Metal Gear Solid 4 Pictures

[eidderf]

Found these off another forum, click here. (http://www.jeux-france.com/news12348_metal-gear-solid-4-en-images.html) I don't know French but if anyone does feel free to translate the information.

[Spleen]

Whereas the play was to be presented from here a few hours in Tokyo Game Show, the Japanese magazine Famitsu takes the initiative and offers to us the first images of Metal Gear Solid 4 on Playstation 3. These visual enables us to discover a character with the growing old physique and the vestimentary style very near to Snake. Then simple blow of old man, return of a Revolver Ocelot Next-Gen way, or very an other character... it will still be necessary to have patience until Friday to know some more.

ahh google will you ever fail us... :)

[eidderf]

There are also a few new devil may cry pictures, they don't really tell you anything about the game. Dante looks a lot uglier than I used to remember. Images here. (http://www.jeux-france.com/news12349_devil-may-cry-4-se-devoile.html)

[Mat^]

wow, dante really are teh anti-sex

My guess he's past his teen-20somethingish years and has become middle aged.

Oh and just yay generally for anything MG

[Cynic]

wow, dante really are teh anti-sex

My guess he's past his teen-20somethingish years and has become middle aged.

Oh and just yay generally for anything MG

Dante has always sound like an IDIOT

No one could possibly like him.

I really hope MGS4 continues the story of MGS2. I really really want to know what happens. I was jumping around for the rest of the week when I first complete Sons of Liberty.

You see while the rest of you got annoyed by the bizzare and massive plot and cutscenes I loved it!

[Cjw]

Snake has...a tash o_O

That's presuming that is snake, obviously.

[allfalldown]

Snake has...a tash o_O

That's presuming that is snake, obviously.It looks more like Big Boss to me. But I could be wrong, I lost interest in the Metal Gear series after getting bored of MSG2.

Impressive graphics. They don't seem to be as shiny and weird as other similar-looking things I've seen.

[Youlikeyams?]

Looks...incredible.
I hope this finishes MGS2's story of the Patriots and Olga's child - and was that a Metal Gear stampeding through a city? :D

[Cjw]

I lost interest in the Metal Gear series after getting bored of MSG2.

You really really really should give 3 a go. Seriously, it's freaking fantastic.

[Alien O]

Looks...incredible.
I hope this finishes MGS2's story of the Patriots and Olga's child - and was that a Metal Gear stampeding through a city? :D

It's referred to in the series as Metal Gear Mark II. A miniature yet ferocious version of Rex, in the game they will be rampaging throughout a sprawling city in which the game takes place.

The real video footage is tomorrow and trust me, it's going to own

[Boyinabox]

Those are some seriously kick ass graphics, may make me want to carry on with the MGS games. :)

Is the guy in the second picture Otacon? He seems to have aged quite a bit.

[Alien O]

That is Otacon yes, I am quite the MGS fanboy and at a guess I would say that this occurs AT LEAST ten-fifteen years on from Metal Gear Solid 2 for various reasons:

A) Ocelot will be nearly dead so we will see what happens with Liquid

B) Kojima wants Olga's baby to be old enough to be a character. In MGS3 Ocelot was 16 and Olga said that her baby was taken away three years ago. Therefore if this time frame had occurred Olga's baby would be old enough to play a part.

C) Metal Gear Mark II, on average the development of Metal Gears has been a dozen years if not more, therefore to have Mark II a sufficient amount of time would have had to have passed.

---

These are all my opinions, not fact

[Bisyss]

It looks more like Big Boss to me. But I could be wrong, I lost interest in the Metal Gear series after getting bored of MSG2.I doubt it, as MGS3 was set in the 60's and this looks somewhat modern. My guess it that the guy could possibly be Raiden. This is only a guess, however.

[Nuclear Spoon]

It could be SS, seeing as he does have accelerated ageing...

