The first bastion of -=RAP=- on weebls music. [Archive]

MrPlowHamburglr

25-06-2004, 06:10 AM

Hello, any other rap listeners out there? And I mean real rap, not the crap you see played on TV for the most part. If so then it's time to establish some rap threads here at weebls music.

So for starters, why not throw out some group names and tell what types of rap you are listening to, maybe.

(I can only hope that you won't say 50 cent, Chingy, Nelly, virtually any rapper whose name ends with a -y, J-Kwon, and to a lesser extent Ludacris or Eminem)

I'm interested in stuff like
-Wu Tang
-'Ol Dirty Bastard
-Gza
-Raekwon
-Ghostface
-Cypress Hill
-Nas
-Snoop and Dre
-Beastie Boys
-DMX
-Rascalz
-Gang Starr
-Blackalicious
-Maestro
-DJ serious
-DJ format
etc.

Vive la resistance!

cadex

25-06-2004, 02:06 PM

Dr Dooom
Dr Octagon
MF Doom
KMD
Pharcyde
Roots Manuva
Madlib
Blackalicious
jurassic 5
Rodney P
Skitz
Antipop consortium
Gangstarr
juru the damaja
Black Twang
Doseone
Dan the Automator
DJ Qbert
Dilated Peoples
Beastie Boys
Latyrx
Dead Prez
King Geedorah
Quasimoto
DJ Format
DJ Yoda
Greenpeace
Scratch Perverts
DJ Shadow
Infesticons/Majesticons
Mike Ladd
Pete Rock
Rahzel
Sage Francis
Cut Chemist
Kool Keith
People Under the stairs
Talib Kwali
Wu Tang
The Herbaliser
Aesop Rock
Ugly Duckling
Boogie Down Productions
KRS One
Zack de la rocha

many more

Psychokilla

25-06-2004, 02:20 PM

Beastie Boys new album is great, got it last week and havent stopped playing it since.

Tip= Try listening to BB and playing UT2004 at the same time its great.

ShortFuse

25-06-2004, 02:51 PM

BrainTax.
TaskForce.
Cypress Hill.
Biggie Smalls.
Dilated Peoples.
Beastie Boys.
BusDriver.

I listen to all types of rap music even Eminem. The thing I hate most about Rap today is that if you say you like Eminem even the slightest you get slated for it straight away and I'm not saying all his songs/raps are amazing quality but his old stuff and his freestyles, I think, are pretty amazing but thats just my opinion.

GorillaBearBear

25-06-2004, 05:32 PM

Sage Francis
Non Prophets
DJ Signify (and his collaborations with Buck 65 and Sage Francis)
Buck 65
Antipop Consortium
Alias
Sole
Doseone
Passage
The Pedestrian
cLOUDDEAD
Why?
Braintax
Taskforce
Yungun
Roots Manuva
Ty
Sebutones
Aesop Rock
Deep Puddle Dynamics
Slug
Cypress Hill
Mike Ladd
Infesticons
Themselves
And many more.

That''s just on the MC side of things though. I'm a big fan of instrumental hip-hop too, people liek Sixtoo, Blockhead, DJ Signify (again)...etc.
Btw the list the thread starter put is pretty mainstream, I see most of it on MTV (or would if I watched it). I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying "underground" and similar is a term bandied about a bit too often these days.

Vladimir

25-06-2004, 05:40 PM

How can you forget Jedi Mind Tricks.

GorillaBearBear

25-06-2004, 06:01 PM

by never having heard of them

Shiny_macShine

25-06-2004, 08:15 PM

I've heard of them.

I've got one of their albums.

I think there quite crap ,but thats just my opinion of course.

Anyway the shiznitz i like ...

The Last Emperor
Viktor Vaughn
A Tribe Called Quest
Public Enemy
Del The Funky Homosapien
Heiroglyphics
Big Daddy Kane
Slick Rick
People Under The Stairs
MF Grimm
Kool G Rap
Outkast (up to Aquemini)
Mos Def
Talib Kweli
Danger Mouse & Gemini
Fingathing
Gamma
Rob The Viking

There are loads more but i thought i'd men.tion some not already here

MrPlowHamburglr

25-06-2004, 08:25 PM

Btw the list the thread starter put is pretty mainstream, I see most of it on MTV (or would if I watched it). I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying "underground" and similar is a term bandied about a bit too often these days.

