Assassins Creed or Mass Effect

[Rhiyo]

Im leaning more towards Mass Effect, you guys?

[pyromite]

I'm gonna sound like an idiot asking this, but what is Mass Effect all about?

Right now, I'm leaning towards Assassin's Creed, even though I don't have a 360 or the waste of money known as the PS3. I do, however, have a DS for when it comes out on the DS.

[skoo]

Assassins Creed.

[Rhiyo]

I'm gonna sound like an idiot asking this, but what is Mass Effect all about?

Right now, I'm leaning towards Assassin's Creed, even though I don't have a 360 or the waste of money known as the PS3. I do, however, have a DS for when it comes out on the DS.

Search game play videos on youtube and learn my friend, easiest way.

[Jay]

Assassins Creed.

And Mario Galaxy.

[Dr S]

Assassins Creed, been looking forward since before it got annouced for the 360

[Midget]

assassins creed

(you should've made a poll, man)

[skoo]

I WILL ADD ONE.

+1 to polls

[ray]

ass sassin' creed.

[Jay]

D: Not voting until Mario Galaxys up on teh polls!!1

[Midget]

you should've made it public so we can see who the sci-fi geek with no friends is, man

although, buying mass effect instead of assassins creed is punishment enough in itself :p

[piemastermike]

assassin's creed. lol ass. Twice.

[Rhiyo]

you should've made it public so we can see who the sci-fi geek with no friends is, man

although, buying mass effect instead of assassins creed is punishment enough in itself :p

That would be me, although my brothers getting assassins creed anyway so I will probably be able to play it still :D

[skoo]

So if you voted I guess that means you've made up your mind, making this thread utterly pointless.

[Rhiyo]

Still want to see everyones opinions :)

[skoo]

Fair enough!

[Rhiyo]

Fair enough!

Indeed Skoo mah boi. Indeed.

The Mass Effect character creation looks cool, but I must admit Ass Ass In Creed looks pretty awesome too, but I guess I wont actually know which I like more untill I play them both :-/

[Jay]

I preordered assassins creed the other day and the reciept reads "360ASSASS". This amused me.

[Roxit]

I'll probably get both. But Mass Effect all the way. Ass Creek will probably be shit though after 10 mins of doin big jumps or somthing.

[Lyricaus]

The double ass will win for me, but depending on how well received this ass effect trailer is, I could have two games this week. And all on my week off. shame its the last two days though. (Assuming the websites ship a day early) lol ass.

[Ryanstorm]

mASS effect
although ASSassins creed looks gud

[Lyricaus]

Hmm, yeah mass effect may be an RPG, but it still looks too shooter based for my liking. I prefer oblivion style RPGs. But not Two worlds. assassin's Creed it is then. ^_^

[Jay]

Assassins Creed is twice the ass that Mass Effect is.

[Lyricaus]

God, forever will these games be remembered for their top notch asses.

[ray]

well if you are basing your video game purchasing decisions on asses then i would personally choose jade raymond's ass.

[Youlikeyams?]

Assassin's Creed - it's been getting great write-ups plus the whole free-running thing does it for me.

[White Tiger]

Doesn't mass effect have lots of aliens in with nice asses?
Well big boobs anyway.

[Jay]

Assassin's Creed - it's been getting great write-ups plus the whole free-running thing does it for me.That and Mass Effect is not coming out for the PlayStation 3...:p

[eidderf]

Mass effect, both games seem pretty decent though.

[Kaveman]

Kane and Lynch
:D

[Youlikeyams?]

That and Mass Effect is not coming out for the PlayStation 3...:p

I left that point out as it was bleedin' obvious. :p

[allfalldown]

Kane and Lynch
:DFrom videos I've seen, that just looks like any other shooter, really.

[Youlikeyams?]

The teaser trailers have been good though - especially the one where they talk about GTA4 in the lift. It does look a little bland and plain but it could be good.

[Lyricaus]

The teaser trailers have been good though - especially the one where they talk about GTA4 in the lift. It does look a little bland and plain but it could be good.
Well, while you're buying it as you like it, I hope you're not also encouraged to buy it, just because they mention another game you like? Kinda weird reason to also get the game.

[Mat^]

Mass effect to me seems like a better value for money because the thing is going to be massive and you'll want to play it over and over, but I'm leaning toward assassins creed purely because fucking hell, it really does look like the stuff dreams are made out of.