[Mittwoch]

Links are timing out for me... when they stop being shits I'll translate the French for you :)
EDITkekeke: Heh just looked up and saw it was already done and had a translation on the page anyway. mlar


ontopic: WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU SNAKE/WHOEVER YOU USED TO BE SEXY
MGS confuses me :( nevertheless it's looking good so far.

[Cjw]

I think the only chance we'll have of seeing raiden in this game is either a small cameo or another piss take. Kojima seems to laugh at him as much as everyone else does.

[Jay]

Never really liked MGS...and this doesnt really appeal to me either...

Looks O.K. if your into that sorta thing.

[allfalldown]

I doubt it, as MGS3 was set in the 60's and this looks somewhat modern. My guess it that the guy could possibly be Raiden. This is only a guess, however.Also, I just remembered that Big Boss was dead before the first Playstation outing of MGS, so it's probably not. Then again, I could still be wrong :)

[Boyinabox]

I think the only chance we'll have of seeing raiden in this game is either a small cameo or another piss take. Kojima seems to laugh at him as much as everyone else does.

The E3 teaser certantly did take the mick out of him but I think that it did seem to indicate that he would be there in a big way. If not the main character.

[Cjw]

http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/09/14/news_6133188.html

[allfalldown]

TRAILER! (http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=1743)

It's a shame it's so small and recorded from a theatre screen-type thing. Otherwise it would be properly awesome.

[Nuclear Spoon]

Guns of the Patriots eh? Interesting...

[Alien O]

There will be the real quality trailer on Konami's site in a few hours

[Cjw]

Yeah. Can't be arsed with that other site...sooo slow.

[allfalldown]

There will be the real quality trailer on Konami's site in a few hoursAny chance of a link? I looked but I couldn't find it. It may not be up yet of course.

[Seriphyn]

According to EGM, Snake isn't that OAP there. He's got a full on beard, but is still around 40-50. Meryl's back, as is Naomi Hunter. Big Boss is also making a return as I see in some concept picture of him and his eye patch.

that guy there in the first picture is Big Boss, hence the eye mechanism.

[Cjw]

But it's the wrong eye to be big boss....

[Mat^]

The eyepatch is a device used to see better. There's even a close up during the vieo showing that it's called the "eye gear" or something.

The old guy is Solid Snake, accept it :D

[saha17]

im not a big fan of metal gear solid but the 4th one does look quiet good from what i have seen in some clips.

[allfalldown]

that guy there in the first picture is Big Boss, hence the eye mechanism.As well as what mat and Cjw said, the guy is referred to as 'Snake' all the way through the trailer, so there :p

[Youlikeyams?]

Maybe, but Big Boss is referred to as 'Snake' in MGS3 - so you never know.
I agree that he looks a bit old - but on the second image there is someone who looks uncanilly like Otacon.
It was Big Boss' right eye which was shot out - not his left, which is covered. I think that's some kind of form of the Codec - a visual nanocommunication method rather than the voice one of before. That makes perfect sense - it could act as Snake's HUD, holding all info like the Soliton radar and the like.

[eidderf]

I'm almost sure it's snake, I've watched the nine minute trailer and snake talks to the man in the picture and calls him Otacon. There are also some little things which need to be explained which were shown. I think the eyepatch maybe some sort of new technology instead of just an eyepatch. You can download a wobbly bad sound version of the trailer at the 1up website.

[Pie-Badger-Man]

I am just DAMN AMAZED! this is the only game which takes sequels into a new lvl where the main charachter is older and what happens in the last game is as relevent as this.

and also Does anything think snake looks like Stan Lee?

[Youlikeyams?]

Team Koj is doing what it always does and keeping the aces close to their chest - they wont give much away as of yet.

Huge report on the trailer here - http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143788&did=1

The 'eyepatch' is called the Solid Eye System - basically a HUD for Snake.
Otacon provides back-up in the form of a mini robot - probably the classic Metal Gear MkII, which looks strikingly similar to the new robot.

