The Pope Thread

[Paradigm^]

As you probably know by now - the Pope looks like he's on his last legs. Apparently he's received his Last Rites, and is refusing to go back to hospital. Now, I'm not Catholic - I'm Muslim - but the Pope is a great chap, and I for one am going to be very upset if/when he pops it :(

He's been Pope for the last 26 1/2 years, and now he's saying his goodbyes and appointing new Archbishops; he's receiving oxygen through his nose, the news reports tell me even as I type this.

I'm really upset by this...I have no idea why, but I have a huge amount of respect and fondness for him...

Sorry for rambling :(

[Patrick Moore]

I'm an atheist myself, but you cannot deny he's a great man.

[*Ooh Sparklies*]

He has been one of the more approchable popes i've heard and was well repsected. It is very sad news. I hope he has a peaceful passing.

[Cheeky Prophet]

The pope has done so many great things.

I'll be praying for him tonight, but I know that he has lived a full, great life, and death will only bring him closer to God. But even if it is his time, I'll still be upset. It's just always felt like he'd be around a lot longer.

[Private Bob]

Yeah. I'm agnostic, and the one thing I hate about religion is when it is organised but even I can't deny that Pope John Paul II has been one of the most influential and political popes of the 20th Century. He is a great man, if a tad pitiable in his last days.

[Meadow]

The first Polish Pope, though he has come under fire for comments and decisions he's made in the past, is (I make the most of being able to use the present tence here) undoubtedly a highly popular and influential figure, and a great man.

Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace. - Nunc Dimittis

[Tweekish]

Thank you John Paul, may God go with you. Wherever that may be.

[Drattigan]

All I'll say is... and I agree with Sparks:
May he have a peaceful passing. God bless.

[Cjw]

The footage of him struggling to talk is really sad :(

Rest in peace John Paul

[Zweee]

Question is, though yes all this is sad, whos up next for popedome?

[Arkwright]

It must be awful having your dying moments monitored by the media and the world in general. It makes it all seem so definite, without hope for your own life, but he has led a long and purposeful life.

I'm sure he would have hoped for a swifter ending (who wouldn't?), but at least this way he gets to know how much he is truly appreciated before he shuffles off this mortal coil.

[*Ooh Sparklies*]

They get voted in by the church, so thats up to them to decide.

[RobW]

I agree with Arkright.

I'd have requested to kill myself if I could.

:(

Rip

[Cap'n Zog]

I'll be thinking of him while sipping on my pint of 70

[Tweekish]

I agree with Arkright.

I'd have requested to kill myself if I could.

:(

Rip

Suicide is forbidden. Have you ever read the Bible?

[stav]

He better give me his hat when he goes.

[RobW]

Er, to be killed?

Is it ok to murder?

[Tweekish]

Er, to be killed?

Is it ok to murder?

No. To both of those. I dont really think this is the thread to attempt humour in.

[Twatybollocks]

Apparently he's just died. I think it is sad. No matter what your beliefs he's been such a massive icon for peace and respect for people's lives throughout several decades and was known throughout the world for this.

RIP JP 2

[stav]

He's still alive and not given me the hat yet.

[Paradigm^]

It's not been confirmed yet - they did say he was in a coma a while back and got it wrong.

[Twatybollocks]

They say his heart monitor is not showing any pips...or something...

[Oooh Yeah]

yeah someone unplugged it to charge the popes iPod. plebs...

[Paradigm^]

Where are you getting this information from?

[Twatybollocks]

Sky News

[Arkwright]

You're getting this info from the tv equivalent of a tabloid?

[Twatybollocks]

Actually they are now saying this came from the Italian Media who are reporting that he died but the Vatican say he's fine and quite fancies going for a walk.

Sorry, couldn't resist the Monty Pythin quote, they actually say his condition is getting worse but that was 2 hours ago.

[Paradigm^]

At least he's getting regular updates; all the terrestrial channels are showing me is gardening and Top of the Pops.

