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Cookies
19-10-2003, 09:34 PM
Do you believe that everyone has a soul mate?

I'm not too sure, some people never find love, or maybe we do but we miss our chances or choose the wrong paths. That is linked to whether you believe in fate or not and the ability to choose our own fates...but hey thats a whole other topic! :confused: what do u lot think?

MU||37
19-10-2003, 11:18 PM
I used to think about this all the time. But it quickly shorted fuses in my brain, so I said fuck it. Now I just don't worry about these kinds of things, but rather try and go with the flow.

CheHamstera
20-10-2003, 12:09 PM
^^ what he said.

if you spend time worrying about whether you will ever find true love, whether the person you're with right now is 'the one' or not, or even if all this crap really exists, then you spend too much time worrying and not enough time having fun.

and love should be all about having fun and making yourself and your loved ones happy.

personally, i have had at least four 'the ones' in my short life. i fall in love completely every time and it's always good, and i can always imagine a future with my loved ones. but people change and your definition of 'the one' changes with age and experience.

this is a very painful aproach to love. but this is how i do it and i wouldn't change it for the world. :)

PoofBird
20-10-2003, 12:22 PM
I don't believe in soulmates or "the one" at all.

For ages people have married and befriended people from their tribes or villages... or marriages were arranged.
Worked perfectly for ages.
So either soulmates always lived close to us, but recently moved away, or there is no such thing...

I've met a number of girls who are the one for me... maybe not at that time in life, or at that place...
or I wasn't ready to accept her bad habits (as The One is bound to have, nothing's perfect) and she couldn't accept mine.
After a while, sooner or later, you loose interest and move on...
Doesn't mean that in different circumstances it wouldn't have worked.

If we had lived a hundred years ago in a village, my first girlfriend would probably have been my wife, and i'm sure we would have been very happy...

times change though.

My current girlfriend is better in many ways, but partly because my life has changed, I have changed and I have relationship experience that enables me to deal with her.

On the otherhand, take soulmate a little less literal, and accept that there can be more than one; than yes.. you can have more soulmates.
it is possible to have friendships that feel so strong and deep it feels like your souls are linked.
They can go wrong just the same, as I've experienced. Both parties change and the world changes along, almost nothing lasts forever...

though I recommend everyone to treat their friends as soulmates and their love ones as "the ones", because it just might work...
and if it doesn't: Better to have loved and lost, than not to have loved at all

donkey_pie
20-10-2003, 04:16 PM
The thing is, is that if a soulmate exists how are you supposed to know if you've met them? Tis a nice idea however

felp
20-10-2003, 04:48 PM
i hope it's not true. The reason is simple:
I met my "soulmate" and pinkerbell, as corny as she tried to be, is correct, you do know. But if there is only 1 soulmate I will be forever sad, because though I thought she was the one for me, eventually she lost interest in me - mainly because as it turned out she used me until nothing but an empty husk of what once was a man remained. But i'm not bitter ;)
My point is that if it is true then i have no chance in life, and to go back on other points, my home is made on an arraged marrage, from this perspective it didn't work, they are 2 different people and only stay together out of respect for tredition. The amount of sad marrages out there both in the past and present kind of out weigh the argument of using arranged marages and other such things as evidence there is no soulmate.

now to make sense of everything i've said in a neat little summery or summery like creature:
I beleive that there is some1 you will meet, be it friend or lover, that is simply perfect for you, and i belive it's possible to meet more then 1 soulmate, but guys (guys refering to any1 it's not gender specific) admit it, when we do fall in love, and i mean love not lust, no1 else ever seems so attractive and appealing.... umm i've lost my own way on this, leave me undecided, or not, it's up to you really! or is it? yes it is.

electric gremmy
21-10-2003, 01:40 PM
I hope there is a soulmate out there for me, i've been moving around my entire life, my dad was in the military so we were always getting moved up and down the country. I've never felt like i fit in anywhere, my parents stuck me in an all boys school, so now i feel intimidated talking to girls (i went to a mixed school for my last school year, and am now at a mixed college so guess what thats like!)
I've never had a proper girlfriend, but i still hope that one day i'll meet someone that likes me.