I wish doing all the flag collecting and extra assassinations would get you more than gamerpoints thoughFrom videos I've seen, that just looks like any other shooter, really.The teaser trailers have been good though - especially the one where they talk about GTA4 in the lift. It does look a little bland and plain but it could be good.The teasers have been really cool, the GTA4 one especially. I'm not planning on buying Kane and Lynch for the single player, the Fragile Alliance multiplayer game is what's made it for me.

I can imagine it being really dull after a few rounds though, so it'll be a rental first.Well, while you're buying it as you like it, I hope you're not also encouraged to buy it, just because they mention another game you like? Kinda weird reason to also get the game.It's not so much that they mention it, it's that they do it and then make references to themselves as being less than stereotypical game characters, the whole idea of making videogame characters not look like they're typical videogame characters is very classy, and is really fitting for the game idea (they're "not" the stereotypical game people, they are bad people! Very bad people!), I wouldn't have thought this was the developers plan until I saw the video.

[Lyricaus]

Hmm...curse you, perhaps I do want Mass Effect now. More games to play at the end of my week off. amidst decorating and relaxing. Meh, either way, I'm getting paid for whatever I do that week. God, I love paid holidays!

[Kaveman]

Hopefully I'll be getting them all, hopefully.

[Lyricaus]

play.com have assassins Creed as listed in stock. Standard edition only. Should be delivered by monday, so long as there aren't any postal strikes. Also, is the collectors edition really worth it? I only heard of it having a dvd I think.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Neither.

[Jay]

play.com have assassins Creed as listed in stock. Standard edition only. Should be delivered by monday, so long as there aren't any postal strikes. Also, is the collectors edition really worth it? I only heard of it having a dvd I think.The one in GAME has a statue/ figure of Altaïr...do want.

[Lyricaus]

I did consider that, but eh. It may upset my big daddy. Who is 3 inches taller than Altair, so he would be like his little sister in a sense. Only a medieval assassin. *ponders*

[RobDonkey]

Mass Effect looks pretty damn interesting.

[Mat^]

I want the toy but I also want the money I would spare from not buying it.

It's quite a toss-up between the two.

[Youlikeyams?]

Well, while you're buying it as you like it, I hope you're not also encouraged to buy it, just because they mention another game you like? Kinda weird reason to also get the game.

Well nah, that kind of trailer is just done to raise interest.
EDIT: I'm not even sure I am buying it.

[Mat^]

I just took a look at some fragile alliance stuff, it's a great idea in theory but I'm almost certain it'll turn dull quickly, what with team fortress 2 being so much better than most anything for multiplayer right now.

[SWE]

Assassins creed, because it's coming out on pc and i dont have a console. If i had a console mass effect would probably be more tempting...

[Thomp]

Both.

[ray]

I like how one of the big selling points about GTA IV was that it was suppose to be the first game to have crowds of people react to your movements and such, now they delayed it assasin's creed will be the first to have done it.

serves you right for delaying it suckas.

[Splush]

I'd choose Mass Effect if I was being forced to pick one but they both seem rather special. I still think some stuff in Assassin's Creed (combat, mainly) looks fairly dodgy but the concept and the review scores seem good enough to ignore that.

Assassins creed, because it's coming out on pc and i dont have a console. If i had a console mass effect would probably be more tempting...
I reckon it'll be on PC sooner or later, Bioware's previous Xbox games have done that and MS are probably desperate to have it as the first really good Vista-exclusive game.

p.s. I fixed the poll to put the significance of AC and ME into perspective.

[ray]

skate has no ass pun splush.

failed.

[skoo]

Adjusted the poll to reflect this.

[Rhiyo]

Would you buy a game if it was based on Jesus? JESUS!

(I am really bored at the moment 2:36 and waiting for sleeping tablets to kick in)

[Jay]

>_< Mario Galaxy shoulda been thar not skate, beeeatch.

[Rhiyo]

>_< Mario Galaxy shoulda been thar not skate, beeeatch.

Nahhh

[Jay]

[/Cries]

[Rhiyo]

Im sorry Mr Jackson EW I am 4 realllll, never ment to make your daughter cry I apoligize something something pie

[Splush]

A new challenger appears!

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z150/splushone/makinbabies.jpg

[Norbington]

Holy shit.

I am getting that.

[RobDonkey]

O_o

What the..?

