Badger Racing

[Makko]

Ok the point is you plae bets on a badger if your badger wins you get double the money!
But you place your bets here and i will do the racing with no nitros or droppings(what ever there called!)

i will do this every week! (on a sunday!)

If you want me to use a nitro on your badger you have to pay 10 more rupies (THE 10 RUPIES WON'T BE DOUBLED!!!!)

keeping in mind i might not be able to pull this of.....

[Dingbat]

I doubt you will. Badger Racing makes it very easy to get big money very fast. Rupie-wise, it'd be almost impossible to pull off unless you're skoo.

[PJ]

You wont we cant trust you.we dont know if your rigging it.

[AngryPaul]

Originally posted by Peej
You wont we cant trust you.we dont know if your rigging it. Well you can at least wait til it looks suspicious you start accusing people! Christ! Get off his back! If you are going to accuse everyone who bases a betting thread on a fictional event then why not accuse PoofBird or Jonny? Exactly - give them a chance!

However, Peg, I dont think you have enough rupies to back up a betting thread at this moment (£40) Reading the Sports and Bets Rules and FAQ's (http://www.weebls-stuff.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12350) might help ;)

[Makko]

I'm not going to rig it! even if i was i would get banned! now what would be the point in that?

Nobodys placed a bet yet:(

[AngryPaul]

Originally posted by peg
I'm not going to rig it! even if i was i would get banned! now what would be the point in that?Some people do it so the result is in their best interest - So that the outcome makes them the most roopee'sOriginally posted by peg
Nobodys placed a bet yet:( We have no badgers to bet on!

[Beez]

Matthew, what in earth are you making a competition for?

It sucks, and if you get banned i'll kill you because i use the same comp:@

No-one will bet and i'm not going to either.


But ill go for the one on top lane for 1 rupie.

[edit]

Actually it sounds ok, i'll help you with the rupies you may either donate to me or peg, i will also show screenshots of the winner.

Intrest is times 2 but max bidding is 5 so if you bet 5 you get 10 rupies back if you win because i don't have enough rupies to make it last.

Hmmm anyone care to place a bid?

[TusksRUs]

Originally posted by Beez
Matthew, what in earth are you making a competition for?

It sucks, and if you get banned i'll kill you because i use the same comp:@

That wouldn't stop you, or anyone, would it? :rolleyes:

and this wont get peg banned

hehe, matthew

[Beez]

I have edited my post please read it.

Anyone please give it a try?

Tusks come on your a betting person take a gamble...

[edit] D'oh, Tusks you should really start to gamble =P.

Anyone care to place a bet just to see what this threads about?

[AngryPaul]

Originally posted by Beez
Tusks come on your a betting personNo they arnt
AngryPaul: Are you a betting person?
TusksRUs: NopePlus we still have no Badgers to bet on!! If we had badgers/odds to bet on to win people might bet, but saying "I am running a race - Bet!" doesnt actually make sense!

[Beez]

Ok, here are the odds (i don't quite understand what ap means), You can buy a nitro or a bomb for an extra 10 rupies to encrease chance of winning, but that will be for future referance at the moment just choose one of theese badgers you want to win and place a bid on how much you bet on it, then i will click start on the race and show you who wins and then donate (if someone wins) the rupies.

forgot to attach image

http://www.pureoc.d2g.com/uploaded_images/28487.png


[edit 2] Damnit click the link [/edit 2]

[PJ]

AP means i.e

fat arse 3/1

long legs 4/1

arse hole 7/1

chance of this thread working without odds 10000000000/1

[Beez]

Atleast read my post.

Anyway Save that image that is linked above and circle the badger you want to bet on in red so i know which badger your on about.

And then i will take a screenshot of the race ended. or close to the end.

Thankees

(Who will be brave and take the first bet; you may think im trying to scam rupies from you all but this is just an idea peg had that i am trying to help.)

[Makko]

ok then the betting will begin!

this is top lane to bottem lane

1.) Badger 1, Beez for 1 rupie,
2.) Badger 2,
3.) Badger 3,
4.) Badger 4,
5.) Badger 5,
6.) Badger 6,

MAX BET IS 5 RUPIES!!!!

[PlasticVicar]

what are the odds?

[Makko]

Well, its badger racing isn't it.
the one on weebls-stuff games.
so i have no idea!

[Dingbat]

Then they should all be equal odds, as no badger has a clear-cut advantage.

[damn tasche]

Look, this sounds like a good idea to me - it just needs to be a little more organised.

Have the badgers all evens like dingbat said.

As for nitros and bombs what's the point in having a nitro costing the same as a bomb when a nitro makes you a lot faster, but a bomb just slows someone down.