I wish I had News 24 or something, if only for the times like this :(

[Invader Gir]

They say his heart monitor is not showing any pips...or something...

oh no not the pope. he seemed like a nice dude. not a catholic myself but he seemed cool. well i hope he isnt dead and that sky news being shited up

[Black-Clover]

Noo the pope is cool. He will be sorely missed :(

[Thomp]

News 24 went on for three hours about it before...we will have to go through it ll when he dies... EVIL BBC CASHING IN!

Yes, it will be terrible when the Pope dies, especially here in Liverpool (apparently the leading city for Catholics in the UK). He will be sorely missed.

P.S- I hate what they've done on b3ta.com, where they've just joked about him all day

[Captain Maim]

It's very sad that he's so ill, as a Catholic I'm very sad that he's on the way out. At least he's had a very full and interesting life.

[Invader Gir]

b3ta= cruel bastards

p.s- i thought ireland was the leading place for catholics in the uk?.. oh wait the weird rebuplic thing.

[da-geezer]

Channel 4 is reporting unconfirmed news that the Pope has flatlined, i.e. no reading on the ECG. It is unconfirmed, as it's off some Italian newswire.

Bad news all round it seems.

[Bluest Light]

If he goes I'll miss him. Such a cool dude.
http://img152.exs.cx/img152/9510/popevspigeon5nt.jpg

[Bloopo]

Soooo many caption oppertunities... *sigh*

[Bluest Light]

I hope he bats death away like he bats pigeons away. In a very cute and lovable way.
:(

[Explosivo]

The way i see it, hes a great life, and has done lots for the people and have been a very good pope.

But it means us, the average joes will be able to experince, and witness the coming of a new pope. Something that most people havent experineced. So we should be happy, for the great work the pope has done for the world, and we should be happy for the great experience that will be presented to us when he leaves his post.

Please bear in mind im not catholic

[Scribe]

As life is as natural as death, we must accept that Pope John Paul II is on his last leg and will be departing from us soon. He is a great man and we will all remember him when he goes. As long as we remember him, he cant ever truly die, for memories are what bond us together for all eternity. My grandma just died, but as long as I remember her, its as if she were still here. He may not remain in the physical realm, but once he passes into the afterlife, he will be with us for all time. I have not claimed a religion for my own, but I can still recognize the Pope as a great man and leader. He will be missed, he will be remembered, and he will be loved.

[Magpie]

Not catholic.
haven't agreed with quite a few bits of Vatican Policy.

but still think the world will be a worse place without him. He has done a lot for a better world.

Can't seem to find any definate news online that he's gone but I do know they've flown in the cardinal who is supposed to perform the last rites.

Hope when he does go that it's painless.

Personally I think that it's a crying shame that Popes cannot retire. I'm sure the stress of his work has helped to speed his condition along in recent months.

[Bluest Light]

He's already been read his last rites apparently.
:(

[Discodoris]

He has been an inspired modern Pope, and a great influence on moderating religious hatred. In common with many modern religious leaders, he has been a great force for good and will not be forgotten.

[Twiz]

Personally I think that it's a crying shame that Popes cannot retire. I'm sure the stress of his work has helped to speed his condition along in recent months.

Apparently Popes are allowed to retire, but it's when they feel they can't do it anymore or something. He clearly chose not to retire. I hate my Dad being an Anglican bordering on catholicism if women Bishops are ordained(don't ask). News 24's been on all evening and it just repeats and repeats. I think Christian or not, everyone can recognise this great man. I also think Catholic or not, all Christians can mourn his passing and celebrate his life, after all, "Catholic" supposedly means "Universal", so all christians are part of the "Catholic" church in a way.

[xanthateto]

But it means us, the average joes will be able to experince, and witness the coming of a new pope. Something that most people havent experineced.

Actually he's one of the longest serving popes in a long time and has been pope for 26 years, so most people actually witness at least one new pope coming along.