Werequeen
22-10-2003, 08:52 PM
(am I still to Noob to say anything? )

but IMO I do belive we all have soul mates...not nercerserly (sp?) the perfect lover/Boyfriend/girlfriend But kinda a best friend...cause if you think about it, if this person is your soul mate (if were thinking the same thing...cause I've always thought that a soul mate was some one that was alot like you...I dont know I could be wrong) if you and this person are sooo much alike then if you try being in a romantic relationship you might fight alot and stuff...

But then again I could be compleatly wrong...so just ignore me.

PieKaos
22-10-2003, 10:13 PM
<Edit - This probably isn't the best topic for me to respond to at the moment. I'll edit this post later when I'm in a better mood.>

often Ndisguise
01-11-2003, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by MU||37
I used to think about this all the time. But it quickly shorted fuses in my brain, so I said fuck it. Now I just don't worry about these kinds of things, but rather try and go with the flow.

:D :D :D :D :D

LOL

yeah life is too short to worry about getting a soulmate or not.

kessninjapirate
02-11-2003, 02:20 AM
According to my fiancé, I found mine (ie. him) when I was 16, and it was a case of "if one thing had been different we never would have got together", which is a bit soulmatey, but I'm not so sure - how come, out of the six billion people in this world, my soulmate happened to live in the same country (and use the same website, way for online meetings) as me? And how come we found each other so young? If "the one"-type soulmates do exist, is there an explanation for polyamory?

It just .... makes no sense. And I'm also too noob to say anything.

k.t.n.p. x

often Ndisguise
02-11-2003, 02:25 AM
sometimes i think that the 'soulmate' thing is something ppl who are in love invent. Maybe that sounds a bit cynical but think of it this way:

There are billions and billions of people in the world. What are the chances that only one of these people is better for you than ALL the rest of the billions and billions of people. Can one person be that in tune with you?:D

Also, even if there is ONE soulmate out there for you, the chances of finding him or her amongst the billions of people are very slim.

But perhaps, more than just chance is involved? destiny perhaps?;)

Wally
02-11-2003, 07:50 AM
I'LL NEVER GET A SOULMATE!!:( :( :( :( :( :( :nana: :nana: :( :(

Chickadee
02-11-2003, 04:37 PM
I hope there is at least ONE person out there who I can befriend and enjoy a unique chemistry with forever.
However, I have yet to find ONE person who will ask me out...
I am not utterly jaded yet, so I will maintain that at least some people have soulmates. My mom and dad seem bound by fate and love, so I will hope....

Beef Magic
02-11-2003, 07:55 PM
"There's someone for everyone".

Balls. We're are going to die the same way we were born - with nothing. Some of us have to shut up moaning, relise we are going to die alone and start looking after your own life.

cadex
02-11-2003, 08:04 PM
yes, we all die, you cant help that.

I am planning on spending the rest of my life with my best friend and lover, mpd.

the term "soul mate" has bounced around in conversations we've had as we cant really think of any other way of putting our connection.

we are 100% comfortable talking to each other, we say what we like and can easily spend day after day in each others company and enjoy it all.

to say we are happy in out relationship is an understatement.
I feel as if I have met the one person I want to spend the rest of my life with, and that I can open myself up fully and bear my soul to her.
Im sure she feels the same way as well, as we have talked about stuff like this lots.


I never went looking for my soul mate, we just came together (on this forum) and it went from there.
we were never thinking "I wonder if this is my soulmate?"
as we got to know each other more, we realised how much love we had for each other.

its something that comes out of the blue and blossoms beautifuly if both of you are on the same level.

often Ndisguise
02-11-2003, 08:23 PM
dont want a soul mate. I think eveyrone is their own soulmate:rolleyes:

PoofBird
03-11-2003, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Beef Magic
"There's someone for everyone".

Balls. We're are going to die the same way we were born - with nothing. Some of us have to shut up moaning, relise we are going to die alone and start looking after your own life.

nonsense... and a bit sad that you feel that way.

