ghostly going ons

[mr jones]

Howdy fellow formites... long time since i posted last but, well, you know,

anyway, im after a bit of advice from you. I've tried asking my friends and they just say -ohhh dont mess with that - It's not that i want to mess, im just intressted...

right, so, to the point... ive moved to a new house about 6 months ago. i say 'new' 'house', it was built in the 1800's and it wasn't always a house, it used to be a tin mine. since liviing here strange things have happened. i've ignored it, putting it down to my mind slipping, or playing tricks, but the last few weeks things have got worse and other people have experianced it.

poeple think im being silly when i say the house is haunted but i really beileve its true. things go missing and turn up in strange places. doors open and shut on there own. evan locked, big 7ft solid wood doors swing open. voices have been heard in the dining room, people are heard walking up and down stairs, some one walks round the outside of the house jangeling keys, i could tell stories all day...

Just to be sure i wasnt going crazy i've had a few different people come round, stay up with me and see what happens. All of them were convienced by the end of the night something was in the house with us. my best friend is now to scared to come over. this isnt good!
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enough rambling, what i really want is help on 'connecting' with these spirits, but in a 'non-threating' way. its something i want to do alone and im just, i suspose, want to talk to these 'people' find out why their here and wh they are. im not looking to mess with the occult or anything like that, but if im going to have to share a house with these poeple i want to know a bit about them!

I've never had much dealings with this kind of thing before and want to know how to 'approach' these people. any ideas and suggestions would be most handy. thank you xxx

(sorry for length... i ramble when i get going )

[strawberry jam]

first: as scientifically proven, ghosts cannot exist.
second: objects cannot move by themselves (also proven)
third: if the locks are old, they might not work properly and if you lock it it's not really locked, the wind can make doors open and shut
fourth: wind can make funny noises

[Tweekish]

Hey Mr Jones, I havent seen you on here for aaaaaaaaaaages :)

Have you researched the history of the house? That could be a good start. See if, while it was part of a tin mine, did anybody die there. There are lots and lots of paranormal investigators around (just flick on the TV and there is bound to be a reality haunting show on) but as to how to contact them I have no idea. Try googling it. They may be able to give you some advice. If you are really lucky, they may want to come round and experience this for themselves.

There is obviously something, but I have no idea how you would go about making contact. All I would say is dont do anything without checking it our properly first.

[Glitch]

Do you have any photos/videos?

[Tweekish]

I found a how to conduct a ghost hunt (http://wintersteel.homestead.com/Information.html) page, it has some FAQs attached too.

Electromagnetic Voice Phenomenon (EVP) is a newer method of ghost research. It entails bringing a blank tape never before used, and leaving it to record in a haunted area. A ghost investigator can ask questions to a ghost and pause to allow the ghost to answer, or a ghost hunter can invite the ghost to speak freely and leave the tape recorder recording as all others leave the area. By leaving the tape recorder this alone, this removes the possibilities of human tampering, of the recorder picking up stray sounds and whispers. It can also be used to determine if a noise is supernatural or natural in origin ( i.e., if the ghostly knockings heard by the residence are really the furnace turning on, etc. ).

Tape it. Or video it.

EDIT - Reading these websites has now thoroughly creeped me out. I have never been a firm believer in ghosts or poltergeists but some of the photos are just plain scary.... I wont sleep tonight!

[MichaelJackson]

....There are lots and lots of paranormal investigators around (just flick on the TV and there is bound to be a reality haunting show on).....
I would try to get on TV if I were you. It's bad situation, as a human you should try to get rich off it.
There are loads of freaks out there who would pay to stay there. There.

[Shave]

second: objects cannot move by themselves (also proven)


they're not moving by themselves, it's the ghosts.

and science isn't always right

[luttman23]

first: as scientifically proven, ghosts cannot exist.

Not true, we only usually percieve 4 of the 11 dimensions... People have different ideas about what ghosts are anyway, some say they are sentient, some say they are recordings etc.

I consider myself a skeptic, but when my friend Marc and I experienced 1p coins falling from the ceiling - I decided that there must be a hell of a lot we still don't understand about the universe. Marc decided to never stop at my house again. A lot of things have happened over the years in that house that I cannot satisfactorally explain, but that does not mean there isn't a scientific explanation.

IE: E=MC2 was always true, even before einstien realised it.

[crab]

first: as scientifically proven, ghosts cannot exist.
second: objects cannot move by themselves (also proven)
third: if the locks are old, they might not work properly and if you lock it it's not really locked, the wind can make doors open and shut
fourth: wind can make funny noises

It makes me laugh when people say "ghosts/psi/that stuff can't exist! It's unscientific!" You know, unscientific? You know, like, discarding evidence out of hand?

