Revolution Controller: Does it live up to your expectations?

[RevJ42]

Well, we've been speculating for months on end, and it's finally here. So how does the controller compare with what we expected? Sure, there were some whack ideas about what it could be, but once again, the truth is stranger than fictino. In my opinion, we'll have to wait and see for a definitive answer, but can still argue about the little informatino we have. Enjoy!

[Jay]

I think it looks amazing...can be used in do many different ways.

I never had any idea as to what could be added to a controller, so I didnt have any ideas of my own...

[Cap'n Zog]

Completely not what i was expecting but looks good and definitely worth a shot

[renatzu]

I love it, I might have to get a Revolution just for that. It seems to piss a lot of people off, but I'm not sure why. This is what I like about Nintendo- they're not afraid to try things that might not be successful.

[Fluffy Puppy]

I don vote dat.

[captain canuck]

i'm confused... i thought the weird remote-like controller was just a joke...

... i mean, on the first site that 'revealed it' they refer to some really silly games that will be developed exclusively for it. essentially the equivalent of Pong, but with better graphics. :p

[Twiz]

It seems cool, and if the Revolution is cheap I might be buying it. But I have this horrible feeling that though this seems brilliant, it's not going to go down that well. Like the EyeToy(bad example, but you know what I mean).

[eidderf]

I think it's a very good idea, not like anything I imagined it to be. At first I thought it was just a remote but then I read up about it and I think it seems quite promising. I'm not worried about it being too different from the other consoles because look how well the DS has done for itself.

[Soapie]

Rumours have started circulating Sony are redeveloping the PS3 controller after seeing the revolution one. This either means they're going to make it look like something other than a silver banana with buttons on or they're going to rip off Nintendo.

My money (assuming that the rumour is true in the first place) is on the latter.

[flapjackboy]

Rumours have started circulating Sony are redeveloping the PS3 controller after seeing the revolution one. This either means they're going to make it look like something other than a silver banana with buttons on or they're going to rip off Nintendo.

My money (assuming that the rumour is true in the first place) is on the latter.

Well, it wouldn't be the first time they've done it and probably won't be the last. Ninty's obviously got Sony well spooked with that controller.

[monkey magic]

I'm gonna wait, then decide.
Also, all those who want to see me eat my words, I will shortly be posting on the thread where I made an ass of myself.

[Viewtiful_Duck]

http://cube.ign.com/ If the controller will have an add-on part like this. It will be the best one ever <3 And then it wont dissapoint anyone I quess :D. So what I've come to understand is this pic is IGN made but nintendo has addon part like this They just havent showed it yet :)

[Bisyss]

Personally, I think that the Revolution will live or die depending on what the developers do with the controller. Like IGN's article explored, the potenial that the controller has is huge. Let's just hope that developers don't just use it as a glorifed camera.

[monhay]

Rumours have started circulating Sony are redeveloping the PS3 controller after seeing the revolution one. This either means they're going to make it look like something other than a silver banana with buttons on or they're going to rip off Nintendo.

My money (assuming that the rumour is true in the first place) is on the latter.

I mentioned this in the other thread didn't i? :p

Its completely different from what i was expecting, but at the same time completely brilliant.

[Jay]

¬_¬ Sony better not steal any ideas...you know what Nintendo are like, they wont reveal anything until the day before it comes out otherwise. *grumble*

I like the idea of the controller cradle mind :)

[Mozzer]

¬_¬ Sony better not steal any ideas...you know what Nintendo are like, they wont reveal anything until the day before it comes out otherwise. *grumble*
I honestly think that in this generation of games consoles it's too late for anyone to nick Ninty's idea now. Both Xbox 360 and PS3 are way too far down the development line (X360 moreso) for them to work it into their machines as a major feature. The remote is safe for now... but how long until they release tacky peripherals that stink of stolen innovation? Remember who did it first kids! Stand by Nintendo!

[/patriotic speech]

[Jay]

I hope so...would be a shame if it got ripped off.