I'd say that is a bit of an exagerration, I don't think I've ever seen anything on MuchMusic or MTVCanada (not that I watch it much) from half the artists I listed. Ever seem a Liquid Swords or Ironman video on TV? And surely you don't think that the majority of the ODB's stuff is mainstream; that stuff would never get played even on radio.

But I did only list a few of the more major artists I like in my list, and anyways maybe you can show me some good underground british(?) rap.

A tribe called quest
Busta Rhymes (Back when he was good - the Woo Ha era)
Fugees
Group X (Self-styled rap anyway, but good, funny stuff)
Jay Z (Self-agrandizing, yes, but with the sheer volume of stuff he has put out there have been good tracks - ex: the "Time to Build" colaboration)
Brass Munk
Kardinal Offishall
KRS-One
NWA
Punjabi MC

Mittwoch

25-06-2004, 08:29 PM

a little busta rhymes, pharcyde, dj qbert, dilated peoples, k-os, dmx, outkast. not much but im going off rap for the moment... damn you mainstream! (and oh yes, im sorry to admit it but i am guilty of rapping along to ludacris :( )

GorillaBearBear

25-06-2004, 09:05 PM

Fair enough, I didn't mean to say they were all like uber mainsgtream hip pop, but It's not exactly underground - fair play though, most of it's pretty good.

As to good british Rap I recommend buying 2 CDs called Taskforce Presents DJ Louis Slipperz Slippery £10 bag (I and II). It's got a good spread with Jehst, Taskforce, Braintax, Yungun etc. It's pretty good. A bit too much like th Bitch Nigga culture for the east enders, but pretty good nontheless.

Beef Magic

25-06-2004, 09:17 PM

yes.

Goldie Lookin' Chain
cLOUDDEAD (are they, aren't they?!)
Cypress Hill
Mike Ladd / Infesticons
MC9
Non-Prophets

Space Prawn

25-06-2004, 09:21 PM

I love the fact that the Beastie Boys are all in their mind-forties and still going at it better than everyone else in the mainstream. They might get slated for being Wiggaz, but that's irony for you :D

GuerillaBaaBaa, for putting Sage Francis at the top of your list, I now love you.

GorillaBearBear

25-06-2004, 09:25 PM

Sager Francis clearly owns. Listening to Non-prophets is kind of like listening to Rage against the machine without the guitars and with scratching and drum machines and Joe Beats goodness. I also love some of his lines, such as:

"I'm not right wing, or left wing
I'm the Middle Finger"

"This is My house, you don't like it get the fuck off of my rooftop"

The one that's in my sig. So many more. He's fuckign ace. I think his non-prophets shit is best though. Personal Journals is a bit too disjointed because every song has a different producer. Even so, he's definately my favourite MC at the moment, because he's fast, funny and he's like, one of the only leftfield rappers who rhymes anymore. Him and Alias are basically the only ones who rhyme nowadays.

Space Prawn

25-06-2004, 09:35 PM

He's the difference between rap and poetry. Not in a Streets sort of way, which is a bit more tongue in cheek - but he gets the Left-wing message across without being too heavy handed with it. Rage sometimes went a little over the top, but Sage (especially on Hey Bobby) just cuts through the poop and tells it nice and simple without getting too worked up. It's cool and slick, not angry.

Does anyone know Jehst? My friends have mentioned him a couple of times, but he doesn't seem to have much of an internet presence.

GorillaBearBear

25-06-2004, 09:39 PM

I've heard a bit of Jehst. He's definately the best of the UK mainstream yet underground hip-hop camp. Except maybe Braintax. He's well worth checking out.

