Almost a terrorist attack

[Zhyl]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6252276.stm

A car is found with a bomb, gas canisters, petrol and nails.

It was found by an ambulance crew who saw smoke coming out of the car.

It is thought the bomb could either be planted by Islamic extremists, extreme gang warfare or a twisted individual.

[Super Weebl]

Welcome to 10 Downing Street, Mr Brown.

[Thomp]

Surprised there wasn't a thread on this earlier

But yeah, it was thought to be an extremist Irish group, but they've been dropped. Would have caused devstation had the bomb gone off...

[TheSheep]

i heard about this when my mate got to school this morning. good job the abulance crew spotted it

[Scuffles]

From the article it sounds like there were several suspicious cars found...
Guess we'll just have to wait for more info.

[Lyricaus]

It was royal mail, getting back at us for being so polite to them! But seriously, sounds dangerous. surely they can just trace the car via a number plate? (assuming one was left on it)

[terrorbite]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.

[Coroona]

Im exactly the same.

[El Fisho]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.

I couldn't stop myself thinking that when I heard either.

[Fissh]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.

Erode our freedoms? Get your foil hat out son. More CCTV? If you get mugged in a backstreet you'll be glad that camera was watching. So either you'd rather go back to the good old days of people looking out for each other, or you do something which cameras could nab you for
( I don't mean to sound like an arguementative sod here so I apologise)

On topic; it doesn't sound like an Islamic plot, it all seems too flawed and open for foiling. Reminds me of the IRA bombs of the late 80's and early 90's
To my knowledge Al-Quaeda (yes I know, I'm getting sick and tired of using the name too) dont use nail bombs, they just use high explosives?

[piemastermike]

a full tank in one of those would be about 60 litres of petrol...

[Rook]

I really don't think it matters who planted the damned thing, just that it was found before it went off... no, I'm not prepared to hear your conspiracy theories right now. Too tired.

[Super Weebl]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.


No, just no..

[terrorbite]

No, just no..
Why? My theory is no less plausable than what you're being told by the media. Oh those pesky Islamic extremists. Who would've guessed them eh? ;)

Erode our freedoms? Get your foil hat out son. More CCTV? If you get mugged in a backstreet you'll be glad that camera was watching. So either you'd rather go back to the good old days of people looking out for each other, or you do something which cameras could nab you for
( I don't mean to sound like an arguementative sod here so I apologise)
I don't want cameras monitoring our activity 24/7 thanks. I'd rather have more police on the streets if anything.

[piemastermike]

except statistics show that more police on the streets doesn't help at all. What you just displayed is classic Daily Mail politics.

[terrorbite]

Except I don't read the Daily Mail, or any other trashy newspapers. Those are my own thoughts.

And how doesn't more police help? You're saying cameras are better at preventing crime? Cameras do jack shit. They're no deterrent. They occasionally help to catch the criminal, but that's no good to me if I'm already dead.

As a side note, I'm so sick of people always talking about "Daily Mail readers". You can't look at any debate on this forum without someone mentioning it. Its one of those things you say because you heard other people say it, and you want to sound more intellectual and well-informed.

Edit: Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today. Also I hate having serious discussions on the internet. Typing is such hard work.

[Taysmith]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.

It might just be related to the fact that some Islamic group promised to do something at the end of Blairs "reign"?

[BlueIncaPilot]

Oooh I've just seen this on the news. Nasty, sick, horrible people.

[piemastermike]

Except I don't read the Daily Mail, or any other trashy newspapers. Those are my own thoughts.

And how doesn't more police help? You're saying cameras are better at preventing crime? Cameras do jack shit. They're no deterrent. They occasionally help to catch the criminal, but that's no good to me if I'm already dead.

As a side note, I'm so sick of people always talking about "Daily Mail readers". You can't look at any debate on this forum without someone mentioning it. Its one of those things you say because you heard other people say it, and you want to sound more intellectual and well-informed.

