Real, Proper IQ Tests

[MeatwagonAction]

...and I'm not talking about the shitty free things on the Net that mean jack-shit. I'm talking about real IQ tests that are marked by people and take ages to answer.

Has anyone ever taken one? I have applied for a job and I must take an IQ test before they select for interviews, so I just wondered if anyone else has taken a real IQ test for whatever reason.

[Sebas]

Yup. Had one when I was 10. Had 152+. Shows you just how much IQ really means, because I'm too damn lazy to really do anything with it. :p

[allfalldown]

I've never taken one, but I'd quite like to one day. I keep half-meaning to do that BBC one that comes around every year, but often I never know it's on until it says on TV "After the break, Test the Nation IQ test show thing" or whatever.

[Darkscull]

no such thing as real IQ tests

the ones you mean are just slightly more repeatable (in a scientific sense) and give a better comparison between different people, but they're still inaccurate, and the results still depend more on the time, place, emotional state of the person, etc than on the actual intelligence.

all IQ tests, whether they be crappy internet ones, or the ones you're talking about are just tests of how well you can do IQ tests (and tests in general), plus your basic education level. well, the biggest thing they test is how much you care and can be bothered to think, which i suppose is useful.

even the mensa test is just a cross between a maths test and a selection of trick questions. the only thing that sets it apart from others is the lower time limit.

[happy-go-lucky]

I did one at primary school. Apparently I just scraped into the "genius" category, which proves they must be pretty crap.

[tom93]

IQ tests test your ability to do IQ tests.

[Gingerlord]

IQ tests test your ability to do IQ tests.

Brilliant.

I usually get 134 -> when i do these net ones but as you said they mean nothing. You could be a genius and have no common sense (yes it's a totally seperate thing) which renders you useless for everyday life!

[woody_tng]

At the place that I work, there are a lot of so called "Geniuses", but very few of them have any common sense at all.

[Gingerlord]

Where do you work?

Parliament? Lol

[woody_tng]

Nah. A factory where they make all sorts. I work on devices for the ESA GAIA satalite. :D

[Timmeh]

I've done 3, two in school, one in my old job. First two came back high 160s, third came back low 160s.

They're quite subjective really, there were a ton of logic problems on the ones I did and I'm very logical, I'd honestly say it's more a statement about that than intelligence.

[Gingerlord]

Mint! I have to torment people and scare them into paying there debts!

I am a debt collector but myself am in debt. Ironic world isn't it.

160! The national average for the UK is 100. Einstein was about 148!

[Rook]

Yup. Had one when I was 10. Had 152+. Shows you just how much IQ really means, because I'm too damn lazy to really do anything with it. :p
Likewise, except mine was more like 140 (they never showed me the actual result though, and it took me ages to find out that much).

The last time I did anything resembling an IQ test, it was the net-based MENSA taster (20 questions, 20 minutes), I got about 133. TBH though, I couldn't be arsed with MENSA even if I thought I was higher. I mean, it's like membership itself is an IQ test: at a (what is it, £50?) joining fee, the smart ones are the people that don't join.

No, that isn't bitterness because I couldn't get in if I tried. Okay, maybe a little. In any case, all IQ tests do for me is show me one more class I'm middling in (not good enough to be the best, not bad enough to warrant dropping out). Sucks.

[Redux]

IQ tests test your ability to do IQ tests.

I heard that one from a psychology professor.

It makes sense.

My girlfriend tried to blow out a small kitchen fire. I had to run over and smother it. She says her IQ is somewhere around 150. She treated a blaze like a birthday cake.

Pretty sure IQ isn't that important.

Meaty McGoo, you tell those guys at that job thing that IQ tests are retarded. You'll get hired on the spot. Trust me.

[Gabber-Baby]

I feel like a tard now.

Ive done a few online ones and have come out at about 120! I was so chuffed with myself aswell, with the average being 100.

Might rewind and go back to reading Biff and Chip.

[albie_123]

i got 158 on a real iq test

therefore, iq tests are seriously wrong, as i am much more likely in the 300s

case closed

[Smartie]

It depends as well, as differing IQ tests actually use different scoring systems.
So one on test the suggested "average" might be 160, on another it may be 100, because the max you can score is different.
So really, there's also no cross-comparison.