[Oooh Yeah]

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/176/screenshot1425df.jpg

sony and xbox have webcams planned which will lead to the development of webcam software and eye-toy style games.

i doubt sony or microsoft will be interested in what they will counter comment as a 'gimmick' i suspect.

then nintendo will blow everyones minds and be back in buisness.

[flapjackboy]

sony and xbox have webcams planned which will lead to the development of webcam software and eye-toy style games.

i doubt sony or microsoft will be interested in what they will counter comment as a 'gimmick' i suspect.

Heh. Pots calling the kettle black there. I seem to remember there being very few games being brought out for the Eyetoy and I can't see that changing with the new versions planned for the PS3 and 360. At least Ninty have integrated this into the full console design, not stuck it on as an afterthought in a desperate bid to generate interest in their console.

[Oooh Yeah]

yeah true, but the webcam idea looks cool.. and you forget that some of the best games are the simplest.. button mashers parappa the rapper, um jammer lammy, vib ribbon, rez.. gitaroo man..

[Lewiji]

i'm confused... i thought the weird remote-like controller was just a joke...

... i mean, on the first site that 'revealed it' they refer to some really silly games that will be developed exclusively for it. essentially the equivalent of Pong, but with better graphics. :p

Nononono. The games on that site are tech demos. IE initial "mini games" to show the ability of the controller. They won't be actual games on release.

I still think people are misinterpreting this. I don't see how anyone can fail to jizz their pants at the thought of a lightsaber duel wielding the shaft of the saber in your hand while you fight off forces of droids, or playing some fantastic instrument in front of a stadium audience while sitting in your sofa, or blasting your pals over the internet with dual-weapons, all requiring actual interaction and not just button pressing.

[Garry3]

If they release a load of porn games, I'm sure it will sell like hotcakes.

[Cynic]

It looks Godawful, all it's good for is garotting people.

If it wasn't for the fact they're releasing to late anyway I'd say that this could kill Nintendo.

However you can buy proper controlers so meh, it don't really matter.

[tom93]

It's... interesting.
I'll save my judgement for when I've tried it out.

[Lewiji]

It looks Godawful, all it's good for is garotting people.

All it's good for is garotting people and OH FUCKING YEAH INTERACTING WITH THE FUCKING 3D SPACE AROUND YOU AND HAVING THAT TRANSLATED INTO THE GAME ahem sorry slight tickle there that's got it.

[Cynic]

All it's good for is garotting people and OH FUCKING YEAH INTERACTING WITH THE FUCKING 3D SPACE AROUND YOU AND HAVING THAT TRANSLATED INTO THE GAME ahem sorry slight tickle there that's got it.

Well no shit Lewji, why didn't I think of that? Get some manners please.

Compared to the other controlers it's very unwieldy. All the buttons are over a long remote style controller making it harder to reach them and to comfortably hold the remote. I can easily imagine it flying from my hand. Added to this you can't reach anywhere near as many button at once as you can with other contollers.

[flapjackboy]

Well no shit Lewji, why didn't I think of that? Get some manners please.

Compared to the other controlers it's very unwieldy. All the buttons are over a long remote style controller making it harder to reach them and to comfortably hold the remote. I can easily imagine it flying from my hand. Added to this you can't reach anywhere near as many button at once as you can with other contollers.

Did it ever occur to you that with this control method that you don't need as many buttons as you would have on a regular controller?

As for it being unwieldy and it flying from your hand, the way it's designed you only need to make small gestures, not wild gesticulations, so unless you're a retarded chimp with epilepsy or have extraordinarily sweaty hands it is not going to be a problem.

[captain canuck]

when i was younger i noticed something that i'm willing to bet hasn't changed much over the years...

among my friends who came over to play nintendo (the NES I mean, way back in the mid 80's when many of yous weren't even a concept yet), a majority of the girls (this isn't an obscene generalization, just an observation I couldn't help making) would get all agitated and try to move the controllers off in one direction as if that would make Mario (lets say for instance it was Super Mario Bros.) move in that direction too.