I'm not Roman Catholic (catholic is different to Catholic/Roman Catholic!), but am Christian in some Protestant-like form. Although personally I don't agree with the idea of the church being organised within such strict rules as with most of today's major religions, I do believe this pope is one of the most compassionate and morally-correct (couldn't think of a better term for it) religious leaders around, even though I don't agree with some of his ideals and think he's possibly a bit too much of a traditionalist, but should still be remembered fondly.

RIP once you get there.

And yes it has been rather confusing about whether he's gone or not yet, I was looking on Wikipedia and decided to look up 'Pope' considering this current event and it already said he died today at 7:30-ish. But he hadn't.

[Meatwad]

Even though I'm an atheist, I agree that he was a great person.

It will be a shame to see him go :(

[jonffm]

He said something along the lines of how he'll never leave his post untill his god releases him.

Doing work on possibly his last day alive. Tis a strong ol' fellow.

I do hope he dies quite soon though. Whatever happens, it won't be long, and the poor guy can hardly even talk, not to mention of whole parkinsons thing.

He survived a bullet before, but I feel his time's finally up.

R.I.P to one of the greatest men of the last century.

[mysterious w]

I've heard one of the top men to be his successor is Nigerian. I am no way opposed to that happening (because that would be very silly and I'm an athiest anyway), but it would be rather strange to witness that.

[HappyJack]

He is old, he's lived a long and prosperous life, I'm not sad at all for him.

[Zoidy]

I am willing to bet a lot that he has actually already died but they are waiting for the right time to release the news to the public.

It may sound crude and cruel of me to say that but I believe that that is what may have happened, it wouldn't be surprising if they have chosen to wait until they feel that the public are ready for the news. But, he's lived a great life as far as I am aware, despite being crippled with Parkinson's disease, it will certainly be the end of an era. If anybody deserves to go to heaven, its him.

[OKO]

^ That's what I'm thinking, but dont you thinking, starving the thousands upon thousands of people outside the Vatican information, might anger alot of people?!

It certainly a shame to see a Man, like Pope John Paul fade away. But he has left the next Pope one hell of a position to fill.

Rest In Peace.

[tutacanaras]

Rest in Peace JP2
Hey...He has the same initials as weebl.
Still, The pope was a really great man.

[stav]

He's still not dead yet, and I've still not got his hat.

I don't think he wants me to have that sexy thing.

[xanthateto]

^stav: Shut up please.

To further comment, despite the pain and stuff, this is probably one of the best ways to go, having thousands of people everywhere praying for you and giving their support. Must at least make him feel popular.

[Garry2]

^stav: Shut up please.

I think you just want his hat for yourself.

[Oooh Yeah]

he said i could have his ipod, as long as i don't delete his christian rock. go figure..

[Littleshore]

DESMOND TUTU for POPE


when the other Poor Guy no longer is present on earth.

[Oooh Yeah]

what do they have planned for the funeral? going into space or something..?

interstellar religion

[Littleshore]

catapult..

Or so I have heared..

[Maple Moose]

I'm an atheist myself, but you cannot deny he's a great man.



sorry if thats from like the first page but thats how i feel too.

[BlueberryMuffin]

I'm not Catholic and as such don't agree with some of their teachings/policies, but you don't need to to see that he was a great man, and did the world a lot of good.
RIP.

[renatzu]

I'm not exactly the best informed person when it comes to Catholocism, but it's seemed to me that John Paul II did some really great things, and was definately one of the popes who filled the position well.

[Taba]

Sigh.

I can't find any respect for a man who stands for some of the things that he stands for. It seems that this is a pope-loving thread though so I won't say any more than that.

But his condition has made me research some of his policies/statements which caused me to believe that I don't really like the pope.

Not to say that it's not sad that he's dying, because it is. there are a lot of people who will be mourning him and I'm sure he will be greatly missed by most of the population. It's going to be a sad time for everyone.