[Timmeh]

Actually, real IQ tests are designed to give a Gaussian distribution (which looks like the peak of a sine wave) with the highest point at 100 and a horizontal return before and after certain points (50 and 150 if I recall). Real IQ test will always average on 100, or as close to it as possible. The important thing to remember is the scale already exists, the paper is written with this in mind, given to x test subjects and the mark scheme will be adjusted accordingly, often with a multiplier (so they may say "well, this test is too difficult, the average from a random sample of 10000 people is 90, we'll multiply everyone's result by 1.11R to even it out).

[Darkscull]

It depends as well, as differing IQ tests actually use different scoring systems.
So one on test the suggested "average" might be 160, on another it may be 100, because the max you can score is different.
So really, there's also no cross-comparison.

i should have mentioned this as well, and was just going to add it after seeing the einstein comment, but you beat me to it.


IQ tests are only useful if you tailor it for exactly what you're looking for (which is what many of the work ones will be, unless they just got a test from somewhere else), and even then it's still only good for comparing different peoples results, since there are no absolute values in things like this. they shouldn't be called IQ tests though. in fact, i think what i just described is what many companies/organisations call aptitude tests, which is a more accurate title.

[gembird]

This whole thing about IQ being different from common sense seems about right to me... In all my practicals this week I've sat in a room full of A grade students (who should be smart, right?) who can't use logic at all, and just whine that they don't understand.

I've actually screamed at them before- "For the love of God, it's basic physics! If it's wonky at the bottom, it'll fall over!"

Incidentally, my IQ always comes out somewhere between 130 and 165, so clearly they're shit, I'm not that smart.

[natty dread]

You could be a genius and have no common sense

Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. :eng101:

[MeatwagonAction]

Ive done a few online ones and have come out at about 120! I was so chuffed with myself aswell, with the average being 100.

The average is 85.

[Timmeh]

The average is 85.

No, no it isn't. Read what I wrote above for clarification.

[Mister Qwerty]

I did one a few months ago and my IQ turned out to be 154. Around the area of that anyway.

[Smokey]

Any one else noticed that most people on the internet claim their IQ is 130+?

Never done a real one but would probably come out a bit above average although I couldn't say how far. I doubt I'd be pushing for an Einstein intelleigence.

[Urlosenged]

The average is 85.
Lol. Just lol.

All the online ones say mine is around 120ish, which just shows they're a load of crap - I'm not really smart at all, and the only reason I did well in school was because I saw how the system worked and used it.

[Timmeh]

Oh IQ isn't as related to intelligence as people think, at least in my opinion. I have nothing like Einstein's intelligence, he thought in ways I simply never could. I would, however say I'm very, very logical and good at mathematical thinking. That's pretty much all they look at during IQ tests, being the only things you can truly test to any depth without requiring deep pre-knowledge of a subject (removing the point of IQ tests). As a result, I do very well. On a less logic based test, my score would no doubt be lower.

[Gabber-Baby]

I actually hate online IQ tests, they always have a question like -

"If all Woddles are Winkles, and all Winkles are Wallies, then all Woddles are Wallies. True or False?"

Wtf? How can that seperate a genius from a tard?

[Ozzylator]

In my experience, the only practical use of a high IQ is browbeating others. I know a few people from MENSA and they're all immature, nerdy child-men (even by comparison with me). My online results vary between 130 and 165.

[T-Bear]

I did a few online ones, and I was reasonably chuffed that it came out at >130. Now, I realize that they mean nothing. All they do is test your ability to answer the sort of questions that the tests usually comprise of, normally logic questions.
Peoples intelligence doesnt matter, its how they use the intelligence they have. Its all very well saying you have an IQ of 160, but if you're spending your time reading internet forums all day and masturbating, you're in no position to show off.
This wasnt directed at anyone, just saying.

[MeatwagonAction]

Any one else noticed that most people on the internet claim their IQ is 130+?

Yup. Isn't lying from behind a computer screen great? :rolleyes:

[Timmeh]

Says the man who an hour previously attempted to claim the average for an IQ test is 85. :p

[LeoZ]

but timmeh, there's a difference between being mistaken and lying MR 160.