What I get from this is that, indeed, that would make him move that way.

So I feel as if Nintendo is just going back to observation from 20 years ago and placating all those closet "controllers movers" out there who I'm totally sure still exist. Many are probably little kids, because kids inherently seem to have this "if I move so will it" idea.

[Dingbat]

Nononono. The games on that site are tech demos. IE initial "mini games" to show the ability of the controller. They won't be actual games on release.

I still think people are misinterpreting this. I don't see how anyone can fail to jizz their pants at the thought of a lightsaber duel wielding the shaft of the saber in your hand while you fight off forces of droids, or playing some fantastic instrument in front of a stadium audience while sitting in your sofa, or blasting your pals over the internet with dual-weapons, all requiring actual interaction and not just button pressing.
One of my friends mentioned the lightsabre thing. I nearly came.

Then I remembered the word 'Zelda', thought of the Master Sword and :jizz:ed in my pants.

[randomfu]

Is it just me, or do japanese hand models have really small hands?

[Cynic]

Did it ever occur to you that with this control method that you don't need as many buttons as you would have on a regular controller?
.

How does that work? I have plenty of games where I use all the buttons.

The number of buttons used is decided by the game's design, not by the person who built the controller.


Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems so unatural and unwieldy.

[Splush]

How does that work? I have plenty of games where I use all the buttons.

The number of buttons used is decided by the game's design, not by the person who built the controller.


Maybe I'm wrong, but it just seems so unatural and unwieldy.
But hopefully Revolution games will be games specifically designed for that control system, rather than cross-platform games akwardly forced into it.

[Meatwad]

I think it's a terrible idea. I mean, all the buttons on all of the console controllers are on one side for a reason. One hand to move around, and one hand to do everything else. Now you have to move your other hand up and down the damn thing to do anything right.

Nintendo, you fail. Everything else you did was pretty good in my opinion, but this one just sucks.

[El Kabong]

Like everything else Nintendo, you will either love the controller or hate it. I personally love it. At least Nintendo is doing something to seperate their next-gen system from current systems besides beefing up the graphics...

[renatzu]

I think it's a terrible idea. I mean, all the buttons on all of the console controllers are on one side for a reason. One hand to move around, and one hand to do everything else. Now you have to move your other hand up and down the damn thing to do anything right.

Nintendo, you fail. Everything else you did was pretty good in my opinion, but this one just sucks.
I think you need to read this (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3143782), written by someone who actually got to use it.

There are 2 sets of A and B buttons, which aren't used at the same time. You hold it like a remote with you thumb over the A button and D-pad. There is a B button on the back like the Z button from the N64. You can also attach a wire with a control stick to be held in your left hand.
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2308865

That right there is one set of controls- D-Pad, control stick, A button, and B button (I'm assuming you'll be able to accomplish a lot just by hand movements).

I guess you're talking about those 2 small A and B buttons on the bottom. They're not meant to be used with everything else (that would cause one hell of a hand cramp). What happens is that you can rotate the controller 90 degrees and it becomes like the old NES controller, with which you can play NES games. It's 2 controllers in 1.

[Maple Moose]

At first I was undecided, Then I read more about it. Now I love the concept. This gives more control to the gamer and I will definatly be interested in a Revolution.

[captain canuck]

...it makes total sense to me that the controller has a kind of remote-like shape to it, now. As mentioned a few times before, if NES games can be played on it, then it seems totally reasonable to assume the controller would at least somewhat resemble those 'ancient' pads.

I just couldn't see any point whatsoever to the use of one of these newfangled style ergonomic controllers when playing an NES game - barring the obvious anachronism, it just wouldn't "feel" right in a gameplay sense. But I'm speaking as someone who owned and played theirs constantly for nearly a decade. So I'm naturally biased.

[Lewiji]

There are 4 buttons, as there are also 2 triggers on the side of the control stick.

