cooling issues

[leeroy]

lo all, i recently built my new pc, but i'm a little worried, as it tells me that the inside is between 50 degrees C and 60 degrees C, is this normal? is it too hot? do i need more fans?? any advice would be much apreciated.

[wyrd_fish]

that is too hot!!!!

my CPU doesn't even go near that on load!

its currently 32dC and my chipset is at 17dC



you should really consider an exhaust fanand maybe an intake fan

look at teh pic,
1 PSU
2 optical drives
3 HDDs
4 mobo etc...

red squares respresent where you should put some fans, most cases will have spaces for them

[Pigabuff]

good adivce mate, you deserve a plus :)

[Dom]

you could cook a pie in there

[terrrbite]

Originally posted by Dom
you could cook a pie in there

lol

[leeroy]

i already have a 12cm fan at the front and back, my gfx card has 2 fans on it, my mobo has a fan for the procesor and another large one to cool its self, i dont think i can fit anymore in!, i may have to drill a hole at the side and another blow hole at the top and stick in some more fans. but i mean how many bloody fans do i need!?!!?

[Dom]

if its running at that temp with all those fans in there you've got a serious problem.

i would try and find out what is creating all of the heat? also have you looked at air flow issues are the fans blowing and sucking (hehe i said sucking) the right ways to provide the best possible air flow? if everything is in order get a watercooling kit.

[leeroy]

can someone also tell me the average temperature for a grafix card? cos thats also pretty fucking hot at the mo too. (its an asus ati radeon 9800xt if that helps)

[Dom]

i dont know about any of these fangled graphics card things i got a geforce fx thing in my laptop. surely the temperture is depending on the actual workload on the card itself therefore if its running a 3d application it'll be hotter the only reason i know this is that the fan comes on when i play games. ill have a look on the interma web for ya though

edit; i found this review here (http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/32529.html) it mentions temputures

[leeroy]

thanks mate, i'm getting really worried now

[Dom]

are you using the machine now? if so try sticking another graphics card in there and see what the temp is like.

[leeroy]

yeah i am using it now and i dont have any other cards lying around

[Mystical Parrot]

take the side off the computer and see if the temperature is lower. if it is you'll need a side fan to blow air out of your computer

[Dom]

if i could give you my heart (and a graphics card) i would

[leeroy]

hmmm, i think i should make a little more space between my gfx card and sound card, and dom, thats deep really deep.

[Pigabuff]

Originally posted by leeroy
i already have a 12cm fan at the front and back, my gfx card has 2 fans on it, my mobo has a fan for the procesor and another large one to cool its self, i dont think i can fit anymore in!, i may have to drill a hole at the side and another blow hole at the top and stick in some more fans. but i mean how many bloody fans do i need!?!!?

you may just have a really bad case... in terms of cooling that is!


But, I dunno, I'm a simple minded fool, I have nothing else to say :rolleyes:

[wyrd_fish]

if i were you i'd have a serious think about my air flow, and post the specs of your computer.

put you hand next to the outlets and see how hot the air is, if its cool it may be that your temp monitor is naffed or that the air isn't going all the way round your case

PS why not draw us a diagram

[Lewiji]

Really bad fix, but if you cut small "vents" into the top and bottom of the case, then have the fans point slightly upwards, this should eliminate heat more effectively. The vents at the bottom let in cold air as cold air is lower, then the fans push all the cold air upwards which cools everything down, the heat coming off the pc then rises out of the top vents quicker because of the cold air filling the space and the fans. Effective, works on mine, I hardly top 30° with 2 fans.

[Stringy Pete]

Stupid suggestion, maybe, but have you got one fan pulling air in, and one air blowing it out?

If you've got two sucking in, or two blowing out, then you would be having problems.

[leeroy]

ok my bits are an abitic7-max3 mobo
p4 3.06 with standard heatskink and fan not overclocked
ati radeon 9800xt
2 hd one sata 160gig one 40 gig ide
1 dvd writer
audigy 2 sound card
thats bout it and heres a pic

edit: yes i have an intake and exhaust

[leeroy]

Originally posted by Lewiji40k
Really bad fix, but if you cut small "vents" into the top and bottom of the case, then have the fans point slightly upwards, this should eliminate heat more effectively. The vents at the bottom let in cold air as cold air is lower, then the fans push all the cold air upwards which cools everything down, the heat coming off the pc then rises out of the top vents quicker because of the cold air filling the space and the fans. Effective, works on mine, I hardly top 30° with 2 fans.

hmm i dont really get what your saying could you draw me a little diagram to show me where to make holes

edit and also a little advice on how to clean up those bloody ccables would be apreciated

[wyrd_fish]

buy a big bag of zip ties

[Lewiji]

Bit messy but you get the idea. Just small cuts with a thin blade.

[leeroy]

ok i get you thanks

[wyrd_fish]

Originally posted by Lewiji40k
Bit messy but you get the idea. Just small cuts with a thin blade.

that makes no sence

teh rising warm air will get in and falling cold air will not...

[Lewiji]

Works here, because the hot air on my tower doesn't start from the bottom. The cuts at the bottom are right at the bottom, and the actual stuff inside my PC starts around the middle-bottom of it. The cool air finds it's way inside.

[Pigabuff]

Originally posted by wyrd_fish
buy a big bag of zip ties

yes, indeed!

get those, and, dude, tidy that mess up man!.... you really would not believe the difference that those wires makes!

plus makes sure that there is space around the CPU, this also will help the air flow.

[Mystical Parrot]

try and stuff unused cables in a spare 3.5/5.25 slot and tie them in as well

[Lewiji]

If you have a really long 80-pin drive-motherboard cable you can 'mould' them-wrap them around the cables, saves money and looks aight too!

[wyrd_fish]

other than the heat and wire problems, that looks like a damn nice setup you've got there

[leeroy]

its a bit of a beast :) the temps have been down a little i've been fiddling with the fans a bit