Edit: Sorry, I'm in a weird mood today. Also I hate having serious discussions on the internet. Typing is such hard work.
no, i'm saying that more police doing research into the causes, investigations and whatnot is PROVEN to be more effective than just shoving a load of police on the streets. The chances of them stumbling upon a crime are slim to none.

[terrorbite]

Fair enough.

[da-geezer]

Sounds like a load of arse.

As has been said earlier, if it was al-qaeda, then we'd be dealing with multiple dead persons by now rather than a duff merc with a few nails and flammable substances inside.

All seems very amateruish to me.

[captain canuck]

When in doubt, blame the Irish.




(I'm only kidding. I swear)

[Swirl]

Apparently another car has been found with the capacity to explode in London - at least it was found.

[edit]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6255960.stm

[captain canuck]

I sense an ad campaign from Mercedes competitors...

"Failed terrorists use Mercedes. Should you?"

[Lyricaus]

Ahh, this can't be a cover up to trick us. look.
It was given a parking ticket at 0230 BST on Friday after being found illegally parked in Cockspur Street.

The vehicle was then towed to the Park Lane car pound about an hour later.
It was full of dangerous explosives, yet got a ticket, then towed off bumping about? Ahh the joys of our knowledgeable police service.
and look at the map. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42445000/gif/_42445410_hyde_park416_1.gif Thats how far the car was towed. Jesus. Sheer brilliance.

[happy-go-lucky]

I was in London this week. Scary.

[Bewildebeast]

It is thought the bomb could either be planted by Islamic extremists, extreme gang warfare or a twisted individual.
So it could've been planted by... anyone who would plant a bomb

[captain canuck]

Well, I for one am glad they're not questioning any Girl Scouts...

[Bewildebeast]

Well, I for one am glad they're not questioning any Girl Scouts...
You never know what's in those cookies

[Wahoo]

If you think the police would set up ANY kind of device which would pursposely kill people then you really have got the wrong idea.

And no, you probably won't get more police on the streets, cause there are too many drink drivers/people reporting crap/operations and other incidents, such as this one, that they are busy with.

[Zhyl]

So it could've been planted by... anyone who would plant a bomb

I know, it's great, isn't it?

I was watching an interview and the man was convinced it was Islamic terrorists despite there being no evidence released yet.

[Erskien_Parkour]

Apparantly it was timed to go off at 3-3:30.

Basically when the night club closed and everyone came out.

My sister was there the night they found it. Except they decided not to go in at the last minute.
If they had gone in, and the bomb hadnt been found.. My sister could have been dead or horribly wounded...
:(

[crazy-eye0]

Aparently,they've found a second bomb,not too far away from the 1st,just last night.

[midas22]

They found another car bomb later on aswell with exactly the same stuff in it

[Mister Qwerty]

I read about that one the front of the Mirror this morning, it was mobile phone-triggered and was defused 2 minutes before it was to be detonated.

[terrorbite]

I read about that one the front of the Mirror this morning, it was mobile phone-triggered and was defused 2 minutes before it was to be detonated.
Haha. Bullshit.

[piemastermike]

Sounds like a load of arse.

As has been said earlier, if it was al-qaeda, then we'd be dealing with multiple dead persons by now rather than a duff merc with a few nails and flammable substances inside.

All seems very amateruish to me.
Geezer is the law.

[Hydralisk]

I can't help but recall the scene in fight club where Tyler explains how to make TNT out of Orange juice and stuff.

[Mat^]

I can't help but recall the scene in fight club where Tyler explains how to make TNT out of Orange juice and stuff.Which is bollocks, by the way.

:ninja:

[terrorbite]

"One can make all kinds of explosives, using everyday household items."

"Really?"

"If one was so inclined."

[albie_123]

Seriously, Al-qaeda freaking suck at terrorism.

Seriously.

Since September 11, they haven't made the Americans stand up and go "HOLY CRAP" again.

Now if it were Communists that were blowing stuff up, oh man, there'd be so much terror you could fill the Pacific ocean with it.

post is NOT to be taken seriously

EDIT: Wait, since when is this Al-qaeda anyway?

[Martinus]

I wouldn't discount anyone at the mo. IRA splinter groups are stretched pretty thin these days, they don't get much support from anyone.