MGS4 site here - http://www.konami.jp/gs/kojima_pro/japanese/mgs4_04.html

Full title is: MGS4: Guns of the Patriots - so it's inevitable that it'll link with MGS2.

[Alien O]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=7654&type=wmv

Link to the official trailer, not cinema style but direct feed, enjoy its sexiness

[Cjw]

Kojima is gonna get an ass-whupping from sony for that trailer :p

[BlueberryMuffin]

I've never really played the other MSG games that much, but wow, from that trailer it looks amazing.

[Cerberus]

It looks really good, I see Big Boss is back, Otacon looks really lifelike too, scary O.O

[Dingbat]

It looks really good, I see Big Boss is back, Otacon looks really lifelike too, scary O.O
That's Snake.

See, what nobody seems to realise and what I'm sad to say that we will have to realise now is; Snake is *actually* really old. He's retired twice, ffs.

[Cjw]

Not to mention, he's ageing faster anyway, due to the fact he's one of big boss's clones. I can't remember what liquid says in MGS2 (Through Ocelot's arm obviously), but it's something like "In a few years, you'll just be another ageing clone of the boss"

[Coroona]

I am facing up to the fact that Snake is really old now, but still. This old Snake makes me :(

[Youlikeyams?]

Kojima is gonna get an ass-whupping from sony for that trailer :p

Apparently, Ken Kutaragi (head of SCEI) praised Kojima for the trailer actually - calling it an impressive way of demonstrating the new hardware.
OHMYGOD that trailer is amazing. :D I think it's amazing how Kojima Productions do their trailers - always very clever.
*bookmarks*


I'm certain those two-legged machines are Metal Gears - remember, in the words of the Marine Commandant in MGS2:

"Every group, state and dotcom has it's own Metal Gear."

after Ocelot released REX's specs onto the black market.
It all ties up, see?


Hahaha - love the reference to the CELL processor.



I'm guessing this is set around 2025. Here's how I think so...

1964 - Operation Snake Eater (Big Boss around 30/40 yrs old) MGS3
1997 - Outer Heaven (Solid Snake around 20-25 yrs old) Metal Gear
1999 - Zanzibar Land (Solid Snake around 25-30 yrs old) Metal Gear 2
2010 - Shadow Moses (Solid Snake around 40-45 yrs old) MGS1
2012 - Tanker (Solid Snake around 45-50 yrs old) MGS2
2012/2013 - Big Shell (Solid Snake around 45-50 yrs old)MGS2

And as Snake looks around 60, that's 10 years on from Big Shell, and he's about 45-50 years old there, so he'll be around 55-60 in 2025. :D

[Alien O]

The two legged machines are Metal Gear MkII (Mark 2), so yes, they are Metal Gears

[Nuclear Spoon]

YLY: Not forgetting that he has accelerated ageing, so he could be even older.

[Alien O]

Soon you'll just be another ageing clone of Big Boss!

At the end of MGS2

[Myo]

*gapes* Want that game so much now.

Oh, and if anyone is still confused about the whole MG story, there is a very good rundown of it here:
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/metal_gear_solid_13_plot_char.txt

[Cerberus]

I thought he would look like he was in the E3 trailer.

[Youlikeyams?]

that was just a teaser - nothing to do with the actual game.

[Cap'n Zog]

It looks good, although i suspect this game will be the end for snake, me and friends all think the scene with him coughing and injectings that stuff is him taking a drug that temporarily postpones the effects of FOXDIE

[allfalldown]

It looks good, although i suspect this game will be the end for snake, me and friends all think the scene with him coughing and injectings that stuff is him taking a drug that temporarily postpones the effects of FOXDIEI was thinking that as well, though how come it's taken ten or twenty years to catch up with Snake when it killed everyone else almost instantly?