[ray]

nooooooooooooo i can't change my vote.

[Slurp]

I find the title slightly suspicious- you think it would be imagination babies or virtual babies rather than 'imagine' babies- it may as well be a poster if that's all it delivers.


Also fingers crossed it has Wifi

[RobDonkey]

What is the point in that game?

[ray]

to imagine babies.

[Slurp]

So it would seem

[RobDonkey]

I wonder if Social Services take your DS away if you're crap at the game.

[Dr S]

What is the point in that game?


On PLAY.com ...
Embody a young student who visits her grandmother's house for the summer. Your grandmother leaves to go on holiday and leaves you in charge of her house. During her absence you will have to maintain the house and even decorate it to your taste. In order to do this you will need to earn money by taking care of all your neighbour's babies, where you will find your vocation - babysitting!

thats right you go stay with your grandmother who buggers off ... doesn't seem fair

[Drattigan]

That baby looks incredibly scared. Is the Incredible Hulk taking the photo or something?

[Mercury126]

Assassins Creed, I have really high hopes for it.

[Zhyl]

Assassin's creed. I remember stumbling across it back in the spring time and seeing the original trailer. I was exited to say the least. I got to be the person showing it to my friends. Happy days.

edit: before that even, nobody showed any interest when i first posted it, though:

http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=1391064#post1391064

[Splush]

Ah-ha, "only possible thanks to the PS3s huge power"! Remember when Assassin's Creed being mutiplatform was the worst kept secret ever, due to somebody looking behind a curtain at a show and seeing that the supposed PS3 exclusive game was running on a 360.

And totally unreliable exclusivity claims have kind of been the theme of this generation from then on.

[Roxit]

I'm going to teach my baby Water Spout.

[RobDonkey]

Naaah, Razor Leaf is better.

Or I could call one Psybaby if it's a retard. :P

[skoo]

"Only possible thanks to the PS3s huge power."

Aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

[RobDonkey]

Compared to the SNES. :P

[skoo]

I think he got 'size' and 'power' mixed up.

[GorillaBearBear]

I think Mass Effect.

Assassin's creed just hasn't grabbed me with it's trails or anything, and I suspect it will be a bit of a dud in the end. More style than substance. Mass Effect looks like it has a pretty gripping storyline, and Bioware have a good track record, even though they have done a bit of a peter molyneux with the publicity for it. But then again, I probably won't be playing either for a while.

[Zhyl]

"Only possible thanks to the PS3s huge power."

Aaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

I copied it off the website. They lied to me :(

[Mat^]

I put in a pre-order for 'creed yesterday.

I'm not happy, 'coz I've fuck all time to play it.

[Rhiyo]

Games I want around this time but can most likely only get 2:
Assassins Creed
Mass Effect
Lego Star Wars Complete Saga
Viva Pinata Party Animals
The Orange Box


I hate not being rich..

[Splush]

I'd say Assassins Creed and Mass Effect out of those lot.

Mass Effect looks like it has a pretty gripping storyline
Space lesbians?

That is literally all I know about Mass Effect's story, and I'll miss it because I'll play as a dude anyway. Splush ain't no girly girl!

[skoo]

Someone try and sell Mass Effect to me please. I know very little but the video of it I saw on youtube looked ultra boring.

[Splush]

Did you play Knights of the Old Republic? If so it's like that but with combat a bit more similar to Gears or something, rather than turn-based stuff. Also the conversation system and dialogue choices are supposed to be less stupid and morally boring than older Bioware games, but I think they say that for every game and never quite live up to it. Also space lesbians; lesbians in space.

Honestly just a KOTOR clone with pretty graphics would be enough to sell it to me, I love that shit.

[GorillaBearBear]

iirc the storyline is like a cross between Anachronox and Unreal 2.

Also, it probably won't have shit on Fallout 3 which looks incredible.

[Jay]

I'd say Assassins Creed and Mass Effect out of those lot.


Space lesbians?

That is literally all I know about Mass Effect's story, and I'll miss it because I'll play as a dude anyway. Splush ain't no girly girl!http://kotaku.com/gaming/nsfw/mass-effect-lesbian-love-scene-321340.php

...

[Norbington]

http://kotaku.com/gaming/nsfw/mass-effect-lesbian-love-scene-321340.php

...

That makes me even less keen to play it.

Especially the irritating dialogue.