[Thomp]

Why are people saying RIP? He's not dead yet, even though it is reported that he is on his last legs now.

Heart and kidney failure...BBC is STILL being EVIL and is waiting for his death...I HATE THE BBC!

[piemastermike]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4403303.stm

[Bluest Light]

Why are people saying RIP? He's not dead yet, even though it is reported that he is on his last legs now.

Heart and kidney failure...BBC is STILL being EVIL and is waiting for his death...I HATE THE BBC!

They're not waiting for his death. They're just covering it like most of the media is at the moment. They want to report it as soon as possible if/when he dies.

[Thomp]

Think about it though: they're hovering. It's unfair to keep going on about when he'll die, he might not even die. Yes, his condition is rapidly deteriorating, but it doesn't necessarily mean he'll die now, he might not go for another week. The media is hovering...I don't see ITV or Channel 4 doing this...the BBC are doing this to pull in viewers and gain money...they always do

[Lugiatm]

I read in the Express & Star this morning he's been given his last something-or-other. It's clear he's going to die, let's just hope he doesn't have Mel Gibbon Gibson as his successor.

[Jazza]

It's prefectly fine to rambling Sarchasm, I'm actually happy that you did.
I'm not a baptised but I believe in God, they encourge people how follow him not to sin (that much). :rolleyes:

The pope is a great leader, I was totally shock to hear the news, I started to pray for him.

Human will fade, one day, taken to the side of God.

[Fee]

In Ireland the poor man is revered but we know that he is going through pain and we pray for his death to be swift and painless. As a catholic I am going to pray as often as possible for a peaceful death for the pope. We can only pray that the man will be brought closer to God and pray we shall.

[Pete]

Think about it though: they're hovering. It's unfair to keep going on about when he'll die, he might not even die. Yes, his condition is rapidly deteriorating, but it doesn't necessarily mean he'll die now, he might not go for another week. The media is hovering...I don't see ITV or Channel 4 doing this...the BBC are doing this to pull in viewers and gain money...they always do

there are millions of people who would be watching the BBC's coverage. i don't think the media are hovering any more than they would usually at the vatican. and the millions of people watching would like to know exactly when the man they admire so much dies. like you wouldn't want to be told hours later...

[Nuclear Spoon]

The Vatican's just confirmed that the Pope has died, 21:37 Italian time. Great shame.

[RobW]

:(

Playing when the angels sing, tis a sad time.

[weej]

I'm no religious guy, but a death is a death. God rest his soul...

[pietastic_saz]

R.I.P. Jean-Paul, God rest his soul..... (is almost crying)

[Pixel]

May he rest in peace, as has been said many times , he is closer to his lord now..

His strength right until the end was admirable. I only hope his passing was painless.

[crab]

May he rest in peace.

[Arkwright]

[offtopic] Does anyone know why his name was changed from Karol to John Paul when he gained the papacy? I'm wondering if this is a one-off or a common part of becoming pope, casting off their old identity or some such.

[fifi_madgirl]

*crys*
rest in peeeeace!
*crys some more*

[Wahoo]

RIP John Paul II :(

[HappyJack]

[offtopic] Does anyone know why his name was changed from Karol to John Paul when he gained the papacy? I'm wondering if this is a one-off or a common part of becoming pope, casting off their old identity or some such.
all popes get their names changed

[mysterious w]

I'm glad it was quick and apprantely peaceful.

[Misanthrope]

Rest in peace John Paul, and to quote Shakespeare "My flights of angels sing thee to thy rest."

I'm not catholic, but I always respected and liked the pope, he was a great man, and did so much for the world, and it seemed to me, that he wasn't too concerned whether people were catholic or not, he was a true humanitarian in my opinion.

And he was the pope longer than I was alive, so it will be strange for me, to think of someone else there.

I hope he has found solace from his suffering.

