0
Exeter 2002 - 03 League 8 (1) 0
Brighton 2001 - 02 League 4 (2) 0
Brighton 2000 - 01 League 2 (4) 0

Prefered (and best) position is centre back, played right back most of last season and looked superb there in Division 2, but looked a bit off the pace there in Division 1 The Championship. Moved up front as a target man with good results but his future is in the centre of defence.
And i wouldn't worry that you don't know him as i gess there are other players in the squad you don't really know....

And yes Yakin can be good but a bit inconsistent.

jonffm

02-09-2006, 03:45 PM

Scotland won you say?!

:O!

...What..? ...by a large scoreline?!

:O!

..Eh? Aginst a sub-standard team that they'd usually pussy-foot around but managing narrow victory, a-la England qualifiers?!

:O I'm shocked.

Sarcasm aside (which is shocking in itself), nice win today. I may be jumping the gun, because there's 5 minutes left, and let's face it...those superstars in the frontline of Faroes attack could attack ANYONES weakpoint for massive damage.

And just as I typed that, their keeper seemed to forget how to hold the ball...6-0...and the commentry informs me that it's the biggest margin of victory for Scotland since 1968.

Good on ya. Dingbat and Baastard, you might be shocked, but I REALLY want Scotland to qualify. Only Germany rivals the atmosphere of England vs Scotland, and i'm PRAYING we meet you in the finals.

How do you boys rate your chances of qualification? Couldn't have asked for a better start, but do you reckon it'll last?

basstard

02-09-2006, 04:05 PM

Good on ya. Dingbat and Baastard, you might be shocked

Damn straight! A Scotland win shocks everyone :p

, but I REALLY want Scotland to qualify. Only Germany rivals the atmosphere of England vs Scotland, and i'm PRAYING we meet you in the finals.

Heh, that'd be fantastic - Scotland / England games are always special, even if we end up being beaten by a large margin. Though no doubt trying to work out who to support would make Gordon Brown's head explode.

How do you boys rate your chances of qualification? Couldn't have asked for a better start, but do you reckon it'll last?

Couldn't've asked for a better start; couldn't've asked for a worse group. We have both the World Cup finalists and Ukraine coming up, all of whom are on paper (and probably in reality) better than us.

We've had several (!) wobbly years and we've taken the first steps of recovery with the Kiren cup and now this. My only hope is that the media don't call for Walter Smith's blood if we don't qualify - it's a bit unrealistic, to be honest, and I hope he can last at least for the WC 2010 qualifying; to give us a decent shot.

Dingbat

02-09-2006, 08:48 PM

Great effort by the lads today - instead of mwafing it up as we have done so many times, we actually went out and did what we were supposed to. Additionally, I found it quite interesting how England's form parallels Scotland's - matches we would usually have buggered up with and won by about 2-0, we're now winning properly :p

As far as qualification goes - well let's just say I hope Juventus go to the Supreme Court and that Ukraine suddenly drop Shevchenko, 'cause we ain't going through any other way. Third place in this group would be a huge success.

AngryPaul

02-09-2006, 09:44 PM

:claps:

basstard

06-09-2006, 08:23 PM

Scotland - 2 - 1 - Lithuania.

A promising match, we played well, but almost succumbed to the usual Scottish curse of 'shoddy defending due to getting lax after a decent lead'.

Things keep looking up.

Dingbat

08-09-2006, 09:46 AM

When we consider they got a 1-1 draw against Italy in Naples, that was a great result. Going in, I was expecting a draw, so a win is a bonus. France's result makes it all the better - if they smash everyone in their group and we keep up the pace with them; perhaps even beat them at Hampden if we pull out another great performance, even without Miller; then we could actually have a chance in a group in which I never saw us even having a hope, never mind real opportunity.

Then again, it is only two games in, so caution is always required.

basstard

07-10-2006, 06:19 PM

Then again, it is only two games in, so caution is always required.

What about now?

\o/

Scotland - 1 - 0 - France.

How's that for a shocker?

This result isn't really deserved - France had many decent opportunities, but our defending was excellent. The few attacking runs we got, well, only one needed to lead to a goal.

Thierry Henry was superb, as a talisman for France, leading them on, but France still seem to be missing a tiny something that Zidane always brought. They're missing him, more specifically.

My only fear is when Scotland do well, it usually means we get a drubbing next game [Holland, for example : 1-0 then 0-6].

Also, have this ad I found full-page in my paper this morning. I think it perfectly captures the mentality of the Tartan Army member.

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6715/scotlandadmb3.jpg

jonffm

07-10-2006, 07:47 PM

Scotland Hopes, England Expects ;)

Good on ya though. I wish I watched Scotland today rather than England.

If you can knock out Italy or France, and hopefully set up a match against us, you'll be doing us a MASSIVE favor. Knocking out one of the best teams in the world, and setting up a class game later on.

But for the love of god....if you're going to label Scotland as a nation of hope...this time, DON'T have another insanely unoptimistic footy song, should you qualify. I still laugh at your last one...the most depressingly fair footy song ever. :D

basstard

07-10-2006, 08:20 PM

But for the love of god....if you're going to label Scotland as a nation of hope...this time, DON'T have another insanely unoptimistic footy song, should you qualify. I still laugh at your last one...the most depressingly fair footy song ever. :D

Heh, Ally's Tartan Army?

To be fair, bearing in mind how many awful England world cup songs come out every four years [case in point : Neil and Christine Hamilton did one this year, as did Tony Christie] you don't really have the high ground :p

I like chumbawumba and 'vindaloo' though

If you can knock out Italy or France, and hopefully set up a match against us, you'll be doing us a MASSIVE favor. Knocking out one of the best teams in the world, and setting up a class game later on.

If we could knock out Italy or France it'll still be a miracle, heh. And I'd love to see a Scotland / England game - don't get enough of them any more. They always have a unique atmosphere around them, the minnows against the sharks.

At the moment I'm just hoping we can repeat the same thing against Ukraine next week.