[Cap'n Zog]

Because in MGS we find that the FOXDIE in Snake was set to go off at a random moment in the future and that there was no way of knowing when it would occur, just that it would

[Bisyss]

Because in MGS we find that the FOXDIE in Snake was set to go off at a random moment in the future and that there was no way of knowing when it would occur, just that it would
However, if I remember rightly, the effects of FOXDIE are quite sudden - it simulates a heart attack. I don't think Snake could treat himself for it as he'd be too dead to do anything, imo.

[Cerberus]

Also since when did Snake have an eyepatch? Big boss always had one now didn't he?

And also Snake does have FOXDIE in him, but Naomi claimed that it was he that could decide when he went.

[allfalldown]

Also since when did Snake have an eyepatch? Big boss always had one now didn't he?How many times has this been mentioned? It's some kind of HUD thing giving him info about the enemies.

[Pie-Badger-Man]

Links are timing out for me... when they stop being shits I'll translate the French for you :)
EDITkekeke: Heh just looked up and saw it was already done and had a translation on the page anyway. mlar


ontopic: WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU SNAKE/WHOEVER YOU USED TO BE SEXY
MGS confuses me :( nevertheless it's looking good so far.

As with all sexy men time has taken it's toll with snake...well it happened to me..atleast

[Youlikeyams?]

I think that this may be the last MGS ever - Snake's getting too old (as we can see in the trailer from the adrenaline he gives himself) and I guess he may see this as his final mission.

[Redux]

I cannot take the time to read this entire thread.

I have yet to play MGS3 so I obviously missed something.

Is the old guy seriously Snake? And if so, HOW?!

[Pie-Badger-Man]

well it is about 30 years after metal gear solid 2 and even in that snake must've been 25-30.

Metal gear solid 3 you wasnt missing much storywise but great game!

[Cerberus]

I'm just watching the trailer now, I love the twist about the FPS, and looks like old Snake can still do the buisness, I am happy now, I guess I can adjust to a moustache.

Looks like they are not telling us how long its been since Snakes last outing hence the X, They aren't going easy on us are they?

They really exhausting the fact that he is old eh? That could turn out interesting.

I like Otacons robot.

It looks really good, Im real excited now, and I like the reference to the concole war, really good.

[Dingbat]

Snake was actually about 35-40ish in MGS2. If this is significantly later, no wonder he looks like that.

[Coroona]

I think that this may be the last MGS ever - Snake's getting too old (as we can see in the trailer from the adrenaline he gives himself) and I guess he may see this as his final mission.

That injection he was giving himself was adrenaline? Is this certain or could it be something to do with foxdie?

[Youlikeyams?]

Well he seemed tired, so I assume it's adrenaline.

[Coroona]

Ah. Personally I think its probably something to with foxdie. Im wondering what Kojima et al are going to be doing with the stupid liquid snake in ocelots arm story line.

[Nuclear Spoon]

And possibly, they save Olga's child just before Raiden gets killed (god I hope he does get killed).

[Cerberus]

But I like Raiden. A bit :(

[Coroona]

Raiden is teh poop. Snake has got a classy forward roll and raiden has some stupid upside down legs akimbo roll. And that bloody hair is rubbish as well.

[Youlikeyams?]

I don't think Raiden'll appear anymore - he went off with Rose to start a family.
Aw.....

In other news...Raiden has no dongle.

[Cjw]

Raiden is definatly back in MGS4. He's in the poster that was released at e3.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/617/617218p1.html

Of course, we know how kojima loves to headfuck.

[Youlikeyams?]

Vamp, Meryl? They both 'died' apparently.

1) You shot Vamp at the end of MGS2
2) There were 2 MGS endings - get away with Otacon, or with Meryl.
You obviously opted to take Otacon as they team up in MGS2.
So how did Meryl live?

:confused:

[Nuclear Spoon]

1) I'm already dead... I can't die twice...
2) I think I heard somewhere that Kojima was going to change some of the original plot... but nobody said that Meryl actually died at the end of MGS1.

[Bloopo]

Snake escaped with her, if you remembar. Otacon survived because the facility wasn't infact bombed to buggery.