If you look at the side view etc, it is perfectly ergonermic.

I just can't seem to grasp that there are gamers out there who aren't sexweeing for this controller. It's a huge step forward and guess what people? Nintendo haven't just brought out some "different" controller to be gimmicky and "different". Do you really think they'd risk something like this? They've tested it on thousands of employees I'm guessing, and considering everybody who's tried one on the internet has said it's worked really well, do you not think you're just being overly sceptical/cautious consumerish?

Nuff said.

[Viewtiful_Duck]

Just think about the possibilities... What I just thought: An online FPS.. Like Metroid or something It would be like a miks of House of the dead and regular fps:s.. Zomg. Im kinda getting thrilled of this new controller. Its so new, even it looks like remote controller. It hs Add-on parts ! O/

[monkey magic]

Is it me, or does the above post make very little sense? Maybe I'm a stickler for proper spelling, punctuation etc. anyway...
Nintendo said early on that they wanted a system that non-gamers could feel comfortable with, so here we are, less buttons and actual movement as a control, now anyone can play. (except people with motornuerons, they obviously can't, and I for one feel bad for them.)
But, imagine, if you will, a FPS over WiFi in which you are using... wait for it.
Dual pistols, by aiming separately with TWO CONTROLLERS! That would rock, although you wouldn't be able to move forward or back or whatever, so maybe an on-rails shooter, using dual pistols, by aiming separately wi...[/TRAILOFF]
Also, the lightsaber idea made me jizz, but wouldn't the controller need to register even when pointing upwards, because you don't hold a lightsaber horizontal, do you?

[Simon]

The person who said it was what they expected is talking so much shit they should live in a field. In my opinion, it could work, but its kind of weird. Gonna take a lot for me to have faith in the Revolution anyway. Im no fanboy, but Nintendo will still try to appeal to the younger audience, meaning their games wont cut the cheese.

[Frenchie]

This controller rules

[Soapie]

Is it me, or does the above post make very little sense? Maybe I'm a stickler for proper spelling, punctuation etc. anyway...
Nintendo said early on that they wanted a system that non-gamers could feel comfortable with, so here we are, less buttons and actual movement as a control, now anyone can play. (except people with motornuerons, they obviously can't, and I for one feel bad for them.)
But, imagine, if you will, a FPS over WiFi in which you are using... wait for it.
Dual pistols, by aiming separately with TWO CONTROLLERS! That would rock, although you wouldn't be able to move forward or back or whatever, so maybe an on-rails shooter, using dual pistols, by aiming separately wi...[/TRAILOFF]
Also, the lightsaber idea made me jizz, but wouldn't the controller need to register even when pointing upwards, because you don't hold a lightsaber horizontal, do you?1) You mean people with Motor Neurone Disease. Everyone has motor neurones, they're the neurones which cause actions and blah blah blah.
2) "I, for one, feel bad for them" That is such a horrible pun.

Anyway, I am looking forward to this controller and console. Might be the first one I buy since N64.

[Mezmerize]

It looks better than i was expecting.... i really didn't know what to think, then i saw it and i was amazed. Now lets see if it does the trick

[captain canuck]

...Nintendo will still try to appeal to the younger audience...

the 'younger audience' that industries, even gaming, target are what will ensure longevity. any company that ignores it ignores the built in audience of former kids playing on into adulthood.

the logic that gamers now are older than they've ever been doesn't work, because most of 'em started years ago when they were kids. many gamers now fondly remember playing what apparently could qualify as 'kids games' now way back when they got their first system - and if that happened to be the NES, then why the heck not attempt to appeal to kids now just like they did twenty years ago with 'you'?

i'm not, by any means, saying all games should have kids in mind - but the idea that nintendo focuses too much on kids is laughable at best. it haunted the N64 so much that's probably what, in the end, did it in. but it wasn't that true. it's even less true with the Gamecube, and yet I still hear it all the time. and i'mn sure it will be even less true for the Rev, but it will come up far more often than need be, anyway.