SunFlower
03-11-2003, 10:56 AM
I do not think it is nonsense at all.
Despite the fact I have got a lovely family with whom I have a very strong connection and I have a boyfriend that I love and ofcourse other friends, some I hold very dearly, I still agree that purely hard core deep down you are alone. For that reason you and only you can make yourself happy for example. People can (and will ofcourse) help and a lot of people will walk along for quite some time in your life but people come and go and at the end you will be alone. Maybe even then there will be people around you. If you are lucky you will still have family around or even your lifepartner but I do not think anybody can and will know you as well, as totally, as you know yourself and for that reason nobody can even make you not alone. (Who doesn't have the experience of feeling totally alone although being surrounded by good friends in a pub or lying next to your partner in bed)

I am not sad for that reason. I do not think it is sad to think that way. It doesn't change the way I behave with people. Maybe I even still hope and think it might not be true. I surely don't act accordingly by keeping people away or whatever. But I think it is a realistic point to keep in the back of your mind. Also to make sure you will not be totally surprised and down if you find out people do leave you (your best friend decides (s)he likes the other friend better, or your partner decides it is over etc)
(Hmm, maybe it only helps a little bit with the surprisement, you will still feel down I imagine)

PoofBird
03-11-2003, 11:06 AM
sure, i agree with that ;) if you put it that way

Beef Magic put it a bit more blunt and fatalistic, which sounded like a load of pap to me. We will all die alone so stop moaning? Just put on a happy face.

felp
03-11-2003, 11:12 AM
i disagree, I do know people who at times seem to know me BETTER then I know myself, I intern seem to understand my close friends better then I do myself. I never feel lonely when in the company of my CLOSE friends, and when i was dating, if I did feel alone, all it would take is a hug and I'd be right as rain. Maybe there is nothing to life, maybe all these chemical reactions happening in our brain are there for nothing more then self-preservation. If that's so, then what I have I lost by leaving myself open to hope? Nothing. But if there is more to life, if there is something else, isn't that alone worth the hope of descovering whatever it is, all us humans seem to be missing? (and no i wasn't about to start a Morpheous speach :p)

squealpiggy
03-11-2003, 02:15 PM
In the Star Wars trilogy all the events of all three movies including the fall of the Empire can be attributed to the action (or lack of action) of one minor character. On the Star Destroyer that captures Princess Leia's blockade runner there is a gunner who has the duty of destroying any escape pods that are jettisoned. The commander tells the gunner to hold his fire with one pod as there are no lifeforms on board. That pod contained R2D2 and C3PO! If that commander had kept schtum and the pod had been destroyed R2 would not have met Luke, Luke would not have met Obi Wan, Obi Wan would never have found Han and Chewie, they wouldn't have gone to Alderaan, wouldn't have ended up on board the Death Star, wouldn't have rescued Leia, wouldn't have joined the rebellion and wouldn't have destroyed the Death Star.

Now you are wondering where I'm going with this, I'll explain:

I went to Canada on holiday for my birthday, I had always wanted to go. We were told about some crappy nightclub by a guy in a skateshop, and I decided to go there on my actual birthday. I got drunk and was getting ready to leave just as some girls were entering the club, I saw one and was stunned by how beautiful she was, went over and talked to her, she was planning on moving to England for a few years so I got her email address, she came to visit and we got on well. We are marrying in January.

If any of our plans were different on that night, if we didn't go there for a holiday, if she wasn't moving to England, if she didn't come to see me on that weekend, none of this could have happened. So is this a happy coincidence? Or is it a synchronicity? I have good reason to believe in soulmates because of the way my relationship with this girl started. It could all be a coincidence of course, but isn't it a much more comforting thought to think that it was some kind of Force that guides us?

I'm not a fatalist though, I do believe you have to take control over path your life takes, to play the hands it throws to you and that you are responsible for your own destiny, but there are some things you can't control and that's either chance or synchronicity.