Naturally Kojima presumes you took the non-fruitless option.

[Cjw]

Vamp, Meryl? They both 'died' apparently.

1) You shot Vamp at the end of MGS2
2) There were 2 MGS endings - get away with Otacon, or with Meryl.
You obviously opted to take Otacon as they team up in MGS2.
So how did Meryl live?

1) Vamp gets shot to fuck throughout the entire game. He's "Already dead" so i presume, he can't die. Not to mention, grey fox was supposed to be dead as well, and look what happened there :p

2) I'm sure it's been documented elesewhere as well as that article that the ending where meryl lives is the true ending. Who's to say Otacon didn't get out another way?

[Cerberus]

There were 2 MGS endings - get away with Otacon, or with Meryl.
You obviously opted to take Otacon as they team up in MGS2.
So how did Meryl live?

:confused:

Because the base wasn't bombed in the end.

[Youlikeyams?]

Ah yes, I forgot that.
I think it's the other way round - Snake and Otacon were together for Philanthropy, so I think Meryl escaped by herself.
And Otacon gives him the stealth camo at the end of MGS1 - how else would he aquire it for MGS2's intro?

[2-D]

Hey this is my first ever post nad i thought it should be on probably my favorite games. I would just like to say i think that MGS4 is going to be AMAZING

[Fezwald]

The game looks very good.

Nice find, looking forward the the game

[Youlikeyams?]

I love the way it sticks the V up at Killzone's 'pre-rendered' footage :D

But of course, This is no FPS, This is MGS.

I'm off to play MGS now kthxbye :p

[Cerberus]

Yes I like that aswell, MGS really knows how to do that, remember in the E3 teaser? He dresses up as Sam Fisher, and in MGS3 were he mentions Sam and Gabe to do his job :D On another note I like Snakes new stealth suit.

[2-D]

But i Think the tash makes snake look a bit older than he would look without it but hey it still looks like it is going to be the best

[Youlikeyams?]

His suit seems a bit Raiden-ish; all tight and made of rubber. It wasn't the best sight ever looking at Raiden in his crotch-hugging outfit.

Snake's getting older because Big Boss' DNA was taken from him when he was in his late fifties - and Snake'll get older much faster, 2-D.

[Bisyss]

And Otacon gives him the stealth camo at the end of MGS1 - how else would he aquire it for MGS2's intro?
Well if he and Otacon were working together, he could have been given the suit later. Anyhow, later in the game Snake mentions that his bandanna gives him infinite ammo - what you got when you saved Meryl. If you chose the ending with Otacon, Meryl would have died and Snake would have no way of getting it.

[Cerberus]

I dread to think what Meryl looks like now, maybe she has a tache too!

[Alien O]

From now on he must be referred to as Senile Snake, I have told a few mates and it is beginning to circulate but we must all do it.

[Pie-Badger-Man]

dread to thinks what'll happen if a chaff grenade affects his pacemaker...

[Youlikeyams?]

Give it up that he's older - he's still Snake, through and through.

[prodigy69]

I've just seen the trailer for MGS4 and it looks like the next outing for snake is going to blow me away..again

I hope that with the PS3's extra power we will finally get the choice to play the game in either FPS mode or the classic format...both online would be great :)

damn I can't wait.

[Cjw]

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/images/comics/20050923.jpg

[Mat^]

^ *sigh* I knew it was getting posted :D

[Nuclear Spoon]

Dammit, I was just about to post that:p

[Beanie]

Cool, i couldnt catch onto snake eater, got bored at the first 2 gaurds

[Cerberus]

Give it up that he's older - he's still Snake, through and through.

So true, I still see him as "the man"

:notworthy

[Youlikeyams?]

This thread has died. :(
Who has any theories about the story?

[Alien O]

Well I happen to know that this game is not set that far into the future and that it is true that he only is old due to cloning malfunctions

[Seriphyn]

This thread has died. :(
Who has any theories about the story?