You should pay however many for nitro and then less for bombs, but have the bombs work like this:

x rupies - drop a bomb on a random badger (could be yours! but cheap)
y rupies - drop a bomb on a specific number badger
z rupies - drop a bomb on the leader or 2nd place if you're in the lead

So that more than one person could vote for the same badger, have it that if one person buys something to aid the badger then everyone who has bet on that badger has to pay some rupies as well - lets say half i.e. if it's 10 rupies for something then the person who bought it pays 10 rupies and everyone else who bets on that badger has to pay 5 rupies as well.

This would make people think twice about using the items, etc.

You could also start making a list of maybe 15 badgers and picking 5 random badgers for each race, assigning each a number. When a badger wins a race, their odds of winning could increase, if they come second their odds of winning increase but not as much, if they come third their odd don't change, 4th their odds decrease and 5th their odds decrease by more.

Maybe if you added some of these ideas the game would be more fun, interesting and organised.

[Makko]

ok then,
i start all over again

3 rupies for a random bomb!
6 Rupies for a bomb on a Chosen person
9 Rupies for a bomb on the first place badger or second place badger if your in first place.

5 rupies for a random nitro (MIGHT BE SOMEONE ELSES!!!)
20 rupies for a nitro on a selected badger!

there is no betting money just the amount of the stuff above and 5 rupies more!

[Dingbat]

Well then doesn't that make betting on it obsolete?

Though I like the ideas that you've used from Deetee, the whole point of it is to get people to bet on it.

[sheep go moo]

hey watch this
10 rupies max to begin with(i may back this thread so if i do that it will go way up), pick a badger to win-1/1(is that how you show if you win you get double your money)

5 rupies for a random bomb
10 rupies for a bomb on anyone of your selection in positions 3-6
15 rupies for a bomb to hit either 1st or 2nd

5 rupies for a random nitro
20 rupies for a selected badger's nitro

There you have your betting thread

[damn tasche]

For bombs and nitros it might be an idea if people could specify whether they wanted it used somewhere around the beginning, somewhere around the middle or somewhere around the end.

Because when you use a bomb, etc. does makes a difference.

(Might want to make it so beginning is cheaper, middle is more expensive and end is more expensive still).

[sheep go moo]

dt i am just now running a few ground tests to do that exact thing if so thenm i will edit my past post

[damn tasche]

Right, there are 4 sections to the race - here is what I propose the final rules for the whole thing should be:

In each race there will be 5 badgers, the 5 badgers will be randomly selected from the list of badgers (there will be 15 to start, but more can always be added). Each of the 5 badgers will be assigned a number so people can bet on them.

The maximum bet is 50 rupies and the minimum bet is 15 (this can be changed dependant on your funds).

However, if you want to push luck a bit more to your side, you can always purchase one of our sneaky items. When an item is purchased by someone, everyone else who was betting on that badger or bets on that badger must pay half the price of the item as well because it will benefit everyone (and they're lucky getting it cheap).

How are winnings sorted out you may ask. Like so:

If you have bought an item then 25% of the item's value will be added to what you bet (i.e. if you bet 10, bought something for 16 it would come out as 14). Then all the bets would be added up for each badger then each better will have a percentage worked out - this is the percentage of the bets on that badger which was made by them.

When a badger wins, the money is treated as a whole - say it came to 300 for this instance. The badger that won had odds of 1/1 so 300 comes back as 600. Then everyone who betted on that badger gets their percentage from the winnings e.g. if bob had 50%, tom had 25% and peter had 25% then bob would get 300 and tom and peter would each get 150.

The course is split into 4 different sections, Section 1 being at the start and Section 4 being at the end.

Here is the items list:

6 rupies - random bomb (will hit a random badger)
10 rupies - specific bomb (will hit a specific number)
14 rupies - golden bomb (will hit the leader or 2nd place if you are in the lead)
18 rupies - nitro (speeds your badger up to insane levels)

These are the base prices, you then add the following modifier for each section:

Section 1: - 2 rupies
Section 2: + 2 rupies
Section 3: + 6 rupies
Section 4: + 10 rupies

So for example say you wanted to buy a specific bomb to be dropped on badger 4 in section 3 it will cost: 10 + 6 rupies = 16 rupies for you, then everyone else who bets on that badger pays an extra 8 rupies as well. When it comes to the total income you will get 25% of this added to how much you bet, say you bet 10 it will be as if you had betted: 25% of 16 = 4 + 10 = 14.