Also, why didn't they have a male alien option for all the straight ladies/gay men? Isn't this game supposed to open ended or something?

[ray]

according to other websites i've been on assassins creed's hype train crashed into disapointment city.

[allfalldown]

Assassin's Creed gets a 9.1 from www.gametrailers.com.

[skoo]

The freerunning controls will make or break the game.

[eidderf]

Assassin's Creed gets a 9.1 from www.gametrailers.com.

I always find gametrailer reviews strange, the rating the games get don't seem to match what the reviewers say. I mean Assassin's Creed is meant to be a stealth game, if the enemy AI isn't very good then that's a big problem.

[ray]

Assassin's creed has been delayed in Australia and New Zealand until November 21st:



Due to manufacturing and freight difficulties during this time of year, Ubisoft Australia & New Zealand were unable to receive their full allocation of Assassins Creed stock required to fulfill all Day One orders.

In an effort to treat all retailers and consumers fairly, Ubisoft will wait until the balance of stock is received in our warehouse before we ship the game. The new street date for Assassin's Creed on both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 will be Wednesday 21st November. Please ensure that your stores are aware of this development so they can correctly answer any customer enquiries they may receive.

Ubisoft sincerely apologise for any inconvenience this delay has caused to your staff and customers.

[allfalldown]

I always find gametrailer reviews strange, the rating the games get don't seem to match what the reviewers say. I mean Assassin's Creed is meant to be a stealth game, if the enemy AI isn't very good then that's a big problem.Yeah, I think you're right there. From the way he was talking I thought it was gonna be a 7 or 8.

[Splush]

I always find gametrailer reviews strange, the rating the games get don't seem to match what the reviewers say. I mean Assassin's Creed is meant to be a stealth game, if the enemy AI isn't very good then that's a big problem.
I get the feeling that they (Ubisoft) overplayed the stealth element in the early hype for the game and it's not really a stealth game except for a little bit of Hitman-style milling around in crowds.

I've read so many game reviews that seem to have no relation to the score though, like I remember 1up's Gears of War review just being a list of complaints with a big fat 10/10 on the end. Perhaps reviewers know that 99% of people just go straight to the score so they just fill the actual review text with meaningless nonsense.

The assassin's creed scores on metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/assassinscreed) are all pretty good right now. 1up's is the lowest at 7/10. I noticed on neogaf.com somebody posted the first review (gameinformer, 95%) and one of the writers from 1up posted "oh wow" and then later edited his comment out, I thought maybe 1up were going to be giving it a 5/10 or something.

[eidderf]

I get the feeling that they (Ubisoft) overplayed the stealth element in the early hype for the game and it's not really a stealth game except for a little bit of Hitman-style milling around in crowds.

If it's not a stealth game what else could it be?

It would be nice to see a demo.

[skoo]

"Free" running. (Press A to be awesome)
Crackdown in the crusades (this would be good for me)
Press A to hear more dialogue as we force you into a linear story. (This would suck)

[Splush]

If it's not a stealth game what else could it be?

It would be nice to see a demo.
Is "action/adventure" too vague? I dunno. Plenty of games have stealth bits in them but aren't stealth games, like Beyond Good and Evil had sneaking sections throughout but you'd never call that a stealth game. It's all pointless semantics either way, it does suck if the AI isn't very good.

[GorillaBearBear]

I'm softening to Assassin's Creed in some ways, but also some of my misgivings seem to be confirmed slightly. I mean, it's an absolutely beautiful game, no doubt about that, and the way combat works appeals to me - some people seem to be saying it's too fiddly, but I quite like that. For example Hidden and Dangerous 2 combat takes a while to master, but when you do it's immensely satisfying being able to take a machine gun post in about 20 seconds.

But then I think the freerunning looks overhyped - especially as it sounds like they've over complicated the control system. I'm reading that the story is sub par because they are clearly building for a sequel, and to be honest, the storyline doesn't sound particularly thrilling or gripping. Also, the AI issues sound really horrible, as in possibly a deal breaker. One of Deus Ex' few bad points was it's AI (shoot a guy with a stealth pistol and the bloke right next to him won't even notice) and towards the end of the game actually annoyed me, so if it's the same in this....

[Splush]

I just watched that gametrailers review, it does look so disappointing seeing them stab a guy in plain sight and just go straight into stealthy mode and have the guards totally ignore you. And the combat with the ring of enemies around you each patiently waiting their turn to attack looks as stupid as ever. But everything else looks so great, I dunno what to think.