Looks like international use of the Metal Gears has made the world fall into crisis. Perhaps there was a treaty, like the Non Proliferation Treaty, that only the 'Big Five' can use Metal Gears, but some Middle Eastern country has created their own Metal Gears anyway, and the US was like NO DON'T DO THAT and invaded.

The end of the TGS trailer...Sony keeps on going on about their damn power. Power, power, power. What else? Sony has got to sort it out.

[Youlikeyams?]

Well considering that Konami made the trailer - not Sony - it seems that developers too are impressed with the PS3's ability for floating point calculations :p
(joking)
Seriously though, the developers must be impressed with PS3's power.

And I do think that it's set about 10-12 years after MGS2. It'll definitely follow the MGS2 storyline of the Patriots - and very probably Olga's child - and Raiden will definitely make an appearance, as suggested by the teaser posters.

My thoughts anyway. :p

[flobblem_seal]

erm... why is snake a dodgy old guy?

[Coroona]

I was going to reply to flobblem_seal's post explaining why but I cant be bothered. Go and play the last MGS games and you will know why.

[Youlikeyams?]

It's a long one, get ready!

Snake is a clone of Big Boss - star of MGS3.
Big Boss was praised and said to be the ultimate in soldiers, so DNA was extracted from him and Big Boss was cloned thrice.
Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, and Solidus Snake were born.
Liquid Snake went on to join the SAS.
Solidus ran for office in the USA.
And Solid? He went covert...

What followed was Big Boss' turning from hero soldier to cruel mercenary, and he created a nuclear-equipped walking battle tank called Metal Gear. Unlike conventional nuclear weapons which had to fire from stable land, Metal Gear could fire from any terrain, making it the best - and most desirable - nuclear weapon in the world.

FOXHOUND - ironically set up by Big Boss - sends in its best agent to tackle Big Boss, Frank Jaeger, also known as Gray Fox. Fox disappears, so Solid Snake - a FOXHOUND rookie, barely ready for combat - is dispatched to the fortress Big Boss resides in, called Outer Heaven.

Snake defeats Big Boss, and destroys Outer Heaven. He also engages in a fight to the death with Gray Fox and kills him. Mission complete, Snake disappears...

Fast forward 5 years and its 1999. A new mercenary fortress has appeared called Zanzibar Island, and the men there are holding hostage a scientist responsible for a revolutionary new fuel substitute. The leader is none other than Big Boss, and he has with him another Metal Gear. Snake kills Big Boss for sure this time, destroys Metal Gear and escapes with the scientist. Another mission done, he disappears into the Alaskan wilderness...

Its 2010. Next-generation special forces have captured the Shadow Moses weapons dismantling facility off the coast of Alaska. The forces are lead by former members of FOXHOUND, which has appeared to have disbanded. The members include Big Boss' former rival Revolver Ocelot, and none other than Liquid Snake.
For this reason, Solid Snake is called up again, but he has aged greatly. Big Boss was approaching 60 when he was cloned, hence the aging process would speed up greatly. Snake also meets Gray Fox again, kept alive by drugs and by dressing up in a metal exoskeleton. Snake kills him, but not before Fox slices off Ocelot's hand. Snake kills Liquid and destroys another Metal Gear - REX - and makes a friend in the form of Shadow Moses scientist Hal Emmerich; also known as Otacon. Snake and Otacon escape, and aren't seen for two years.
Revolver Ocelot escapes alive with a disc containing the specifications of Metal Gear REX, and distributes them worldwide, and alerts the president, who is very pleased to hear this...

2012, and a lone tanker is passing under the George Washington Bridge in New York. An invisible figure bungee-jumps to the deck, and the figure is none other than Solid Snake, who appears to have aged the equivalent of at least 5 years in the space of two. Snake - with the Codec support of Otacon - is to infiltrate this tanker and take photos of a new Metal Gear supposedly being developed by the Marine Corps as a method of destroying the copies of REX created by the distribution of its specs.
Snake gets the photos, but is spotted by a surveillance CYPHER and is all over the news within hours. The photos are also seen too, but Snake disappears as the tanker is scuttled by Revolver Ocelot, and he has Liquid's arm...