As for Radical Islamic Fuckheads; they'll pretty much use anything they can to scare the UK up a bit. Claiming that high explosives is their m.o. suggests that they all have access to the stuff whenever they need it.

[Super Weebl]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm

[Youlikeyams?]

Bunch of lunatics everywhere now, eh?

[Zhyl]

I want to feel shocked, appalled and scared, but I'm a bit bored of this whole thing now. It feels like a bad sequel to that movie that should never have been made, re-using all the old material.

[Boyinabox]

The disadvantages of suicide bombings are all to clear now:
Once your "higher tier" terrorists have done a successful attack you're left with the somewhat more useless terrorists to take their place. :p

But in all seriousness, hopefully there will be no more terrorist related news for a while, I'm sick to death of these twats.

[terrorbite]

Let's just get on with our lives people :)

[Hitpoint]

I want to feel shocked, appalled and scared, but I'm a bit bored of this whole thing now. It feels like a bad sequel to that movie that should never have been made, re-using all the old material.
Die hard?

[Bewildebeast]

I like the headline here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257846.stm)

Airport incident 'was terrorism'

Pope 'is Catholic'

[bionic sheep]

Which is bollocks, by the way.

:ninja:
Yeah man, everyone knows napalm is petrol and polystyrene. Apparently those little pellets you get in packaging work best.

Whoops.

But yeah anyhow, I'm genuinely interested as to who this is. It's worth bearing in mind that the biggest bomb plot the UK has ever seen was conducted by a BNP member, and the only reason it didn't make major news is that the police caught him way before he could do anything.

Apparently the guys in the cars at Glasgow were asian, but that doesn't really mean anything.

[wayland jr]

I like the headline here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257846.stm)

Airport incident 'was terrorism'

Pope 'is a Nazi'

Fix'd.

Apparently the guys in the cars at Glasgow were asian, but that doesn't really mean anything.

What brand of Asian do they mean? Oriental, middle eastern, sub-continental...?

Asian is a bit of a wide category to be honest. :/

[terrorbite]

What brand of Asian do they mean? Oriental, middle eastern, sub-continental...?

Asian is a bit of a wide category to be honest. :/
In england, it usually refers to indians/pakistanis.

[katt]

glad they caught them/it didnt work.

i believe it is only a matter of time however before the soulless gutter rats succeed with a london attack...their 9.11 plans came through so they are capable of being organized. it worires me a great deal...militant islam is to be looked at with cynicism and im afraid it will be too late before enough people start considering it in that light

[Timmeh]

I'm something of a conspiracy theorist, but does anyone else think this might've been set up?

Whenever I hear about terrorist attacks that've been foiled, I often think it's to show people that the police are doing a good job and to show that we really do need more measures to prevent terrorism, including the introduction of ID cards and more CCTV cameras, and generally all the other things being done to erode our freedoms.

Oh, and it happened just after Gordon Brown became PM. He can handle a crisis! He's my hero now!

Sorry, I'm such a cynical bastard. Haha.

I doubt it, I feel it

a) insights too much fear in the general public and

b) would completely unseat the government if they were found to have set it up.

I mean, it's a possibility, but I think it's more likely that the government and their agencies would much rather we were kept in the dark about these sorts of things and build the new PM's public relations with some baby kissing and so on. After all, a Britain that feels it's safe is a Britain that's more likely to vote for labour again next general election because at the end of the day, every bomb that hits our streets is a failure by the security services, and governments do not like failure on any level. I do often wonder how many of these attempts MI5/6 (or whatever it was they've been renamed now) actually intercept before they get to this stage and we never hear about. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers were really rather high.

Very good thing that in the 3 potential disasters of the last few days, nobody who deliberately set themselves up to be seriously injured has been. So far it's just one bloke with a leg injury which is a very large mercy.

[katt]

awhile back i read this article entitled "Suicide teams sent to europe , america"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2007/06/exclusive_suici.html

i wonder if this is the start of a series of them stemming from these purported camps. i hope that this was just an isolated incident of unorganized wackos and no further trouble will happen. although if these camps do exist i think it might backfire on them because the authorities will possibly be even more alert and looking for trouble.