Crackdown in the crusades (this would be good for me)
This review (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=87432) dwells a lot on the Crackdown comparison, saying it's incredibly similar but not as good, which I wasn't expecting. Crackdown was great fun though, fortunately. It's a shame they go on to say that there isn't any fun to be had in the world other than the actual missions (unlike Crackdown) and it becomes "quite amazingly repetitive" :(

[allfalldown]

But then I think the freerunning looks overhyped - especially as it sounds like they've over complicated the control system.Gametrailers said the free-running controls were actually a little bit on the simple side, or at least it seems that way until you're being chased.

[Splush]

I think I read that you have a choice to either hold down the right trigger (I think) and have him automatically climb over/up obstacles, or you can do it manually which is harder but you get more control. I might have got that wrong though.

[Jay]

My mate Bob has actually played Assassin's Creed as GAME stores have them in already. He says its fantastic so far, so chill with the worrying people.

[allfalldown]

Yeah, I'm not all that worried. I know the combat and AI doesn't look so hot, but the rest looks decent enough. I'm willing to put up with an sub par story too, I think, if there's going to be sequels.

About the combat and AI, if they had to err one way, I'm glad it was towards stupidity. I've played games where the enemy AIs just block constantly and you can hardly get a hit in. That's got to be worse than AI that are too easy to kill.

[GorillaBearBear]

I think I'm just so bowled over by the simplicity of the Gears of War controls (press a to do everything!) that I'm scared I will find it difficult to go back to actually having to use more than 4 digits.

[Jay]

He said the controls are great, so..I hope thats helpful. You get an in depth tutorial in the beginning anyway, so that'll help.

[Splush]

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z150/splushone/aclol2.gif

:o

I have a feeling I'm still going to break down and get this, just with rather restrained expectations.

[Norbington]

IGN gave it 7.7...

I am quite upset D:

[Mat^]

o lawdy is this some nsfw or WHAT? (edit: seriously, it's so nsfw don't even think about looking at it at work, it's not safe for there!)

http://chugworth.com/crap/jadecomic.jpg

[Thomp]

I want Jade's game!

[Jay]

I think AC is gonna be one of those love it or hate it kinda games then, what with the amount of varying reviews. Still getting it mind.

All but confirms Mario Galaxys better mind :p

[Norbington]

So some peeps are giving it scores of 9+ whereas others are meandering around the 7 area.

I will probably give it the benefit of the doubt.

[Jay]

They are making a trilogy apparently, so at least it can build from here.

Besides, anything over 7.5 is still nothing to sneeze at. It's a decent score when you thing how many distinctly average games come out every week.

[Norbington]

True. I am still definitely getting it.

[Splush]

Egad, IGN called it "one of the top five most disappointing games of all time".

Review scores are stupid really, they're not worth the bother. It all depends on whether the flaws that bothered the reviewer are the same flaws that would bother you.

[Thomp]

Reviews are just their opinions, guys, you may end up enjoying the game.

Don't put AC on a downer just because some people don't like it. Everyone in the gaming industry creamed their pants over Olivion, yet I found it dull... that's MY opinion compared to others. So yeah, if you like the look of AC and think it'll be a good buy, then get it :)

[Jay]

A girl did review it on IGN mind, so it was obviously an unfair score.

(lol jkjk. my gf would kick me in the balls for that.)

[Splush]

The "reviews are just opinions" thing only works up to a point, a score is always going to be subjective but if a review says the AI doesn't work or that the game makes you do the same thing over and over again, I see those as fairly objective things. "If you like the look of it just get it" isn't very comforting either, given that it involves dropping £40. Spending that much money on things just because they look good, and wilfully ignoring professional critics, seems foolish.

Gamespot's review is very encouraging, I must say. The variety between the different reviews is really striking.

[Norbington]

A girl did review it on IGN mind, so it was obviously an unfair score.

(lol jkjk. my gf would kick me in the balls for that.)

Pft. Don't be ashamed. It's true. A read of review of Batman Begins that said it was rubbish (LAWL!), which was written by a girl.

Girls don't understand these things.