[Sebastian]

OMG , it has two A buttons What are we gonna do? And which one will rotate the block on Tetris?!

[captain canuck]

by odd coincidence, i just started playing that...

curse my lazy genes. i have homework.

(Revolution = great potential time-waster, i.e. MUST HAVE!)

[Lewiji]

OMG , it has two A buttons What are we gonna do? And which one will rotate the block on Tetris?!

They both do the fucking same thing, except one is for when using it in motion mode and one is for "NES controller" mode.

[Seriphyn]

OK, this controller really is going to bring a revolution if it is, like, motion sensory stuff.

But what about multi-format games? It looks like the Revolution will have its own set of games and not a single game from another platform (or maybe an altered version of that game or something).

You see what I'm saying? I think the Revolution will be first-party games only.

[Lewiji]

OK, this controller really is going to bring a revolution if it is, like, motion sensory stuff.

But what about multi-format games? It looks like the Revolution will have its own set of games and not a single game from another platform (or maybe an altered version of that game or something).

You see what I'm saying? I think the Revolution will be first-party games only.

Read the other thread.

There's also a normal-controller "shell" which the remote plugs into.

[Simon]

Well sorry captain but the Gamecube is. How many adult games has it got? Very few, and none that I know of that are exclusive to it.

[flapjackboy]

But what about multi-format games?

There will be a shell available that will transform the revvy controller into a more conventional controller for cross-platform titles.

[Nocashvalue]

I went to alton towers today.
There was a thing in the arcade.
You had a sword, and you chopped zombies with it.
Thru the air.
Mm, insight into revolution. And it was damn fun. Even though I sucked at it :/

[Zackron Goldago]

Well sorry captain but the Gamecube is. How many adult games has it got? Very few, and none that I know of that are exclusive to it.

A game doesnt have to be aimed at adults to be good. Pikmin 2 was sickeningly cutesy but was the most enjoyable gaming experience I had on the console, it has such depth and great gameplay. Mario Sunshine was brilliant I think, often underrated, and then Windwaker looks like a cartoon but is fantastic too.

On the topic of the controller, I just can't wait.

[Cjw]

I went to alton towers today.
There was a thing in the arcade.
You had a sword, and you chopped zombies with it.
Thru the air.

I remember that...twas fun. Though some wanker had fucked the screen up by hitting it. :rolleyes:

[Simon]

A game doesnt have to be aimed at adults to be good. Pikmin 2 was sickeningly cutesy but was the most enjoyable gaming experience I had on the console, it has such depth and great gameplay. Mario Sunshine was brilliant I think, often underrated, and then Windwaker looks like a cartoon but is fantastic too.

On the topic of the controller, I just can't wait.

Didnt say games had to be adult, I'm just saying I wont buy a console that doesnt have many adult games. I love things like Sonic, but I also love GTA etc. I want to have both, so I will probably choose the 360, which will give me a good mix.

[Splush]

I won't even glance at a game if I can't kill hookers in it.

Killing hookers is very much what I am about.

[Dingbat]

Well sorry captain but the Gamecube is. How many adult games has it got? Very few, and none that I know of that are exclusive to it.
Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Zelda: Twilight Princess, MGS: Twin Snakes, Eternal Darkness, Resident Evil 4 ('til next year), Resident Evil (Reworked).

People are too busy with preconceived ideas to pay attention. :rolleyes:

[Simon]

Metroid and Zelda are hardly adult. And even so, I said a few, and you only named a few. I could name far more adult games on PS2 or Xbox. And if I am not mistaken RE and MGS arent exclusive anymore, or wont be for long. Dont know of eternal darkness.

[flapjackboy]

Didnt say games had to be adult, I'm just saying I wont buy a console that doesnt have many adult games. I love things like Sonic, but I also love GTA etc. I want to have both, so I will probably choose the 360, which will give me a good mix.