And finally here are the list of badgers:

Thunder Titan - 1/1
Dark Devil - 1/1
Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1
Pinkers - 1/1
Badger2k - 1/1
Nightmare Revealer - 1/1
Badger.com - 1/1
Blossom - 1/1
Sunshine of the day - 1/1
Demon - 1/1
Death by numbers - 1/1
Bob - 1/1
Henry - 1/1
Edward the second - 1/1
BadgerBadger - 1/1

When a badger comes 1st their odds increase, 2nd odds increase by not as much, 3rd don't change, 4th decrease, 5th decrease by more. I haven't worked out how it will change yet - I've never been quite sure how odds work.

So for an example the next race will involve the following randomly selected badgers:

1: Henry - 1/1
2: Sunshine of the day - 1/1
3: BadgerBadger - 1/1
4: Badger2k - 1/1
5: Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1

Then people would proceed to bet.

How does that sound to everyone?

[sheep go moo]

deetee
you have done it
i will back this thread i have 1700 rupies in shares which i can get out if need be i love the sound of this thread.
abit complicated but people will get used to it

[damn tasche]

What we really need is someone who understands odds so we can start adjusting badgers accordingly.

edit: we might also want to put a limit on to how many of each item can be bought for each badger.

[sheep go moo]

yeh i know
it seems thatme and you basically are running this thing now do you want to do that
i think max 2 or 3 bombs and one nito maybe 2 it really depends

[Zackron Goldago]

just do even odds or 2/1 so your money gets doubled or tripled. dont have different odds for each as they are all just computer badgers

[Makko]

Look this item thing aint going to work!
Only the badger you select can have nitros!
I'm just ganna Do the race and what ever badger wins will get double the amount of money placed!!!!

P.S you can only bid 10 rupies!
and theres only ONE bet to a badger!!!

badger 1.) Nobody yet...
badger 2.) Nobody yet...
badger 3.) Nobody yet...
badger 4.) Nobody yet...
badger 5.) Nobody yet...
badger 6.) Nobody yet...

[AngryPaul]

Originally posted by peg
Only the badger you select can have nitros!*sigh* So slow to notice

This whole confusion could have been avoided if you had just listened when I asaid about odds to bet on :rolleyes:

People need to disciss their ideas before making a thread about them. Example: This thread is now full of planning and has had nothing to do with the actual betting yet!

[sheep go moo]

AP that is the point of my thread

[damn tasche]

Way ahead of you ;)

All worked out and I've adjusted the rules I had before because it meant people who won would end up more likely losing than winning.

Bits in bold are the changed bits and bits in white are the new system I've worked out:

In each race there will be 5 badgers, the 5 badgers will be randomly selected from the list of badgers (there will be 15 to start, but more can always be added). Each of the 5 badgers will be assigned a number so people can bet on them.

The maximum bet is 50 rupies and the minimum bet is 15 (this can be changed dependant on your funds).

However, if you want to push luck a bit more to your side, you can always purchase one of our sneaky items. When an item is purchased by someone, everyone else who was betting on that badger or bets on that badger must pay a quarter the price of the item as well because it will benefit everyone (and they're lucky getting it cheap).

How are winnings sorted out you may ask. Like so:

If you have bought an item then 50% of the item's value will be added to what you bet (i.e. if you bet 10, bought something for 16 it would come out as 18). Then all the bets would be added up for each badger then each better will have a percentage worked out - this is the percentage of the bets on that badger which was made by them.

When a badger wins, the money is treated as a whole - say it came to 300 for this instance. The badger that won had odds of 1/1 so 300 comes back as 600. Then everyone who betted on that badger gets their percentage from the winnings e.g. if bob had 50%, tom had 25% and peter had 25% then bob would get 300 and tom and peter would each get 150.

The course is split into 4 different sections, Section 1 being at the start and Section 4 being at the end.

Here is the items list:

6 rupies - random bomb (2 points, - 1 point off a random badger)
10 rupies - specific bomb (2 points, - 1 point off a chosen badger)
14 rupies - golden bomb (4 points, - 1 point off badger with most points or 2nd most if you have most)
18 rupies - nitro (6 points)

These are the base prices, you then add the following modifier for each section:

Section 1: - 2 rupies (+ 0 points)
Section 2: + 2 rupies (+ 1 point)
Section 3: + 6 rupies (+ 2 points)
Section 4: + 10 rupies (+ 3 points)

So for example say you wanted to buy a specific bomb to be dropped on badger 4 in section 3 it will cost: 10 + 6 rupies = 16 rupies for you, then everyone else who bets on that badger pays an extra 4 rupies as well. When it comes to the total income you will get 50% of this added to how much you bet, say you bet 10 it will be as if you had betted: 50% of 16 = 8 + 10 = 18. Then the points added to the badgers base points would be: 2 + 2 = + 4 and - 1 for badger 4.