Man, that bugs me. Going off on a tangent slightly, but everyone goes "Oh, science says psi can't exist." There's been testable evidence of psi, particularly micro-TK and pyrokinesis. If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts. If you have a haunted place, don't just go "don't be silly, it can't be haunted". Ghosthunt. The conventional and most scientific way to disprove something is to test the null hypothesis - that is to say, what you are trying to disprove. If you're trying to disprove haunting, good. Now try to prove it as hard as you can, and if you can't, provide that as evidence. Before you go around pointing fingers and saying "That's not conventional, so it's unscientific", sheck your facts, for a start, then get a good definition of science, because science has fuck all to do with any kind of "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude, it's all to do with changing. Thousands of years ago, we thought the earth was flat, and persecuted those who thought it wasn't, so how arrogant is it to say "our science is right"? If that's science, it deserves of the name "the secular religion". We have an opportunity to gather evidence on the paranormal - don't try to quash it. To analogise, and maybe extend this point a little too far, what if someone was trying to suppress research on catalisation purposes of low reactivity metals? Would that be right? No. So how is it better to suppress the paranormal research? I'm sorry, this rant is already too long. If you really want to continue this, please feel free to make a thread in debates.

On topic, some advice:

Ghosts could often create micro-TK. A good test is leafing out flour, or sugar - if it's disturbed, often with a trench or small craters, it could indicate paranormal activity - however, shoe/footprints are usually someone forgetting where the flour was laid out!

EVP is probably a good indicator of paranormal activity - but make sure your people are quiet and it's an absolutely new tape! It's often best to do EVP on your own, especially if certain members of your group are a bit chatty.

I wish you good luck, whatever your results.

[strawberry jam]

I just don't believe in ghosts because I have never seen one or experienced them in any other way.

[maw3193]

This may sound dumb, but a/s/l?
It's been proven that teenage girls are the most likely to cause poltergeists, something about being the most potently psychic. Poltergeists being subconscious characters projecting from the psyche. Meh.

Hauntings are 'psychic imprints' on the environment that most often happen during traumatic events. So, yeah, research the mine for fatal incidents, etc.

The idea of spirits would be similar to the haunting, but stronger, I suppose.

Anyway, I did some research (amateur necromancer), and you could always try talking to these spirits.

[nightyamaha]

Firstly, remember that ghosts aren't neccesarily bad. People view ghosts as evil, but they aren't, except for poltergiests. I'm not sure wether to believe in ghosts or not. I've seen supernatural things myself, but I'm not sure what they are.
Secondly, try leaving a casette recorder or something out at night, it might pick up voices.
THirdly, contact the media, they love that stuff. YOu could make quite a bit of cash and fame by gerring your house into a supernatural invesigation program

[Lagmeister]

I wish people wouldnt always run up and say science says that it doesnt exist to everything they dont like, to quote one of the more idiotic ones "Science says God does not exist", where does it say, where is the theory that prooves beyond doubt that god does not exist? Science does not provide cold hard facts as it is so commonly percieved, it is a tool, a tool to help explain what is going on what makes something do some random movement, they all are still just theories, they are never called absolute facts, they do a pretty good job of explaining whats going on, but we can never be completely 100% sure that its true, you have to accept that there are a feck of a lot of things that we dont know about on this world, we just try and put order and reason to something, it makes us feel safer.

[RobW]

Is there any way you can get in touch with a median, probably to hold a séance if you want to get in touch with ghosts without provoking them?

I'd also recommend you buy or lend a book from somewhere about the unexplained or whatever you wish to call it, as it'll probably help you understand everything more. Look for a message board that specialises in the unexplained and try asking there as well if you're not getting far with this thread.


I just don't believe in ghosts because I have never seen one or experienced them in any other way.

I guess you can say that but there's been lots of reports of ghosts so some people have to be serious don't they? mrjones definitely is here in my opinion. Put yourself in her place.

[mr jones]

well everybody thank you for your advice :) i've decided to hold a séance as well as setting up differnet bits and pieces to see if any thing happens! motion webcams, flour, and such like.
Not too sure when i'll be doing this but will be within the next few days, i'll keep you posted on anything i find!

[Jay]

first: as scientifically proven, ghosts cannot exist Erm...since when was that proven?

I love paranormal things so this make me smile...séance's look abit too freaky for me mind.

*waits for finding*

[1kcattiesofgold]

Folklore in these parts say that ghosts haunt an area specific to their death, and people in that area can see them. However, if you aren't a target of their revenge (the reason why their spirit is bound to the area) there is no need to fear them. They won't hurt you because they have too much focus on their goal. So weird things may happen but you shouldn't be concerned. Instead you should try to talk with the ghosts and find out if you can help them in their goal so they go away.

[Stringy Pete]

HahahahahahahhahahGhostshahahahahahahaha

My apologies, something about "Help me find ghosts" which set off a giggle switch in my hungover brain.

Oh, and welcome back Mr Jones