[Thomp]

The "reviews are just opinions" thing only works up to a point, a score is always going to be subjective but if a review says the AI doesn't work or that the game makes you do the same thing over and over again, I see those as fairly objective things. "If you like the look of it just get it" isn't very comforting either, given that it involves dropping £40. Spending that much money on things just because they look good, and wilfully ignoring professional critics, seems foolish.

Gamespot's review is very encouraging, I must say. The variety between the different reviews is really striking.

That's all true, but in the end it's what the consumer, themselves, thinks. Sometimes the professional critics will review a game that may a genre that isn't their favourite. You do get some reviewers saying a racing game isn't brilliant, but then again the Racing genre may not be their most liked genre.

[Splush]

That's all true, but in the end it's what the consumer, themselves, thinks. Sometimes the professional critics will review a game that may a genre that isn't their favourite. You do get some reviewers saying a racing game isn't brilliant, but then again the Racing genre may not be their most liked genre.
Well I'd hope nobody would assign somebody that doesn't like racing games to a racing game review, but I see your point. I'm not saying professional reviews should be taken as gospel by any means, just that your attitude of "buy it if you think it might be good" is impractical when games are so expensive.

Pft. Don't be ashamed. It's true. A read of review of Batman Begins that said it was rubbish (LAWL!), which was written by a girl.

Girls don't understand these things.
This is way off-topic, but I thought Batman Begins was rubbish, which was an impressive feat given the level of talent involved. I think if you take away the fact that everybody loves Batman and look at the actual film it's a piece of shit really.

[GorillaBearBear]

Spiralling otu further into Batman territory briefly, I think Splush is being mean about Batman Begins. Admittedly, it was terribly terribly written, but the direction and cinematography is incredible. Acting maybe not so good.

[Splush]

It's very shiny and nicely made, but the plot was just so rote and predictable and Bale (who I'm usually totally gay for) was completely charmless as Batman. I totally didn't care about it by the last half hour.

Wait a minute, Assassin's Creed is very pretty but (apparently) gets boring and repetitive towards the end! Maybe this isn't so off-topic.

[allfalldown]

Seeing as you've brought up Batman Begins, I hated that they seemed to be using Gary Oldman as comic relief. I think I might have died a tiny bit inside because of that.

On topic, I'm still getting Assassin's Creed, regardless of review scores.

Also, lol at the Jade Raymond thing.

[Norbington]

I figured that mentioning BB would bring out you crazies who don't like it.

Stop being so silly.

Back on topic! I shall most likely be getting AC and MA as well...

EDIT: Also it may have been mentioned already but my secondary source for gaming info has given AC a juicy 9/10 \o/

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/assassinscreed/review.html?sid=6182793&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

"Quite simply, Assassin's Creed is one of the best games of the year."

[ray]

Egad, IGN called it "one of the top five most disappointing games of all time".

see it's already winning awards

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Mass Effect for sale now:
http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2850708#prod_prodinfo

Better get it before they realise.

[Mat^]

man this is the second fucking time this year toys are us have done this THIS YEAR.

[RobDonkey]

They're good at it clearly.

[Splush]

And it's gone :(

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Ouch :D

[Midget]

pah

it seems i have a lot less money than i thought i did, so i won't be getting these two or mario galaxy for a little while :(

(although the ign review of assass was putting me off anyway, so maybe it'll be better if i can see what you guys think first)

[Jay]

IGN UK gave it like...6.5, and IGN AUS gave it 8.7. I don't know who to believe anymore.

[Splush]

I don't recall seeing a major game getting such mixed reactions before, it's weird. Not that anybody's giving it really bad reviews, but there's a marked difference in tone between the two sides. Either way I threw caution to the wind and ordered it so I'll soon see for myself.

[Norbington]

6.5 is pretty poor...

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

If you go to http://www.stickam.com/profile/mikegoro
You can see some guy playing Assassin's Creed live.

[eidderf]

Gametrailers did another strange video review today of Kane and Lynch, they had minor problems it seems but overall it was very positive and it got an 8, which isn't a terrible score or anything but compared to the AC review that seemed much more negative, the final score seems kind of random.

[Splush]

If we've established anything its that review scores suck. I think it would be great to have a reviews site that just wrote brief, unpretentious reviews explaining a game's good points and weak points, and didn't bother with scores at all. But I suspect nobody would read it, which is generally a problem.

[ray]

i like waiting for the something awful video game reviews because they are short and have a good point.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/video-game-article/index.php

also you have to read the dead rising strategy guide on there.