[Preasure]

At least all this bomb making stuff got into the hands of bunglers who couldn't make it work instead of people who could. The two are linked, if you ask me. London bombs didn't work so they tried to do a suicide bombing before the police caught up with them.

[happy-go-lucky]

awhile back i read this article entitled "Suicide teams sent to europe , america"

Europe isn't in America.

[Sebas]

glad they caught them/it didnt work.

i believe it is only a matter of time however before the soulless gutter rats succeed with a london attack...
Like this, you mean? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings)

I see you're very interested in Europe and what happens there, seeing how well you know its very recent history...

[Thomp]

I found it a little ironic that it took a terrorist attack in Scotland for our new PM to come out and say "Yeah, we're sorta gonna get attacked properly soon..."

[Mister Qwerty]

Fix'd.
He was a Nazi, he was in the Hitler youth.

[Scuffles]

If the car bombs had suceeded, they could potentially have claimed many more lives. As for ignoring it completely and getting on with your normal routine.... being apathetic doesn't make you bomb proof! I agree you shouldn't let this change the way you live your life, just try to be vigilant, like that superhero guy.

In the meantime, I certainly don't think this will be the end, and I believe future attacks in Britain could well be performed on a much larger scale.

[katt]

Like this, you mean? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_2005_London_bombings)

I see you're very interested in Europe and what happens there, seeing how well you know its very recent history...

of course i remember that don't be petty...theres no need to be so fussy :)

when i said 'succeed with a london attack' i was thinking of something on a larger scale...

[Taysmith]

of course i remember that don't be petty...theres no need to be so fussy :)

when i said 'succeed with a london attack' i was thinking of something on a larger scale...

It was pretty big. Granted we didn't lose thousands of people like in 9/11, but it was pretty big.

[Nuclear Spoon]

What, so over 50 fucking people getting killed isn't large enough for it to be a "successful" terrorist attack?

[Sebas]

of course i remember that don't be petty...theres no need to be so fussy :)

when i said 'succeed with a london attack' i was thinking of something on a larger scale...
Stop being petty about the Virginia Tech shootings. I mean, only 32 dead, who'd bother getting excited over such trivialties?

DISCLAIMER: Obviously the above is not my real opinion, I just find that 50 dead and over 700 wounded is not exactly 'petty.'

[katt]

i'm not saying it wasn't successful or significant i am saying it was not as dramatically horrific as what happened on 9/11.
or even what would have happened if that plot to blow up the airliners from heathrow had succeeded .

when i made that earlier statement i was thinking of a terror attack with a high death toll (which we all know that is what these terrorists want to happen if they could manage it) and 50 is alot of peopel, and yes that was sad and horrible but it was not "masses" of people.

don't twist my words and thoughts around please...

[Sebas]

Firstly, terrorists do not want to create a high death toll. They want their demands met, and their main tool is, as the name implies, terror. Secondly, I am not twisting anything around. You are just saying silly things. Please go away and come back when you actually have thought about what you want to say, so you can say something sensible.

[katt]

oh hush. of course terrorists want to have a high death toll because it SCARES people more if more people die and they use fear and terror to their advantage.

[Sebas]

Oh my gosh, do you think so? Mass violence is but one of the many tools they use, since other things are just as fear-inspiring, or even more, as killing bunches of people. That still doesn't change the fact that you discarded a town-wide attack with a big impact as 'trivial,' because not so many people died.

[tom93]

Hell, this scare, where nobody's injured or dead, is freaking me out. Death =/= terror.

[captain canuck]

I found it a little ironic that it took a terrorist attack in Scotland for our new PM to come out and say "Yeah, we're sorta gonna get attacked properly soon..." He seems to have escalated his response to well past Blair-ian proportions in a matter of just a few hours. I've read several different quotes in articles just since I got up this morning (20 minutes ago) suggesting his current state of mind is "we're going to get attacked, repeatedly, on a large scale each, and all over the country. Be very afraid!"