[BlueIncaPilot]

I've never done one. I do know that 100 is around the average, and if you are below 70 it's classed as having a mental disorder.

[MeatwagonAction]

Says the man who an hour previously attempted to claim the average for an IQ test is 85. :p

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa101/entwistlefromthewho/iq.jpg

[Urlosenged]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa101/entwistlefromthewho/iq.jpg
http://iq-test.learninginfo.org/iq04.htm
http://www.mensa.org.uk/iq-levels/
http://www.iqtest-center.com/iq-scores.php

Do you ever get tired of being wrong time after time?

[Timmeh]

Well done, you've found an image that means... absolutely nothing and hosted it on photobucket. It's like photoshopping a certificate to read "I AM A WIZARD" then going around telling everybody it must be true. I could go off on a sarcastic tangent here but instead:

Read me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ) and me (http://www.wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQUnderstandingInterpreting.html) and me (http://www.psyonline.nl/en-iq.htm) and me (http://www.a2zpsychology.com/a2z%20guide/intelligence_quotient.htm) and me (http://specialed.about.com/od/specialedacronyms/g/IQ.htm) or just google it (http://www.google.com/search?q=Intelligence+quotient).

[piemastermike]

hah

[MeatwagonAction]

Well done, you've found an image that means... absolutely nothing and hosted it on photobucket. It's like photoshopping a certificate to read "I AM A WIZARD" then going around telling everybody it must be true. I could go off on a sarcastic tangent here but instead:

Read me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ) and me (http://www.wilderdom.com/intelligence/IQUnderstandingInterpreting.html) and me (http://www.psyonline.nl/en-iq.htm) and me (http://www.a2zpsychology.com/a2z%20guide/intelligence_quotient.htm) and me (http://specialed.about.com/od/specialedacronyms/g/IQ.htm) or just google it (http://www.google.com/search?q=Intelligence+quotient).

As if I'd photoshop an image to get you to believe me... the first link is Wikipedia which voids it straight away, the second says the average is 85, not a good start to your argument.

http://www.intelli-test.co.uk

[Urlosenged]

As if I'd photoshop an image to get you to believe me... the first link is Wikipedia which voids it straight away, the second says the average is 85, not a good start to your argument.

http://www.intelli-test.co.uk
What? I just clicked on the 2nd link and within 3 seconds had seen these words:

The average IQ score is 100. The standard deviation of IQ scores is 15.

Wrong much? You're just a stubborn pillock who refuses to accept when you're clearly wrong and have been shown as such by a whole load of people and websites.

[Timmeh]

the second says the average is 85, not a good start to your argument.



It really, really doesn't. It does refers to a range that would be considered normal, but just because 85 is in that range does not result in it being the mean. Quite simply, that site you linked to is wrong and its creators clearly did not understand the concept of creating a comparable test for IQ.

[Hydralisk]

"Scoring high on an IQ test is like winning the special olypmics: Well done, you managed to beat a whole boat-load of retards." - seems to be the general attitude in this thread.

Average IQ I was told is 85 plus your age anyway, and I can't help but feel it was every so slightly wrong because if that was true, I would be just about "Exceptionally gifted" at 139 from a test I done about a year ago.

Ironically, I just done the tickle IQ test and I got 128. Inconsistencies anyone?*

*I haven't been slacking off and drinking that much! :p

[MeatwagonAction]

It really, really doesn't. It does refers to a range that would be considered normal, but just because 85 is in that range does not result in it being the mean. Quite simply, that site you linked to is wrong and its creators clearly did not understand the concept of creating a comparable test for IQ.

http://www.wilderdom.com/images/IQBellCurveEinstein.gif

Off the website you linked to I believe.....

[LeoZ]

so you really think that the average of 85 applies to all IQ tests?

[Hydralisk]

erm... yeah, looks to me like the peak of that chart lies above 100 dude.

http://www.wilderdom.com/images/IQBellCurveEinstein.gif

Off the website you linked to I believe.....
Holy shit, what website did Einstein use for calculating his IQ? :p

[Disclaimer: I am aware that there probably was a non-internets way of testing IQ]

[Timmeh]

http://www.wilderdom.com/images/IQBellCurveEinstein.gif

Off the website you linked to I believe.....