2014, and the Big Shell oil cleanup facility is put up where the tanker was sunk two years before. Enter a new FOXHOUND recruit, Raiden, who is under the confident command of Snake's former commander Colonel Roy Campbell. Also at his side via Codec is his girlfriend Rose, who is less help and more hindrance.
The Big Shell has been captured by terrorist group Dead Cell, and the main hostage is none other than the President of the United States, who took over from the previous Prez after he was held responsible for the Shadow Moses Incident.
Raiden defeats all of Dead Cell, but discovers that the Big Shell is only a placebo, a cover-up for something much bigger. The Navy has produced Arsenal Gear - a massive Metal Gear about the size of 3 city blocks, if not bigger - which carries 26 Metal Gear mass-production models for attack.
Arsenal is scuttled, but Raiden comes face to face with Solidus, AKA George Sears. Raiden defeats him, and discovers his commander was only an AI unit operated by Arsenal Gear, to try and trick Raiden into doing things the government wanted him to do - including kill Solidus.
Raiden disappears with Rose for a quiet life. Awww....

Cut to MGS4.

[flobblem_seal]

i know that, but... i though he would look like a scarred veteran cool dude.... thAAT guys just dodgy. oh, and you can call me sam =)

[Youlikeyams?]

Snake would never be scarred. He has a scar on one cheek and was also scratched by feisty Sniper Wolf in MGS1. Rawr.

Snake never gets scars except those above. :p
He's too hard for that.

[doctor_fruitbat]

Go look at the initial character sketches: http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/img_2792482.html

Raiden doens't seem to have aged much at all, and he is holding a baby. Whether it is his baby or Olga's, it does suggets that time hasn't moved on far enough for Snake to have aged that rapidly. Also note in the character sketches - Snake is there, bandana and all, a bit more grizzled but certainly not the guy in the trailer. There is another figure in the sketches who has an eyepatch - I'd say it's much more likely it's him in the vid. Also, 'Snake' uses Big Boss' CQC skills, and throws up a bullet and catches it, a la Snake Eater. And the technology doesn't look anywhere near as advanced as it should do if enough time has passed for Snake to become that old.

I wouldn't take the fact he's called Snake in the trailer too seriously - remember how Solidus was called Snake at first? And the bit with Otacon is more of a jokey section anyway; I'd trust that bit far less than the rest of the trailer.

EDIT: Also, remember how desperate Kojima was to hide the existance of Raiden, to the point that he faked scenes with Snake in, scenes he knew that Snake wouldn't actually be in? I'm thinking of the Fortune battle here. I don't trust Kojima one little bit.

[Cerberus]

He is holding a baby aswell! I thought it was a sling, plus Snake said he would take care of Olga's child, he told Raiden to leave it to him.

[Youlikeyams?]

I'd guess the poeple in the posters are:

Vamp - "I've died once, I can't die again." exploration of the NY enviroment on The Document of MGS2 also reveals Vamp standing in the scene, so it's inevitable he will return.

Meryl - It's definitely her, and she looks a bit more actiony. It's inevitable she and Snake escaped and Otacon made his own way out at the end of MGS1, as Snake points to his bandana and says "Infinite ammo" to Raiden in MGS2. Snake and Otacon obviously met up a little bit later.

Raiden - Dude still looks like a lady, but he's holding a baby. It must be his & Rose's child, since Snake said he would go after Olga's child alone at the end of MGS2. Not sure what role he will play yet.

Ocelot - I'm certain this is Ocelot, as Shinkawa's drawing (the designer of characters and other things in the whole MGS series) is very similar to his designs of Ocelot in MGS2. Still has that trademark long coat.