Personally, I'm glad that our own response to a supposedly immediate threat has been more complacent, rather than being over-the-top paranoid. Canadian terrorists seem much more incompetent than anywhere else (excluding the PLQ, we don't exactly have a history of it), so I can't see much of a threat here anyway :p

[katt]

(this is addressed to sebas)

you gotta be joking...you're just being an angry twit to me for no reason.

before 9/11 the WTC was bombed and not that many people died. we did not, as a nation, freak out in as big a shock as we did during 9/11. the amount of people who lost their lives was a major reason that attack scared us so badly. true the destruction of the building was also scary but it was mostly the death toll

i never said it was trivial...and i do not feel it is trivial so your accusations hold no ground with me. i simply put the thought out there it was not as big as 9/11 or even what the foiled heathrow plot coulda been. its wasn't as big as what could come ipossibly come in the future. which is the damned truth

[Shiny]

Katt, please, just stop posting. I don't know if you really deliberately do it but if anything vaguely political gets posted in these forums, you immediately latch on to it and start arguing against the established opinion. I'm not sure if you're sucking up to the stereotypical thoughtless, uninformed american stereotype or you really do just epitomise it.

Ugh.

*block list*

[katt]

what is the established opinion, then, in this thread

that what happened in london in 2005 was a successful terror attack? yes i would agree with that. i would also agree that it was horrible.

i just had someone being overly literal in the way i phrased a sentence and i responded to it to explain that i meant that i am afraid london will experience something on the scale of 9/11 at some point.

most of the time its people just jumping to wild-eyed conclusions about what i am saying based on the fact i am not liberal/etc.

[tom93]

We're jumping to regular-eyed conclusions, based on what you say. I had no idea you weren't a liberal until you said. The things you are saying are, to be frank, insensitive and ignorant, liberal or otherwise.

[Sebas]

(this is addressed to sebas)

you gotta be joking...you're just being an angry twit to me for no reason.

before 9/11 the WTC was bombed and not that many people died. we did not, as a nation, freak out in as big a shock as we did during 9/11. the amount of people who lost their lives was a major reason that attack scared us so badly. true the destruction of the building was also scary but it was mostly the death toll

i never said it was trivial...and i do not feel it is trivial so your accusations hold no ground with me. i simply put the thought out there it was not as big as 9/11 or even what the foiled heathrow plot coulda been. its wasn't as big as what could come ipossibly come in the future. which is the damned truth
Angry twit, maybe, but I have a reason all right. Like Shiny said, you seem determined to voice your opinion without any insight, whenever anything political and preferably related to the Islam is posted. The "Americans are clueless, self-centered slobs" stereotype is mostly a false one, but you seem to be living up to it nicely.

The reason 9/11 was so scary was because of the simplicity with which several airliners were hijacked and used as deadly weapons. The one airplane that was re-hijacked by the passengers and crashed before any real damage could be done, would have been just as scary on its own, if not more. There was supposed to be a safety plan on each and every one of those planes, and yet all of them got hijacked simultaneously, without much of a glitch on 3 of the 4 planes. That is scary.

The London Underground bombings weren't as big as 9/11, I'll grant you that. But this scared me in the way it was very widespread. It happened all across London, so who knows what might be next? And "It's not as big as might possibly happen in the future" is an empty phrase, because nobody knows anything about the future.

Edit: Oh, and thanks. I've been called an arrogant cunt before, but it's the first time I was called a gibbering idiot. Should I try using smaller words next time?

[katt]

Edit: Oh, and thanks. I've been called an arrogant axe-wound before, but it's the first time I was called a gibbering idiot. Should I try using smaller words next time?
you were gibbering about terrorists not seeking a high death toll one minute and when i called that out as untrue you went round and said oh yes they do.

and this was all just one big retarded overreaction to the way i phrased a sentence. trying to make it seem like i didnt view the first attack as significant/sad when i was really just thinking it wasnt 9/11 scale. which is TRUE and i dont think i am being insensitive.

