Give Us Some Help Would You Mate?

[Markeh]

can someone give me some ideas for parts for a pc that im going to build. If you could include name, price and where to buy that would be great. if you want to do me a whole spec that would be appreciated but if you want to suggest individual parts that would be good too.

i want to spend about £700.

Thanks in advance. all suggestions will be rated +

[Dr-Electro]

Buy Dell direct and save. I'm not joking when I tell you that you can't go wrong buying a new factory direct system from Dell. I don't think, unless you know where all the golden eggs are, that you can build a comparable system for under 700 dollars, pouds or rupies.

Dell always has at least one current system, not a close out, not a twenty-year-old IBM3270 refit, but a brand new system with everything on it including Bluebonnet margarine. (That's a Texas brand, by the way.)

Take a looky at http://www.dell.com and see. There should be a new computer, monitor included, on sale for under $500. That's no fluke, there is always something close to that. You may have to complete a mail-in rebate to get down to that price, but so what, it's a good deal. You also always get a three-year warranty, minimum. Can't get that with off-the-shelf odds and ends.

Check for free upgrades. You can almost always get a bigger hard drive, more RAM and other goodies for free, just by asking for them.

If anyone can top that for a home-built, make sure every single piece of the homebuilt is top quality.

[Stringy Pete]

Buy everything from www.overclockers.co.uk

I would sit here and type a list of stuff but I'm about to eat.
I'm sure someone else will soon enough.

You can easily knock the socks off anything dell sell (rhyme!) for less money, as long as you know what you're doing.

In short, kidnap a geek and get them to build it for ya.

[Dr-Electro]

I am a geek, a professional geek with over thirty years' experience. Buy Dell unless you are geekier than me.

For all these years, I was able to build better and make it last longer. After all this time, I am finally convinced that a factory built computer with a three-year warranty is better than anything I can build, as long as we are after a general-purpose machine.

If you are a hard-core PC gamer who eats, breathes, sleeps and pees 3D rendering blood and guts video and 50 GB a frame, then by all means go to overclockers, whether stateside or in the isles. Otherwise, listen to the incredibly free advice given by a stingy, old professional hardware wrangler, like me.

[Stringy Pete]

If only he'd say what he wants the comp for...

[Mystical Parrot]

yea that would help in making a decision about what to get

[Markeh]

um mostly gaming id say but i still want it to do other stuff but im not bothered about getting the biggest and the best

edit: i looked on dell and this was the first thing i saw and i thought. wow :D

am i right to wow?

http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/products/features.aspx/homepage_Q1_W1_dimen_2400_D28?c=uk&l=en&s=dhs

[Mystical Parrot]

its alrite tho you'd need to buy better speakers and a real graphics card

never ever get integrated graphics if you want a gaming machine

[Stringy Pete]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

No AGP slot!!!!! 2400 is the devil!!!!!!

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
quoted for truth

[Markeh]

can you look on that site and find something good

btw. you can customise the packages

[Stringy Pete]

Still no AGP slot, noooooooooo!

You can't upgrade the graphics unless you get the PCI version of it.

Would you not feel confident building the comp yourself? Do you know anyone that has built a comp before? On that budget if you want a gaming machine it will either have to be the Dell Dimension 4600 (more or less bottom spec with a GeForce 5200) or you'll have to build one yourself.


(not taking into account other sources of computer)

[Bosnod]

You can buy seperate parts from here (http://www.savastore.com)

[Scribbly]

www.dell.com

Really. Dell's good.

[Mystical Parrot]

lies build yer own it is really rather easy

eBuyer (http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/home/index.html)
scan (http://www.scan.co.uk/)
those are good links to shops that also sell systems that you can upgrade yourself
crucial memory (http://www.crucial.com/) <- go there for memory its very good

[wyrd_fish]

Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics
:rolleyes: iused to have intel extreme grafix... they wouldn't work on the new unreal engine with out alot of tinkering...



i prefer to build my own computers... that way you know everything thats gone into making it work


What I'd get for £700: (all prices from scan.co.uk)
Mobo: Asus A7N8X Deluxe (V2) £70
CPU: AMD Athlon XP 2800+ (Barton) £103
GFX Card: Asus Raden 9600XP (with Half-Life 2) £132
Memory: Corsair TwinX PC3200 512mb (2x 256mb) £97
Monitor: any CRT (good quality a bonus) ~£100
Keyboard: generic ~£15
Mouse: generic (optical a bonus i recomend logitech) ~£15
Speakers: Creative Labs Inspire 5.1 5100 £42
Case: Chenbro Gaming Bomb Case (blue ;-)) £41
PSU: any (SATA and >330watt a must) £~40
HDD: 160Gb Western Digital Fluid Bearing Serial ATA (7200rpm, 8MB Cache) £87

Total: £742 - Broke the bank slightly, but you can always go for a smaller HDD and generic sterio speackers...

and you may wish to chuck a case fan in there.... don't go for a temp regulated one, as that mobo will do that for you.


PS overclockers.co.uk has quite a bad reputation with customer service...

[leeroy]

Originally posted by Dr-Electro
For all these years, I was able to build better and make it last longer. After all this time, I am finally convinced that a factory built computer with a three-year warranty is better than anything I can build, as long as we are after a general-purpose machine.

If you are a hard-core PC gamer who eats, breathes, sleeps and pees 3D rendering blood and guts video and 50 GB a frame, then by all means go to overclockers, whether stateside or in the isles. Otherwise, listen to the incredibly free advice given by a stingy, old professional hardware wrangler, like me.

very true, my home network is made of all dell pc's and never had a problem, i built my own the other day though with all the bits off overclockers because i'm one of the sad bastards that falls into the second category of 'hardcore i love to watch people die with utmost realism'

you really dont need to build your own pc as they are always far more expensive and if something goes wrong your fucked

[Mystical Parrot]

Originally posted by leeroy
you really dont need to build your own pc as they are always far more expensive and if something goes wrong your fucked

they're not more expensive you can build one for the same price and you also get total control over what you're buying and dont get integrated stuff you'll never want
if something goes wrong you're not fucked you get guarantees for each part.

[Markeh]

i think ill probs get one of the dell dimentions things. found a nice one for almost 800. it looks pretty sweet. thanks for the suggestions guys

[leeroy]

Originally posted by Mystical Parrot
they're not more expensive you can build one for the same price and you also get total control over what you're buying and dont get integrated stuff you'll never want
if something goes wrong you're not fucked you get guarantees for each part.

building it yourself is always more expensive, as the big companies like dell buy in bulk and so save lots of cash. and if you screw something up when putting it together or using it you always run the risk of voiding guarantees as they cover far less than the bigger plans you get with the companies. but theres always the lovely knowledge when you build it yourself that your pc is the shit, and you can always upgrade easily.

[Mystical Parrot]

pfft i'd still rather build my own. if i didnt fuck it up it cant be that hard

[Markeh]

i spose another thing about building it yourself is all the compatability issues you might get.

*shudders*

[Mystical Parrot]

only if you do something stupid such as amd processor intel board

[leeroy]

Originally posted by Mystical Parrot
pfft i'd still rather build my own. if i didnt fuck it up it cant be that hard

na it aint too hard, and if you do build your own you have muchos bragging rights, ahhh, my beast sitting next to me
*strokes his uber powerful computer*

and compatibility is never a real problem, the only trouble i had was knowing what to do the first time you switch it on but that wasn't even too bad

[Mystical Parrot]

if you build it you can be more proud of it than a shop bought one (i love my computer cause i built it)