John Titor - Time Traveler??

[Ked]

Whilst looking through mxtabs.net, I found a website mentioned in the Politics forum called www.johntitor.com

I looked through most of the site, and I found what had been said quite interesting. Although, I don't quite know whether it could have been the truth or just a bunch of lies put together by some old loony man.

Take a look through it if you have some spare time, and debate whether it could be true or not.

I don't know whether this should be in the Look what I found forum or Debates forum, but since it does have some political reference in it, I decided to put it in Debates. If this is in the incorrect forum, can some moderator move it please?

[crazyfool]

hmm, i think that this is just some attention whore playing a prank. but then again, i am a fool. . .

[Dr-Electro]

Ked, talk nice about us loony old men. ;)

I think John Titor is an attention whore. I think he is so full of bullshit he makes Bush look honest. This may generate some debate, but if it doesn't we'll just let it rest in peace.

Crazyfool, you are not just a fool, you are Crazyfool. Accept no imitations.

[rabid anarchist]

we will see.
ok, if hes right there will be a civil war in the Us in 2005.
and WW3 in 2015 killing about 3 million people.

[Death]

well it just seems like an elaborate hoax but it made for very interesting reading. the guy who did it obviously isnt a cheeky kid playing a yet cheekier prank. thanks for showing us the webby i liked it.

[PieKaos]

I personally think it's crap. IF he really was from the future, why would he waste his time answering questions of normal people on the Internet? Why not go to the White House or Parliament or whatever and try to STOP what happens? Sorry, but skeptical doesn't BEGIN to describe my feelings for this.

[Death]

he explains why not so much he wants the war to happen but that he belives that wiping out half the earths population wouldnt be such a bad thing. but i cant see any civil war taking place in 2 years so we will see.

[PoofBird]

if he would prevent the future from happening, he'd create an enormous time paradox


WWIII breaks out (plus other stuff), he goes back in time to prevent it: --> WWIII never happens ---> the John Titor of that timeline never feels the need to go back in time to prevent a war he never heard of ---> WWIII happens ---> John Titor goes back in time ---> WWIII doesn't happen ---> John Titor stays home ---> you get the point.

of course the story is a bunch of crap. but if it were true, hanging around on an internet forum is the wiser thing to do. Mingling with important stuff is it (even if they'd believe you)

[SunFlower]

Hurrah for time paradoxes \o/

But Poofbird, you do make a simplification there in stating there is only one timeline with the outcomes no war or yeah war!
There are philosophers who believe that there are unimaginable amounts of timelines out there originating all the time as other possibilities...
Can't really think about that, makes my head go strange but that would mean he only makes some more timelines originate without actually bothering the one he came from :) Or something.

*Runs of to watch more Star Trek*

[PoofBird]

yes, it is a simplification,

still, mingling would have massive effects...

not everyone would be happy with that, even if it meant preventing a war.

someone would stop him, as the technology exists.

[SunFlower]

Well not if you are considering the multiple timelines theory. Then he would simply be part of all the possibilities already existing. He wouldn't destort anything if you see what I mean.

But considering it is a little far-fetched I think about the one timeline. And then indeed it is just not possible due to the paradox. And as you say if it might be possible one day they should be smart enough not to travel back and so undermine the way they became to exist. And if they would I am sure they would launch all kinds of rescue partys but we all know thatcan't go right... :nana:
Hurrah from stupid time travelling films!

[PoofBird]

i'm not a big multiple timeline fan...

it sounds like a thought-construction to get rid of the paradox. That's charming, but the paradoxes are what makes timetraveling interesting (to me)

[Weeman]

Let's just assume for a second he is a time traveller, just assume that he creates a site, and people believe him. Then, by reading his predictions, they are late for work, they get fired, they fail to do an important job, the company goes under.

And that goes on until something awfl is caused, which is why I would never travel back even if I have the option.

[Pod]

i just read all of that site.
by the way , he didnt create it :) some random fan did :D

[Dwarfer_stu]

I read the whole site. If he's not a real time traveller, he's a genious.

However there are some glitches... he says that when he travels backwards through time he also goes into another timeline (or other reality, parralel universe). To a timeline where he did go back to the past.

For instance, the grandfather paradox wouldnt actually happen here... if he went backwards in time and killed his grandfather, he would still exist because in his reality his grandfather wasn't killed, geddit?

And so, why would the people he works for send him back through time to do an important mission for them if they know he'll never come back? He'll be in a parralel universe.

*brain does a quick somersault in his head*

[Pod]

Originally posted by Dwarfer_stu
I read the whole site. If he's not a real time traveller, he's a genious.

However there are some glitches... he says that when he travels backwards through time he also goes into another timeline (or other reality, parralel universe). To a timeline where he did go back to the past.

For instance, the grandfather paradox wouldnt actually happen here... if he went backwards in time and killed his grandfather, he would still exist because in his reality his grandfather wasn't killed, geddit?

And so, why would the people he works for send him back through time to do an important mission for them if they know he'll never come back? He'll be in a parralel universe.

*brain does a quick somersault in his head*

he actually explained this. as theres only a 2.5% deviation on his trip, when he gets back the world will be from 0 - 2.5% different.... which isnt a lot! :E so its highly likely that thier worldline (timeline, whatever) also sent back someone to get the device, and as shuch, he completes the mission for this timeline, while the one they sent back will also complete it for another timeline ETC. :)

[Mat^]

i think i get what your saying

so he would still exist because he would have to be alive to kill his grandfather:confused: yep this is gonna take some time and a family bag of prozac to cure

[Pod]

its not *HIS* Grandfarther....

[Garrett]

John Titor is a steaming pile of dung, IMO. I also would like to say that I found that whole time paradox bit very entertaining.