The mean of that graph is absolutely spot on 100. Use any photo editing program, even paint and draw a straight vertical line up from 100. Greatest number of people have an IQ of 100 set by the scale that the test is DESIGNED to rate someone on.

[shroomhead]

Lol. Just lol.

All the online ones say mine is around 120ish, which just shows they're a load of crap - I'm not really smart at all, and the only reason I did well in school was because I saw how the system worked and used it.
This is what defines intelligence. No excuses anymore now.

I mean, creativity is also a big part, but I guess everyone is creative in his own way, so that's not really testable.

[Qu1f]

Im wondering. Is learning basic maths, english and various other subjects in one year a good thing or is it something anyone can do ( long story short I couldnt read, write or do maths when I went into year 3 because I was deaf, now thats fixed im achieving quite well :)).

Also intelligence is multiple things. Its a bit of memory, a bit of logic, creativity, problem solving (can be mixed with others) and also I believe that intelligence could be doing the minimum to do the job at hand.

[dead]

Bump.

I haven't taken a real IQ test in years, but was projected as having an IQ of between 160 and 170 when I took one at 11.

It's probably about right. Not meaning to brag, but anything logical is incredibly easy for me.
99% in IGCSE in maths, having not revised or listened in lessons for three years (Teacher was scottish with yorkshire accent. I REFUSE to pay attention to a woman who pronounces Histograms as " 'istograms". Fool.)
Also only person in Newcastle to have progressed to the olympiad round in the annual mathematical challenge set to the top third of pupils in the country by leeds university.

Despite this, my common sense is indeed lacking. At work on thursday, I took a tab break. Customer came into shop, so I put tab out on wall and carried the last half in with me. Whilst serving them, it started smoking again. Not wishing to damage the shop, I put it out on my arm as the nearest convenient surface. Cue being very close to being fired currently.

Extremely high pain threshold + lack of common sense = arm covered in various burn wounds.

[JimmywiT]

Wow. I came out of a proper IQ test 2 years ago with a score of 119, which i believe makes me the stoopidest person in this thread.

[crab]

As if I'd photoshop an image to get you to believe me... the first link is Wikipedia which voids it straight away, the second says the average is 85, not a good start to your argument.

http://www.intelli-test.co.uk

Wikipedia is full of lies, because it's edited by people. This (http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/IQ), on the other hand, is always factual.

[T-Bear]

I have no idea. People who boast about their IQ are losers.

* Response upon being questioned as to his IQ, in interview with Deborah Solomon "The Science of Second-Guessing", The New York Times (12 December 2004) - Stephen Hawking

[crab]

"Scoring high on an IQ test is like winning the special olypmics: Well done, you managed to beat a whole boat-load of retards." - seems to be the general attitude in this thread.

Average IQ I was told is 85 plus your age anyway, and I can't help but feel it was every so slightly wrong because if that was true, I would be just about "Exceptionally gifted" at 139 from a test I done about a year ago.

Ironically, I just done the tickle IQ test and I got 128. Inconsistencies anyone?*

*I haven't been slacking off and drinking that much! :p

I always understood that IQ was adjusted for age.

[carrotcake]

my friend has an iQ of 156, she believes in soap disease

[Timmeh]

People don't seem to realise that IQ has only a very weak correlation with intelligence and no correlation at all with common sense, it's a pure test of cognitive function. Intelligence and cognitive function do not come hand in hand, being cognitively able does aid learning and merely shows that a part of the subject's brain works well. It's entirely possible, for example that a person with an IQ in the 160s could lack ability in all other areas, fail all their GCSEs and end up screwing the caps on toothpaste tubes for the rest of their life while a person with an IQ of 95 could excel in all other areas and work to become a prestigious doctor, solicitor or similar. IQ tests really just map your ability to solve problems and think logically, which is great for me (engineer), I'm playing to my forte, however it's far less critical for... well, pretty much all other career and life choices. Brilliant people can have low IQs, stupid people can have high IQs, I know plenty who'd come well below the national average in an IQ test but are certainly much more intelligent than I'll ever be.

[Lucage]

No idea what my IQ is, and to be honest I don't care. I know I'm intelligent enough and street wise enough to get on with my life. That's all that matters to me.