[Shave]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4399715.stm

the link to the news article.

i was never really felt anything for the pope, but may he rest in peace (thanks dingbat).

[Dingbat]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4399715.stm

the link to the news article.

i was never really felt anything for the pope, but may he rest in piece.
I think he'd prefer to rest in peace.

RIP John Paul. Great man.

[Sigerson Holmes]

Karol changed his name to John Paul 2 as a tribute to the previous pope, I think.

I'm an agnostic myself, but may you rest in peace John Paul 2.

[xanthateto]

Hmm.. guess the BBC can breath a sigh of relief.. I genuinely think I heard a tone of annoyance earlier after they waited an hour for an update only to be told 'He is in a grave condition'.

R.I.P.

He was a very unique pope, the first Polish one and the first non-Italian in around 500 years, also the third longest serving pope. I think the longest serving one was the original, St. Peter.

Yeah, it was a tribute to the previous Pope who was in office 33 days before dying. But all popes choose themselves a new name when they are appointed.. I don't really know what was going through the mind of the one who chose 'Cletus'.

[Dr M]

R.i.p.

[Zoidy]

That's a shame.
It looked like he was in pain ever since that first throat problem. That's one heaven-bound man.

[Shave]

it was the first time apart from 9/11 and the tsunami that i've seen all the major papers have the same headline. his life and death have definitely had an impact on the whole world

[why_the_pie?]

Pope John Paul II dies 2137 local time. May he rest in peace.

[Matt]

God bless him. :(

[Maple Moose]

Im nearly in tears...im an atheist but i respect(ed) him...

R.I.P you blessed man..

[*Ooh Sparklies*]

:( this is really sad!

[Captain Maim]

He may be dead, but at least he went out in peace, without countless needles stuck in him. I am very upset by this whole thing, as I am a Catholic. To see him so unwell is a very sad thing since he was always a very fit and healthy man.

[Zoidy]

But he had Parkinson's disease, surely that corrupts the whole 'fit and healthy thing'.

He still had a fit and healthy mind I'm sure.

[Captain Maim]

Actually he was a goalie, and he liked hill walking until he fell ill a few years ago.

[Paradigm^]

What impresses me the most is that after the assasination attempt on him, he met up with, forgave, and then prayed with the guy who tried to kill him.

His dedication to his cause, travelling the world...I have so much respect for the guy.

A sad loss to the world :(

[giorgissimo]

Giovanni Paolo II did an enormous amount for the Church and for the world. God bless him. It's great to see so many tributes here (and everywhere) from different religions: he was a truly great man whether you are a Catholic or not.

May he rest in eternal peace.


edit: I forgot to add that I think he was truly inspirational. Whatever his theology, his compassion and love for humans was such an example: under his guidance the Church has started to put people back at the centre of its world. A real humanitarian.

[Littleshore]

RIP


Pope


RIP

[hoogiman]

It's sad that he died. He was lucky to last this long though, as he was ill a while ago. :(

Rest in Peace, Pope. :(

[Combine Elite]

I may be ex-Christian, but the pope that I grew up knowing about since my birth was known to many as a kind and forgiving soul.

I am glad fate was half as forgiving in not letting John Paul II suffer too much before his end. He had fulfilled his duty to the end of his life, likely with many that benefitted from his existence.

Rest in peace, to him.

[Drattigan]

God bless.

[Fox]

Rest in Peace.

[substance]

. . . but knowing these pesky Italians they'l be calling out for a new one soon. So who should be the next Pope? I think . . .
http://metropolis.japantoday.com/xmg/437/437-Music-Morrissey.jpg
Yeah, definitely. Anyone think of any other suitable Papal candidates?

[Matt]

Is that Morrisey? If so, I heartly agree. Not that I'm Catholic or anything (neo-pagan \o/)

[skoo]

One pope thread is enough, keep pope related banter in here.

(Merged the two threads)

[Jazza]

I can't bear to see anymore.
I can only say one phrase, the angel has fallen....
not only a great leader, but an angel that guide us along the road.