[Scuffles]

Although the term "terrorist" is used, remember these people believe they're waging a war, and they've said that they want Britain to be an Islamic state. A high death toll of non-muslims would probably be their target, not just the attention that these actions obtain.

Also, remember we've heard previously of foiled plots in the UK including plans to build a "dirty bomb". A successful attack of this nature in London could cause casualties higher than 4 digit numbers.

The 7th July attack was terrible, and should serve as a wake up call to the rest of us that this is a very real threat that isn't going to go away just because we want it to.

[Sebas]

Think again. Your literal response to my bringing up the Underground Bombings was "Don't be petty."

Also, you made it out as if high death counts were the goal of terrorist foundations. This is not the case, it's merely a means to their end.

[katt]

Think again. Your literal response to my bringing up the Underground Bombings was "Don't be petty."



i meant you were being petty about how i was phrasing my sentences to try and twist it around to look like i didnt know about what happened in 05 there when all i was trying to say was i was a bit scared london (or any other city for that matter) would get another 9/11 caliber attack where THOUSANDS of peopel die

i did NOT mean petty in the sense i thought 2005 attacks were not a tragedy/significant

jeeeeez

and btw the means to an end are a goal in themselves. so yes it is their goal

[tom93]

and btw the means to an end are a goal in themselves. so yes it is their goal
That makes no sense at all.
If the means are the goal, then they're the ends too. Once you've achieved your goal, you've got your ends.

[katt]

the means are perhaps shorter-term goals intended to achieve a final longer-term goal.

still qualify as goals

[CoffeeMachine]

Wait, there's been a real terrorist attack on an airport!

[Sebas]

I'm not even gonna go into this any more. It's like smashing your head into a wall. Only less painful. And more pointless.

[captain canuck]

CM... Do you mean the two "south Asian" guys who drove a burning SUV into the airport in Glasgow, or the suspicious package that was left at Kennedy Airport?

[basstard]

Hell, this scare, where nobody's injured or dead, is freaking me out. Death =/= terror.

Meh. I'm not that worried, and the Glasgow attack was 5 miles from my house. Mainly because all the tabloids are panicking, and I like to do the opposite of what they say.

[Explosivo]

Changing the subject slightly, did anyone notice how almost bored Brown looked when he was giving his address to the nation about the attacks. There was absolutely no emotion shown, despite his home country was a target. He just kept his hands almost tied to his sides and spoke, in my opinion expressionously(word?) to a camera.

Finally Katt, I understand what you are trying to say, but in the future please learn to read and write before attempting to on an internationally accessible internet forum.

[CoffeeMachine]

Changing the subject slightly, did anyone notice how almost bored Brown looked when he was giving his address to the nation about the attacks. There was absolutely no emotion shown, despite his home country was a target. He just kept his hands almost tied to his sides and spoke, in my opinion expressionously(word?) to a camera.

Finally Katt, I understand what you are trying to say, but in the future please learn to read and write before attempting too on an internationally accessible internet forum.
Inappropriate name or most inappropiate name?

[Taysmith]

Calm down guys. katt has been shouted at enough now, let's stop?

[Thomp]

Woah, this thread got juicy.

My viewpoint on terrorists is that they set out to instill fear and hatred among others. It's bred into them that they must sacrifice themselves to cause as much devastation against other religions and faiths. Anyone they kill, within the process of becoming a martyr, is an added bonus for them.

In my opinion, the way they are causing widespread fear and raise security levels is their way of saying "we're winning the war of terrorism". We could, theoretically, not get worked up and scared over any attack, but it's human nature too. It also doesn't help with the press having headlines such as "WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!"

[captain canuck]

"WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!" But that's true, as long as there's no speculation on the reason why, or whether or not we all go at once. And on that very subject I'm a bit reminded of a Tom Lehrer song. Back in the 50's, with the Cold War going strong, when the threat was Commies Under Your Bed, and not Terrorists, he wrote:

We will all go together when we go
All suffused with an incandescent glow
No one will have the endurance
To collect on his insurance
Lloyd's of London will be loaded when they go

And that threat didn't exactly pan out, did it? ;)