Wolverine

26-06-2004, 04:23 AM

Originally posted by Psychokilla
Tip= Try listening to BB and playing UT2004 at the same time its great.

i prefer listeniong to rob zombie whilst playing unreal

on the subject of rap, i think that the beastie boys are the only good rap, other than that, i think it sucks big hairy monkey balls.
I do like "my buddy" by 50 cent though

GorillaBearBear

26-06-2004, 04:58 PM

I think based on that you should be shot. You're clearly basing your Opinion on the narrowist stretch of the Rap genre ever (tm)

Beef Magic

26-06-2004, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by GuerillaBaaBaa
I've heard a bit of Jehst. He's definately the best of the UK mainstream yet underground hip-hop camp. Except maybe Braintax. He's well worth checking out.

that's balls Tom, and you know it. MC Mongmaster and The Magic Boy Dave are the kings of the underground scene.

docter_storm

27-06-2004, 08:43 PM

Im Listernin at the moment mainly to:

Cypress hill
B.I.G
Non Phixion
Dizzy Rascle
Black Twang
Royce Da 59
Pete Pablo
Roots Manuva

and tons of compelations where you get the occasional phat tune but you have to siv through the Sheite. Except for Westwood. the first album. which was off the hook.

GorillaBearBear

27-06-2004, 10:46 PM

eugh, Dizzee rascal is shee-ite :/

Just thought I'd pop by to say I had my first experience of the Pharcyde today. The song was "She keeps on Passing me By". Bloody Ace. It's kind of Beastie Boys meets Cypress Hill meets The Herbaliser meets Mr Scruff. Well worth checking out.

MrPlowHamburglr

28-06-2004, 01:36 AM

Well I've downloaded (for shame, I know) some Braintax and I think it's alright. I thought it was a little more conventional, sanitized, and narrative than a lot of what I listen to, but it reminded me a bit of Maestro. I'd say it is somewhere between Nas, Maestro, and Kid Koala.

GorillaBearBear

28-06-2004, 04:52 PM

You should check out some Jehst and Taskforce. All quite similar and intense. Yeah it's conventional, but the near-cockney accents make up for it :D

Darthwhite

30-06-2004, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by GuerillaBaaBaa
eugh, Dizzee rascal is shee-ite :/

rap / hiphop is shite.

Rock RULES.

why =

a) if you take away the lyrics wyou still have music.

b) you can air guitar to it.

c) it doesn't offend anyone.

d) it's been around longer.

e) it's a hell of a lot more fun.

flame away, i am wearing a flame proof vest.

actualy, that shite is bearable, when you mute it and put somthing else on... :cool:

MrPlowHamburglr

30-06-2004, 03:31 PM

Darthwhite you should really just piss off. No one asked you to post here, no one cares what you think (just like in real life) and thus there is little reason for anyone to flame you.

bufo

30-06-2004, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by MrPlowHamburglr
Darthwhite you should really just piss off. No one asked you to post here, no one cares what you think (just like in real life) and thus there is little reason for anyone to flame you.
yeah man Darthwhite should get smacked just for making comments that dumb

I listen to hiphop a lot
Current fav's:
Sixtoo
Prefuse 73
Jedi Mind Tricks
Opgezwolle (Dutch)
Madvillain, MF Doom, King Geedorah, Viktor Vaughn
Mos Def
Pete Rock
RJD2
C-Mon & Kypski
Dj Shadow
El-P
McEnroe
Eyedea & Abilities
Cannibal Ox
Mr Lif
Dangermouse & Jemini
Blackalicious
Soul Position
Deep Puddle Dynamics
Beans
Atmosphere
The Roots
Aesop Rock
Jurassic 5
The Demigodz

MrPlowHamburglr

30-06-2004, 04:11 PM

Cool. Maybe I'll check out that Aesop Rock that you guys are mentioning.

GorillaBearBear

30-06-2004, 04:21 PM

Yeah you should. I'd start with labor Days or Bazooka Tooth. Labor Days is US Import though, so might cost more. He's a fucking good MC, but his accent and voice might annoy some.

Garg

30-06-2004, 04:23 PM

As regards to the cock who dislikes rap/hip-hop.

Firstly, you have clearly shown to us fans that you have a complete disregard for the difference between the two.

Secondly, if there is a place dedicated for rap and hip hop music, and you know full well that you dislike it... the fuck off with the reading of it.

Now you know.

Dr_nwa

30-06-2004, 04:24 PM

Aesop rock is worth listening to...
I have been listening to a lot of french hip-hop recently and its damm good. IAM, fonky family, NTM, Cut killer and MC solaar are good, although MC solaar is apparently considered the eminem of french hip-hop, as he has "sold out". Cut killer is much more mash up oriented, similar to DJ yoda.
I cannot understand what they are going on about, as its in french, but apparently it is along a similar line to DMX/dead prez type stuff...