SunFlower
04-11-2003, 09:18 AM
Squealpiggy: that is a lovely story. Congrats already on your wedding!
But it doesn't change the way I think I'm afraid. Ofcourse these kind of stories are great. There are more of those around. However the facts remain that 50% of the people marry somebody who lives at walking distance. Are those all happy coincidences or synchronicities? Or do you think those people haven't found their soulmate? (In my case my boyfriend happens to life across the street \o/)

Even worse: 50% of the marriages in America is bound to fail. That is something! I guess you won't marry someone before you know for sure that that is 'the one' so all these ones didn't turn out to be what was expected of them. That makes me sad.

So I look with a realistic eye to my own relationship, see if we really fit together and if so we are one of the ones for each other, but I am sure there are more of them out there and none of them is totally perfect. Maybe it is just self protection (not getting my hopes up to high) but I know I do have high standards but I also try to be realistic or something.

Ah well, maybe I will meet someone in a similar story like yours and I will change my opinion, but I really doubt it ;) Maybe I am also not the person for it, too rational and all :rolleyes:

squealpiggy
04-11-2003, 09:44 AM
That isn't of course to say that I believe in soulmates as such, but I do believe in little coincidences which if one takes advantage off, can make a person very happy.

cadex
04-11-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by squealpiggy
In the Star Wars trilogy all the events of all three movies including the fall of the Empire can be attributed to the action (or lack of action) of one minor character. On the Star Destroyer that captures Princess Leia's blockade runner there is a gunner who has the duty of destroying any escape pods that are jettisoned. The commander tells the gunner to hold his fire with one pod as there are no lifeforms on board. That pod contained R2D2 and C3PO! If that commander had kept schtum and the pod had been destroyed R2 would not have met Luke, Luke would not have met Obi Wan, Obi Wan would never have found Han and Chewie, they wouldn't have gone to Alderaan, wouldn't have ended up on board the Death Star, wouldn't have rescued Leia, wouldn't have joined the rebellion and wouldn't have destroyed the Death Star.


oh my god.....


I have some jaffa cakes in my jacket pocket!



i love spaced

squealpiggy
04-11-2003, 04:31 PM
I am such a geek that this had occurred to me before I saw that episode of Spaced!

Wally
04-11-2003, 05:02 PM
You know.. girls are very wierd.. they sll wear stuff and... well there still pretty wierd... for an example... they comunicate.. wierd.... and uhhhhhhhh... thaaaa.... uhmmmm.... and... PIE!!!!!!

Cookies
06-11-2003, 05:25 PM
I am really not sure about my view on soulmates, i just wanted to know other people's ideas and opinions as the whole ''soulmate'' theory intreiges me and i think its a luvley idea.

If you had asked about my opinion on soulmates a year ago it wouldn't have been high, the few relationships i've had i wouldn't even call them relationships. I was never treated well, i never felt 'loved'. I convinced myself that i felt every one of those things but in retrospect i was lying to myself.

Ask me now and my perspective has completley changed, i used to fancy one of my lad friends, he wasn't interested in me and i kept hoping that he would suddenly seem interested in me. One day i convinced him to come out wiv me for the day, he reluctantly accepted, we where bored when we ran into his friend, someone i didn't know. The next day i was totally i fell for his friend, i never thought of love at first sight, but now i do. He was everything i wanted in a friend and we have been going out for two months today. IF i hadnt of liked the other boy and i hadn't convinced him to come out i never would have met my boyfriend. Not saying that he is my soulmate, just that i have never felt like this towards someone before, and he is my definition of a soulmate.

Sappy stupid story i know, just thought i would share wiv u luvley people....

Beef Magic
06-11-2003, 08:20 PM
Some of will love. Some of us won't. Simple as that.

often Ndisguise
08-11-2003, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Beef Magic
Some of will love. Some of us won't. Simple as that.

and the wiser of us ahve realized that no one is worth loving more than urself :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p

Beef Magic
09-11-2003, 02:11 PM
I'm not joking. I don't love myself. I love my friends. But you see - Until we can look after ourselves, how can we look after others?