[Black-Clover]

R.I.P You were a great man.

[1kcattiesofgold]

I'm not Catholic, and I certainly disagreed with many of Pope John Paul II's beliefs, but today is a sad day for the people of this Earth: the one person who probably cared most for us passed on. Being in any position of power is difficult in the TV age, but Pope John Paul II did a remarkable job of it. The next pope has some big shoes to fill.

[Private Bob]

Just reading back over this thread, it's amazing how may people of different backrounds, religion, cultures and natipnalities all pay so much respect to a man who was a true humanitarian, not just for Catholics, but for the disadvantaged everywhere.

The tributes paid from the world leaders were also breathtaking. I was almost in tears reading them and I'm not exactly a devout Catholic. (Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4404971.stm))

[SPACKlick]

I'm not a catholic and am often very offended by or angry at Catholics, Catholic hierarchy and catholic propaganda, but in everything i have ever read that this pope has written or said i have found him to be an honourable man and his passing saddens me.

I will attend a church service for the first time in my life to pay respects to his passing and pray his successor is as great-a-man

[Thomp]

Goodbye to a great man. You could feel the sadness, yet relief, up here in Liverpool. It's like this isn't true.

RIP Pope John Paul II, 1920-2005

[spongmonkey]

Sigh.

I can't find any respect for a man who stands for some of the things that he stands for. It seems that this is a pope-loving thread though so I won't say any more than that.

But his condition has made me research some of his policies/statements which caused me to believe that I don't really like the pope.

Not to say that it's not sad that he's dying, because it is. there are a lot of people who will be mourning him and I'm sure he will be greatly missed by most of the population. It's going to be a sad time for everyone.
quoted for truth.
Sorry to upset the mourners further but this is something I feel has to be said.
Taba's post was the one post in this thread I whole heartedly agreed with. The man has done some good but I feel much of the problems that he has caused outway the good he has done. It was nice to see a Pope that actually made an effort to envolve himself in the world (unlike every other pope the last 500 years who locked themselves in the Vatican) but now I realise it just made the problems he caused more implementable. I feel no one man could be more responsible for the ridiculous crisis of aids in third world countries than this pope a man who instructed his church to actively enforce a LIE that Condoms do not protect against sti's. Further more his extreme pro-life opinions have caused trouble not only in devout roman catholic countries like portugal (where non Catholics who want abortions are forced to take horrific risks to obtain abortions just because the laws forbid it) but all over the world holding back voluntary Euthanasia schemes. I was rather hoping that the pope would be kept alive on life support so that he would realise the terrible suffering caused by the laws of the catholic church. But he decided not to return to hospital, voluntarily forfeiting his own life, something he was so against.
I'm not here to stir up trouble, I am attempting to educate. I personally feel indifferent to the passing of the pope, he will be replaced by another with similar views because that is who the cardinals want. But I read through over 7 pages of "I am not a roman Catholic but I thought the pope was really cool and a great man, RIP." with people not actually considering the lives lost due to his actions. I know its what the bible says and what Catholics believe but these religious laws are being actively forced on others and is causing the spread of world wide epidemics and the suffering of millions. Im not denying that the pope has done some good either, but it needs to be said, I do not believe Pope John Paul II was the "great man" people are calling him and the past couple of days watching endless reems of people saying how sad it is to lose a great man who did so much good have really got to me.
I really am sorry to all of you of the Catholic faith who have lost a leader. After all that is something like a Billion people. But people need to know.

[Paradigm^]

*prays this doesn't start a debate*

Yes, the Pope may have done, and stood for things you don't believe him. But saying he is the most responsible person for the AIDS crisis is just as ridiculous as attributing the downfall of Communism in Poland solely to him, too.