[Splush]

Also they're written by the guy who used to write Lost in Appleton which was a good comic!

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z150/splushone/comics/dnf.png

Thread is so off-topic :(

[Norbington]

I think you'll find that the best internet reviews are written by a man named Yahtzee over at escpaistmagazine.com.

For example, here is his review of Halo 3 http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/2304-Zero-Punctuation-Halo-3

It is a video review so really you have no excuse.

[Jay]

Splush is playing the game now?!

WTF!!!

HOW???

[Lyricaus]

What!? Jammy gits! I must wait until before 9am tomorrow to play it! (hoping royal mail don't fuck up)

[Thomp]

I was hoping my pre-order for AC would come a day early again, like Bioshock and Halo 3 did.

I'm sorely disappointed :(

[Lyricaus]

Likewise. Even more so, since I paid for nine AM delivery. Yet the email lists it as being shipped on the 14th. Yesterday. Wheres my frigging game!? I'l be fine, so long as it gets here tomorrow morning. Come on you striking royal bastards, deliver my game!

[Splush]

I made a specific AC thread because this one is messy and I'm anal :o

http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?t=69081

[ray]

o lawdy is this some nsfw or WHAT? (edit: seriously, it's so nsfw don't even think about looking at it at work, it's not safe for there!)

http://chugworth.com/crap/jadecomic

quick mat get rid of it before ubisoft sue weebl aswell.


November 15, 2007
VIA EXPRESS MAIL AND EMAIL
Attn: Richard Kyanka
webmaster@somethingawful.com
RE:
Infringement of ASSASSIN’S CREED Mark and Jade Raymond’s Personal, Privacy, and Publicity Rights

Dear Mr. Kyanka:

We are counsel to Ubisoft Entertainment S.A. (“Ubisoft”), publisher of the popular video game ASSASSIN’S CREED and employer of Ms. Jade Raymond (“Ms. Raymond”). Ubisoft is also the owner of the following U.S. trademark applications for the ASSASSIN’S CREED mark (the “Mark”): Serial No. 78850944; Serial No. 78866696; and Serial No. 78850968. In consequence of Ubisoft’s extensive efforts and expenditures, substantial goodwill has been built up for Ubisoft and the products and services sold under the Mark, and the ASSASSIN’S CREED game is one of the most widely anticipated games of the year.

Ubisoft has recently learned that the extremely offensive pornographic image (the “Image”) accessible at http://sabretooth.mirror.waffleimag...dd47ceb2a5.jpg, a copy of which is attached hereto, is being used on your website located at http://www.somethingawful.com and/or other related sites, including, but not limited to, http://forums.somethingawful.com (collectively, the “Site”). Such Image and misuse of the ASSASSIN’S CREED mark constitute trademark infringement, dilution, and unfair competition in violation of common law trademark rights, the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §§1125(a) and 1125(c), and state law.

Furthermore, the Image’s blatant, vile, and unauthorized misappropriation of Ms. Raymond’s name and likeness, and your conduct in using the Image on your Site, have caused immeasurable harm to Ms. Raymond’s reputation and career, and constitute an egregious infringement of Ms. Raymond’s personal rights and privacy rights. The Image and your conduct also constitute an egregious unauthorized commercial exploitation of Ms. Raymond’s rights of publicity in violation of, without limitation, her common law rights of publicity and California Civil Code §3344, which provides in relevant part:

“Any person who knowingly uses another’s name, .., photograph, or likeness, in any manner, on or in products, merchandise, or goods, or for purposes of advertising or selling, or soliciting purchases of, products, merchandise, goods or services, without such person’s prior consent…shall be liable for any damages sustained by the person or persons injured as a result thereof.”

It is well established that a person who commercially exploits the name or likeness of someone without their consent is liable for all of the damages caused thereby. Additionally, the Image and your conduct in using the Image on the Site constitute unfair business practices and false advertising in violation of the California Business and Professions Code; intentional infliction of emotional distress; a violation of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §1125(a); and harassment, which is a criminal offense.

Please also note that any failure to comply with applicable privacy laws may result in direct action against you by the Federal Trade Commission, in addition to other litigation.