And finally here are the list of badgers:

Thunder Titan - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Dark Devil - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Pinkers - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Badger2k - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Nightmare Revealer - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Badger.com - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Blossom - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Sunshine of the day - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Demon - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Death by numbers - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Bob - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Henry - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Edward the second - 1/1 (base points: 10)
BadgerBadger - 1/1 (base points: 10)

When a badger comes 1st their odds increase, 2nd odds increase by not as much, 3rd don't change, 4th decrease, 5th decrease by more.

We could have it like this:

1st: 1/1 -> 3/1
2nd: 1/1 ->2/1
3rd: 1/1 -> 1/1
4th: 1/1 -> 1/2
5th: 1/1 -> 1/3

And we could have it so odds can't drop below 1/6 and get go above 6/1 (though I haven't tested this bit yet).

So for an example the next race will involve the following randomly selected badgers:

1: Henry - 1/1 (base points: 10)
2: Sunshine of the day - 1/1 (base points: 10)
3: BadgerBadger - 1/1 (base points: 10)
4: Badger2k - 1/1 (base points: 10)
5: Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1 (base points: 10)

Then people would proceed to bet.

What about these points? I here you ask, it works like so:

After betting the total extra points for each badger (and total points removed if someone's used a sneaky bomb) will be added to the badger's base points (which will change depending on the odds for that badger - a badger with odds 2/1 would have 11 base points, a badger with 3/1 would have 12, a badge with 1/2 would have 9, etc.)

Then the total points would be added up so we have a grand total of points, lets say it turned out like this:

Badger 1: 10 points
Badger 2: 8 points
Badger 3: 16 points
Badger 4: 15 points
Badger 5: 20 points

Total: 69 points

The badgers would then get assigned number(s) by their points, so in this case:

Badger 1: 0 - 9
Badger 2: 10 - 17
Badger 3: 18 - 33
Badger 4: 33 - 48
Badger 5: 49 - 68

Then, using the trusty random number button on my calculator I'll generate the winner:

winner = rand. # * 68

(random number generates a random number between 0 and 1 - all decimals will be rounded)

Then this can be repeated until we have all the positions.

There, that works perfectly now.

Random number can also be used to decided which badgers out of the list of 15 take part and which badger a random bomb gets dropped on.

[sheep go moo]

that is brilliant deetee
you have taken control of this thread and i beleive that the betting should begin

[damn tasche]

I want to wait for AngryPaul's approval first as he seems to be the master of betting round these parts.

Plus I would feel like I was stealing peg's thread.

[Makko]

It should just start the way i said it will!
besides the is nothing like a golden bomb or anything
and there is 6 badgers!

[sheep go moo]

deetee isnt using the weebls-stuff game
read his post
p.s. deetee just start your own thread, if AP approves because your idea is really good

[Makko]

Well, my thread is using the actual game...
and if there is only one vote per badger and max rupies 10 min 5 i'm sure to make a profit:). So the betting will begin NOW!!

Remember: 1 person to a badger!!
Race will start when every badger has a better!
If you win you will get double your rupies you betted!!!!!!

PLACE YOUR BETS!

badger 1.) Nobody yet...
badger 2.) Nobody yet...
badger 3.) Nobody yet...
badger 4.) Nobody yet...
badger 5.) Nobody yet...
badger 6.) Nobody yet...

[sheep go moo]

please stop and think
no-one will bet because you are blatantly someone who is l;ike 11 years old and dont care about the game you only want to make rupies

[Makko]

WRONG! im 10, lol.

[Dingbat]

Originally posted by peg
WRONG! im 10, lol.

It's true.

No offence peg, but you really are a bit too young to be coming onto these forums.

Can we stop this little dude from getting into the Hot Tub?

[sheep go moo]

i dont think the age bothers that many people(as long as he doesnt go into the lads thread) i think it is that his mental age shows to be of 10 year old (obviously) and therefore he wants to have more, more, more.
no offence to peg

[Makko]

Being young SUCKS! i don't care that i'm 10 I've seen things (VIOLINCE) on the TV that i'm not meant to see because im only 10, BUT the fact is NOBODY REALLY CARES!!!!

[TusksRUs]

If nobody really cares, why post it?

surely you know that if nobody cares you dont?

[damn tasche]

Originally posted by peg
Being young SUCKS! i don't care that i'm 10 I've seen things (VIOLINCE) on the TV that i'm not meant to see because im only 10, BUT the fact is NOBODY REALLY CARES!!!!

There's nothing big or clever about seeing violence and "bad" things on television.

[Makko]

Originally posted by TusksRUs
If nobody really cares, why post it?

surely you know that if nobody cares you dont?

it's not that nobody cares about this thread its that nobody should care that i'm only 10.