You have to remember this guy was a religious leader, and he did what far too many people don't do these days - he stood for what he believed in. I respect him for that - he believed that abortion, contraception and gay marriage was wrong, and he enforced it. Whether you agree with those beliefs or not is a different matter entirely - but I for one respect him for the fact that he upheld his beliefs. If he'd not been so conservative and instead pushed forward for change, there would have been people who'd criticised him for not upholding centuries of tradition and belief, and called him a traitor.

You may not believe in what he stood for; you may believe he is one of the worst things to happen to the modern world - but your attempts to "educate" people could very well be seen as offensive and patronising. How would you feel if someone else came up to you saying you needed to be "educated" into their way of thinking?

I'd like not to turn this thread into a debate. We have the debates section for that, no?

[Oooh Yeah]

here here! no shitting on other peoples beliefs

[spongmonkey]

I apologise if people felt at all offended. I've no Intention of "shitting on" the beliefs of others but I've seen a lot of "how great the pope was" the last couple of days. People need to remember there are two sides to every coin. I certainly dont think he was the worst thing in the world, but a lot of people seemed to be saying he was a great guy without thinking about it just because he was a religious leader. The media have thrown a lot of shit around about the amazing life of the pope without really criticising him in any way and I think this has affected peoples thinking. I certainly wasnt blaming the pope entirely for the spread of aids I was saying that if one mans actions contributed the most to the problem it would have been his.
Im really really sorry if my previous post offended anyone. It was not my intention, it was written in haste and probably didnt come across as well as one would hope, but as I said, the media and this thread have portrayed only one side of a story. Isn't it better to here the opinions of others too?
If not I apologise again and will now feck orf.

[Mozzer]

RIP John Paul II

It is quite a feat really when he unites everyone all over the world.

[substance]

I'd like to point out that the last few posts have summed up my sentiment toward the Papalcy and even most of the traditional Catholic values - it's like Dubya in America at the moment spending money on lessons for teenagers - telling them that condoms are useless and that the only protection against STIs is abstinence, lying to them about actual medical fact. This bigotry means that although it is sad that the Pope died, he was an old man like thousands of other old men that die each and every day, and therefore does not command any more of my respect than the others.
Someone just gave me a neg. reputation for my Morrissey for Pope thread. I didn't know it would end up in this one, I started it on purpose 'cos I could see this was a pope-supporting thread.

[moog]

i would like to hear more about this, although perhaps if there is going to be a debate it would be nice to stay civilised

[Tweekish]

Bigot - One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

You can hardly call the Pope a bigot, seeing as how he has visited numerous countries, met many religious leaders of all nationalities, brought the Vatican into the 21st Century (his death was announced by email and text before a statement was made) and sought to make the world a little less crappy. I fail to see the intolerance there

[substance]

This can be said elsewhere now.

[spongmonkey]

To try and repair the damage I have done by putting forward a different view can I just get the thread back on the correct non debatory rails by saying how sorry I am to people of the catholic faith (and others who feel affected) for the loss of their leader. I know I said that in my other 2 posts but I thought I should mention it again. No matter what you think of pope John Paul II he was important to a lot of people.

[substance]

Very sorry for your loss. Surprised there are so many Catholics on here. Plus sorry for being slightly different.

[tutacanaras]

To make you all feel better.
Try listening to
Monty Python - Every Sperm Is Sacred
It's what the guy stood for after all, It might cheer you up about the pope's passing.

[Mr.Gezoto]

That is such a funny song.Or you could listen to "always look on the bright side of life"(eric idles version).


May jean(john) pauls soul rest in peace

[evil monkey]

even though i am a athiest he was a great man and has sadly died...

[Combine Elite]

Edit: By the amount of disapprovals I received, I regret having said that and will take it back now. I apologize.

[Maple Moose]

He held on because he was trying to live, not make it ironic he died the day after april fools.

[Jazza]

well, a famous singer did die on April fool back 2 years ago.