Ubisoft hereby demands that you immediately: (1) permanently remove the Image from your Site, databases and servers and prevent any further uploading or display thereof; (2) permanently cease and desist all unauthorized use and hosting of images using the ASSASSIN’S CREED mark and Ms. Raymond’s name and/or likeness; (3) provide us with the name and contact information of the person who originally created and/or posted the Image; and (4) complete, execute, and return to me the enclosed Declaration by November 16, 2007 to confirm that you are complying with Ubisoft’s demand.

While Ubisoft hopes to resolve this matter quickly and without resort to further legal action, Ubisoft reserves all rights to seek appropriate legal relief, including attorneys’ fees, injunctive relief, statutory damages, costs, and enhanced damages.

Sincerely,

David Anderson
for Nixon Peabody LLP

Dave Anderson
Nixon Peabody LLP
555 West 5th Street, 46th Floor
Los Angeles, CA 90013
(t) 213-629-6095
(f) 866-532-8491
dlanderson@nixonpeabody.com

[Norbington]

Oh wow...

I can understand they might be shitty about them using the Assassin's Creed trademark or whatever but surely a webcomic artist can say whatever the fuck they like about Jade Raymond in the same way that people make thousands of comics about George Bush etc?

[skoo]

There is a difference between doing that, and doing that to make money.

Of course, there is the flaw in Ubisofts plan... I don't think SA were making a profit from the toon.

[cybus443]

skoo look at my toppppic

[skoo]

Don't be such a cocksmuggler.

[Splush]

Lowtax's reply to that legal threat is worth posting:

From: Rich "Lowtax" Kyanka [mailto:webmaster@somethingawful.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:06 PM
To: 'Anderson, David'
Cc: A BUNCH OF FRENCHIES
Subject: RE: NOTICE: Infringement of ASSASSIN'S CREED Mark and Jade Raymond's Personal, Privacy, and Publicity Rights

Please let it be known that hereforth I have read the express mail and email sent thereforth by Famous Lawyer David Anderson of the Famous Lawyer Law Business of Nixon Peabody LLP, and furthermore a declaration shall be expressed on the part of Internet User Rich “Lowtax” Kyanka that thatforth herethrough I have conducted rigorous tests implemented through a vigorous barrage of legal studies, and furthermore hitherthrough these rigorous tests have therefore proven Famous Lawyer David Anderson of the Famous Lawyer Law Business of Nixon Peabody LLP shall be recognized as a man of the fag persuasion.

Pursuant to the United Dairy Council

Rich “Lowtax” Kyanka
Internet

[Rhiyo]

I got my copy of Mass Effect :) came out early in Australia

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

I got my copy of Mass Effect :) came out early in Australia

Hmm Australia, UK gotta wait till 23rd, maybe special delivery would get it to me quicker...

[GorillaBearBear]

Has anyone else seen the Assassin's Creed ads here in the UK?

Where they just show some game footage and then slap Teardrop by Massive Attack over the top. That is some lazy ass advertising right there. The song doesn't even fit very well.

[woobi]

I had a go of a friends assassins creed yesterday, and I didn't really like it.

No guns or explosions.

Which Mass Effect has.

That' why I voted for Skate.

Because it's out and it's awesome.

:/

[Splush]

Word up, my skate brother. Keep fighting the good fight.

Has anyone else seen the Assassin's Creed ads here in the UK?

Where they just show some game footage and then slap Teardrop by Massive Attack over the top. That is some lazy ass advertising right there. The song doesn't even fit very well.
One of the old trailers has Lonely Soul by UNKLE and it was awesome. Except internet people were bitching about how it was inappropriate to the time period and such, whiny buggers.

[Mat^]

It's pretty much the same ad, only the good one has more violence and some blood:

Good one, lonely souls. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq--BVch9xw)

Shitty one, teardrop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nROoc5Hng9Y)

[Norbington]

Yo my gaming homies I'm here to lay down some Mass Effect reviewage on your puny white asses. Proper bo. Respekt. Etc.

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/833/833640p1.html

9.4/10 so good news.

Now all I need to do is score me an Xbox 360.

[Mat^]

finally, I was waiting for an IGN review.

[Cjw]

Yeah I thought the ad was poor as well. Looks like a really poor AMV or whatever you call them.

[Norbington]

finally, I was waiting for an IGN review.

You're welcome.

[Splush]

Loadsa Mass Effect reviews here: http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/masseffect

Also this comment from IGN is a real gem:

9.4, I knew this game was overhyped and overrated

http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/psyduck.gif