I too love GTA, but I'd much rather play the PC version as it has much greater longevity compared to the PS2 version. Why? Mods, plain and simple. The PC versions can be modded to death, whereas when you've finished the PS2 version, it gets pretty boring after a while. Then there's possibly the best GTA mod out there:

Multi Theft Auto. Yep, that's right, online multiplayer GTA. Just try doing that on a PS2.

[Simon]

I prefer PC GTA simply because I think it plays better. Nuff said.

[Dingbat]

Metroid and Zelda are hardly adult. And even so, I said a few, and you only named a few. I could name far more adult games on PS2 or Xbox. And if I am not mistaken RE and MGS arent exclusive anymore, or wont be for long. Dont know of eternal darkness.
Twin Snakes will always be exclusive. Resi Reworked too. Metroid, not adult? Piss off. There's an argument for Zelda but Metroid is a shooter.

[fsh]

Guys, you know you can play Starcraft on the Revolution right? Or another strategy game you play (Red Alert, Age of Empires) whatever. It's basically a mouse. I think this is the best idea for a console.

[Chassisbot]

Twin Snakes will always be exclusive. Resi Reworked too. Metroid, not adult? Piss off. There's an argument for Zelda but Metroid is a shooter.

I was scared of Metroid Prime for a period of 3 years. Mainly because of the baby sheegoths. So fuck off simon, theres a good man.

[Jay]

The full grown ones were much worse...the beams didn't work on them *cries*

[freaky_dug]

Its going to stage a revolution and rule the universe! It may even spread its pwoer into other dimensions! I am nearly wtting myself with anticipation.

[Slurp]

i keep on saying all hail the revolution to younger kids at school-some of them look genuinely worried

[Woloch]

I think this is an it-can-go-one-way-or-the-other situation.

scenario one: designers embrace it with open arms, and fill the game stores with brilliant new aplicaitons of the techonology.

scenario two: not enough designers want to try something other than halo15 or GTA 90, so they either abandon the hardware or simply make a clone of another more popular game using it.

my worry is that the "sequel mania" which has gripped the gaming industry may be here to stay, at least for a while, and may lead to people ignoring new concepts in return for the-same-old-shit style gameplay. Even if it does do well, the device may be used entirely for cookie cutter shooter games or RPGs where you can swing the remote to simulate slashing. That'd get boring mighty quick.

[monkey magic]

1) You mean people with Motor Neurone Disease. Everyone has motor neurones, they're the neurones which cause actions and blah blah blah.
2) "I, for one, feel bad for them" That is such a horrible pun.
1)Alright fine motor neuron disease
2) if you read it as a pun thats your perogative, however I still can't see one even after you pointed it out. Unless it's the feeling thing, in which case you were actually wrong.

[Yorkshire Tea]

I can just imagine Soul Calibur 4 being controlled by the motion sensors. Oh, that would utterly rock my socks.

[Simon]

Twin Snakes will always be exclusive. Resi Reworked too. Metroid, not adult? Piss off. There's an argument for Zelda but Metroid is a shooter.

Its a 12. How can a 12 be adult? 15 maybe. And twin snakes is a remake of the original MGS, what an exclusive that is :rolleyes:

[monkey magic]

Its a 12. How can a 12 be adult? 15 maybe. And twin snakes is a remake of the original MGS, what an exclusive that is :rolleyes:
1) Metroid is adult as you shoot EVERYTHING, even plants that don't do anything, eventually it becomes 'shoot anything that moves, then concentrate on things that don't' Whereas GTA fro example is 'shoot that hooker, oh no the police! run away!' So technically Metroid deserves it's adult title more than GTA (if there wasn't the drugs, sex, racism, sodomy etc.)
2) Whilst I intend to sell my copy of Twin Snakes, or exchange for credit, it is still far superior to the original.
I think I may have to join Chassisbot and Dingbat in a constant defensive position, here. *steps back, raises shield inscribed with 'fuck you, f4nb0y!'*