[eggmuffin]

This pope is a man who instructed his church to actively enforce a LIE that Condoms do not protect against sti's. Further more his extreme pro-life opinions have caused trouble not only in devout roman catholic countries like portugal (where non Catholics who want abortions are forced to take horrific risks to obtain abortions just because the laws forbid it) but all over the world holding back voluntary Euthanasia schemes.

This is not special for this pope. This goes for most religions in general.
I don't like religion. It brings out the best in many people, but it also causes too much suffering for it to be worth it.

His death is still sad. You can't help but respect a man who believes so firmly. A man who remains so loyal, unflinching, right to the end.


How long do you think it will take before the pope-ads start popping up? Urging us to buy John Paul-perfume, John Paul-bathing suits, John Paul-all-year tires... You know how it goes.

We all think he is such a great guy, but can anyone say why he is so great?
I mean no disrespect. I adore the guy. Sorry, I adored the guy; but I know very little of the life he lived. His deeds and accomplishments, his vices and virtues.

Enlighten me, please.

[Twatybollocks]

Although it is a sad time I rekon instead of a secret ellection to find his successor they should have a reality TV show set in the Vatican and call it Pope Idol or something. That should make them more popular and give people and insight into the workings of the Vatican.

Somehow I don't think they will though...

[substance]

I might brace yourself for a hail of flame about how those comments were inappropriate. But then again you might get off lightly, the pseudo-mods might miss it.

[Taba]

Although it is a sad time I rekon instead of a secret ellection to find his successor they should have a reality TV show set in the Vatican and call it Pope Idol or something. That should make them more popular and give people and insight into the workings of the Vatican.

Somehow I don't think they will though...



that would be boss.

[tutacanaras]

A lot of us have been minused for trying to bring a bit of light to the current situation.
We all agree he was a great man and will be sorely missed just as much as you do.

[Taba]

A lot of us have been minused for trying to bring a bit of light to the current situation.
We all agree he was a great man and will be sorely missed just as much as you do.

Actually I've been minused just because I don't happen to agree that he was a great man. My opinion is different. For shame.

But anyway I just don't like some of the things he believed in, especially about homosexuality and how terrible it was and how homosexuals need help to be "corrected".


But I still think a pope reality show would be boss, anyway. It would probably be a lot more interesting than the crap they've got on already.

[Dr Weebl]

I swear I did not do the last operation...

[HappyJack]

Actually I've been minused just because I don't happen to agree that he was a great man. My opinion is different. For shame.

But anyway I just don't like some of the things he believed in, especially about homosexuality and how terrible it was and how homosexuals need help to be "corrected".


But I still think a pope reality show would be boss, anyway. It would probably be a lot more interesting than the crap they've got on already.

Homosexuality is a sin in the christian bible, how could a christian leader not be at least somewhat opposed to it?

That is not to say I condone that, I am against organized religion myself. All I mean is that the Pope's beliefe taht homosex is bad is the same as any other fanatical christian's

[Yoshiro]

I don't know much about him

big shame that he died

Shame when anyone dies

Fucking horrable world we live in.

[Zoidy]

I don't know much about him

big shame that he died

Shame when anyone dies

Fucking horrable world we live in.

http://images.quizilla.com/J/JoeyVicious/1078926271_uresEmoKid.gif

[AnimeX]

its like theres loads of religeons but even though an importent person from another religeon dies everyone is sad and nobody cant know who the pope is because he is a great man and has done so many great things for the catholics

R.I.P John Paul II

[Maple Moose]

its like theres loads of religeons but even though an importent person from another religeon dies everyone is sad and nobody cant know who the pope is because he is a great man and has done so many great things for the catholics

R.I.P John Paul II


Learn to spell; this is a thread about the pope for goat's sake.
I miss his smile(creepy as that sounds). I seen him smile and it was uplifting...now thats gone and filled with a void.. :nana:

[Garry2]

I seen him smile and it was uplifting...

You may not comment on spelling when your grammar is that bad.

[Teh MightyBoosh]

Its funny, Becuase its true...