Snake - The daddy. It has to be him, but the genetic ageing process has taken its toll. It can't be MGS without Snake, so he has to be there in some shape or form. Look at the bandana, the grizzled chin fluff - Snake.

Otacon - Right away, it's obvious this is Otacon. He doesn't look much older, but the hair and even the way he pushes up his glasses, you can tell it's Otacon.

Eyepatch Man - Mystery Character number one. The eyepatch would lead you to believe that it is either Big Boss or Solidus, but they are both dead. The Army has the genetic remains of Big Boss, and Solidus fell off of Federal Hall and died in front of our very eyes at the end of MGS2. Why he's wearing a skin-tight spandex suit beats me - but at the moment I'm thinking this is a fourth clone of Big Boss. Either that, or he's Solidus in an MGS1-Ninja style exoskeleton, minus the headgear.

Raincoat Lady - A second mystery character. She reminds me of Naomi from MGS1, right down to the hair and the look on her face. Remember, she escaped at the end of MGS1 after being arrested for injecting Snake with the FOXDIE virus.


http://yojishinkawa.com/ - Yoji Shinkawa's site reveals something rather sad.

9/22:
- Kojima and Shinkawa confirm that MGS4 is their final project in the series.

:(

[BillyTheBubble]

so when does the game air ? anytime this year of later? i loved the past three games, cant wait for thisone :notworthy :weebl: :p

[Youlikeyams?]

PS3 isn't out stil next year, so it might be launch, but know MGS it'll be maybe up to a year after PS3's release that it goes on sale.
In other news, Kojima's blog is now in English! He talks about his like of Franz Ferdinand (the band, not the assassinated man), meeting the creator of Sin City and the recent Charlie and the Chocolate factory film.
Genius man.
http://www.blog.konami.jp/gs/hideoblog_e/

[doctor_fruitbat]

Raincoat lady looks quite similar to Olga in the character art for MGS2 (it's the hair). Unlikely, I know, but who's to say what goes on in Kojima's delightful noggin?

[Youlikeyams?]

Olga's dead.

[eidderf]

Yes but this is metal gear solid we are talking about, it isn't the kind of game that someone being dead would get their way of putting them in the game.

[Youlikeyams?]

Fair enough. :p
But even then, it's not like someone else has lost an arm or anything, so Olga has nothing to live on through except her child. Which probably can't talk yet. But still...

[Cerberus]

Kojima and Shinkawa confirm that MGS4 is their final project in the series.


Didn't they say that about MGS3? and that dosn't mean it over, there could be spin off's, sequels etc.

[Youlikeyams?]

No, Kojima said nothing about MGS3 being the final project - and he always said he'd wanted to pursue MG: Online, and hence a newer game Subsistence spawned.
Besides, MGS2's story was never tied up.

[Cerberus]

I know, and it is the best story so far.

[doctor_fruitbat]

I thought he said Snake Eater was the last one (and hence he co-produced it (or was it co-directed?) as a way of testing his successor), but then decided to take full control again for MGS4 when he realised how utterly awesome PS3 would be, and the stuff he could do with it.

[Coroona]

so when does the game air ? anytime this year of later? i loved the past three games, cant wait for thisone :notworthy :weebl: :p

OMGZ EMOTICONS! :eng101: :nana:

(I suggest beginners for you)

[Youlikeyams?]

I thought he said Snake Eater was the last one (and hence he co-produced it (or was it co-directed?) as a way of testing his successor), but then decided to take full control again for MGS4 when he realised how utterly awesome PS3 would be, and the stuff he could do with it.

Koj produced it but Sadaaki Kaneyoshi co-direcyed.

[2-D]

i just watched the trailer for it today and i thought that it was brilliant. i cannot wait untill i can snatch the first copy that i see. this game will KICK ARSE CANDLES!!

[Youlikeyams?]

Anyone got any idea who the guy with the eyepatch and weird pseudo tight suit is?