Monosyllabic

30-06-2004, 04:30 PM

I'd prefer these punk/rock bands:

deep purple
anal thunder
danzig
samhain
misfits
black flag
ramones
rancid
mxpx
never heard of it
pennywise
nofx
less than jake
sex pistols
lagwagon
bad religion
the knob
sublime
a new found glory
mest
ataris
green day
no use for a name
rx bandits
the soviettes
fenix tx
goldfinger
sublime
mad caddies
third eye blind
millencolin
sum 41
dead kennedys
the clash
thursday
descendents
alkaline trio
no more black
ministry
epoxies
authority zero
strung out
social distortion
anti-flag
rise against
rise against machines
denali
good riddance
A Global Threat
distillers
against me
operation ivy
casualities
sick of it all
bouncing souls
unseen
taking back sunday
armor for sleep
minor threat
bright eyes
hate breed
yellowcard
catch 22
ernies
the thermals
vandals
used
lucky 7
Me First And The Gimme Gimmes
saves the day
a perfect circle
system of a down
The Get Up Kids

GorillaBearBear

30-06-2004, 04:33 PM

no one cares. Because this is a thread about rap. not punk. or rock. If you want to talk about that find the relevant thread and bugger off out of here kthnxcbyeretard.

Beef Magic

30-06-2004, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Darthwhite
rap / hiphop is shite.
Rock RULES.
why =
a) if you take away the lyrics wyou still have music.
b) you can air guitar to it.
c) it doesn't offend anyone.
d) it's been around longer.
e) it's a hell of a lot more fun.
flame away, i am wearing a flame proof vest.
actualy, that shite is bearable, when you mute it and put somthing else on... :cool:

a) if you take away the lyrics wyou still have music.
Yes, well done. Same with all music.

b) you can air guitar to it.
One Word - Sabotage

c) it doesn't offend anyone.
Actually, yes it does. Judas Priest were taken to court, Religous groups hate Mr. Manson

d) it's been around longer.
So what? Does that make Classical music the 'thing' to be into?

e) it's a hell of a lot more fun.
Hahaha, Rage Against The Machine, Beastie Boys, Cypress Hill.. are you saying the all make their music po-faced without a grin in the world?

Just fuck off yeah, or you'll get red hot pokers in places you don't like. Trust. Take your fucking narrow minded shit and go and throw some devil horns on CD:UK, along with these dippy metal girls. You too Monosyllabic. Half of those bands you listed are shit anyway. Don't try to argue with us as we know about music, yeah, just piss off.

fsh

30-06-2004, 11:06 PM

c) it doesn't offend anyone.
Umm...Manson is a metal music maker right?

Dr_nwa

30-06-2004, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Beef Magic
a) if you take away the lyrics wyou still have music.
Yes, well done. Same with all music.

b) you can air guitar to it.
One Word - Sabotage

c) it doesn't offend anyone.
Actually, yes it does. Judas Priest were taken to court, Religous groups hate Mr. Manson

d) it's been around longer.
So what? Does that make Classical music the 'thing' to be into?

e) it's a hell of a lot more fun.
Hahaha, Rage Against The Machine, Beastie Boys, Cypress Hill.. are you saying the all make their music po-faced without a grin in the world?

Just fuck off yeah, or you'll get red hot pokers in places you don't like. Trust. Take your fucking narrow minded shit and go and throw some devil horns on CD:UK, along with these dippy metal girls. You too Monosyllabic. Half of those bands you listed are shit anyway. Don't try to argue with us as we know about music, yeah, just piss off.
good to see you are still your old abusive self mr Beef.

I've been having a lot of fun with a DJ format album, A right to An Earful, Vol.1. great hip hop stuffs going on here. I know people have already mentioned format and Abdominal, but there are a pair not to be missed...

Beef Magic

01-07-2004, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by Work?
good to see you are still your old abusive self mr Beef.

Thank you. I'm also here for private parties as well. Low Low Prices for Top Quaility service!

But I digress. I had Kerrang! on just now, and the new D12 song was on there... I thought "Hmm, it looks like Eminem is taking too major a role in this band". But there is a bit right at the end which is completely different, and it seems like a very satirical piece of rap music making.

Hurrah for Irony.

Smiert Spionem

01-07-2004, 11:07 PM