Mario Galaxy - The Best Game Ever? [Archive]

Youlikeyams?

13-11-2007, 11:32 PM

Am I the only one who has found that Nintendo magazines tend to be biased? I've especially noticed the UK edition of the official magazine tends to blow scores for Nintendo-published games out of proportion - they gave Mario Party 8 an undeserved high score when many other reviewers had looked down on it. Then again, maybe I'm being biased because it's the 1100th Mario game.

That's not to say it wont be any good. Because it probably will be good. But it's still Mario.

skoo

13-11-2007, 11:36 PM

Wait it didn't even get 10/10 for everything, how can it fucking POSSIBLY get 11/10 overall?? I hate this kind of shit.

Jay

13-11-2007, 11:44 PM

Its almost definatly a error, but I found it funny all the same :p

And Yams, true Mario Party didnt deserve it, the other reviews showed this...but Super Mario Galaxy is getting super high marks in every review, so it obviously means that the game deserves the praise its getting. And it might be another Mario game, but when you consider how good Mario games (the proper ones, not sports and stuff) are...you can't really complain.

The Offical Nintendo mag one only gave it 97% where as the EuroGamer website gave it 100...does this make them seem less biased?

eidderf

14-11-2007, 12:12 AM

That's not to say it wont be any good. Because it probably will be good. But it's still Mario.

Would you prefer if it was some kind of magical dolphin?

basstard

14-11-2007, 12:24 AM

Wait it didn't even get 10/10 for everything, how can it fucking POSSIBLY get 11/10 overall?? I hate this kind of shit.

The subcategories don't mention everything though. They only look at certain factors - sound and graphics are two my shoddy Italian can pick out.

I mean, it's like a Lotus Elise. Based purely on subjective factors like luggage space, number of cupholders and practicality, it's hopeless, but the whole package - what you get - is fantastic fun.

I think that analogy is vaguely applicable, anyway.

Am I the only one who has found that Nintendo magazines tend to be biased? I've especially noticed the UK edition of the official magazine tends to blow scores for Nintendo-published games out of proportion - they gave Mario Party 8 an undeserved high score when many other reviewers had looked down on it. Then again, maybe I'm being biased because it's the 1100th Mario game.

I'm not really trusting any single-format magazine for reviews any more - it just seems to me they are more likely to be inherently biased. Especially magazines with 'official' in their title.

It is the joy of the internet that I can now look at something like GameRankings or similar to find a whole gaggle of reviews for one game. In this case, SMG has a 97.4% average review, from a whole host of sites and magazines, so I wouldn't put this down necessarily to Nintendo-only publications being biased.

Midget

14-11-2007, 12:35 AM

just gonna reiterate what everyone else said in less words

a nintendo magazine gave a mario game a high score? absolutely meaningless

although i will get this game and do admit it looks good, it most definitely won't be "the best game ever"

(yeah i know it's got good reviews from other sites, but (and tell me if i'm wrong) i think other games have scored higher)

Jay

14-11-2007, 12:47 AM

:rolleyes: This was ment as a joke thread dudes, its obviously a misprint and I thought it was pretty funny error. Just laugh, don't get all deep.

And Midget, Mario Galaxy has an average of 97.4 so far according to GameRankings. The highest rated game ever on there is Zelda OoT with 97.6...which would make Mario second. But it needs two more reviews before it can be counted in the top ten...so anything can happen.

WraithMaster

14-11-2007, 01:00 AM

I've played it already. I must admit it's pretty fun but the thing that bugs me is that it's the same basic formula as Super Mario 64, only with Wii gimicks. That and it's waaaay too easy. New powerups are ok, that's the general Mario thing, but after the same basic idea with every game ("oh noes! Bowser has taken teh Princess! lolz the princess is in another castle" and "collect our shiny stars for us cause we're too lazy to do it ourselves") it get's kinda bland after a while, to me anyway.

Just to make sure you don't all think I'm insane or something like "lolz i love to shoot pplz heads off, not get coins, mario sux", it WAS fun for the time I played it, the premise is just getting stale to me.

ZekeyLizard

14-11-2007, 06:39 AM

I HATE MARIO CAUSE A MAGAZINE MISPRINTED A SCORE GRRRRRRRRR

[/this thread]

I got to play a demo at Gamestop the other day. I thought it was fun and cute like Mario should be.

Youlikeyams?

14-11-2007, 07:41 AM

Would you prefer if it was some kind of magical dolphin?

They should totally remake Ecco the Dolphin again.

:rolleyes: This was ment as a joke thread dudes, its obviously a misprint and I thought it was pretty funny error. Just laugh, don't get all deep.

To be honest I think they did it intentionally to say LOOK THIS GAME IS THE BEST THING THE WII HAS TO OFFER. But it is funny all the same.

Norbington

14-11-2007, 07:44 AM

but after the same basic idea with every game ("oh noes! Bowser has taken teh Princess! lolz the princess is in another castle" and "collect our shiny stars for us cause we're too lazy to do it ourselves") it get's kinda bland after a while

I'm finding myself having to agree with this statement.

I love Ninty and they could keep making more Mario, Zelda and Metroid games till the end of time but god damned lets get something original please...

Cjw

14-11-2007, 08:03 AM

New powerups are ok, that's the general Mario thing, but after the same basic idea with every game ("oh noes! Bowser has taken teh Princess! lolz the princess is in another castle" and "collect our shiny stars for us cause we're too lazy to do it ourselves") it get's kinda bland after a while, to me anyway.

To be honest, I'd prefer they stick to the same sort of formula than go all over the place like a certain blue hedgehog did.

I think there's a fair amount of change per Mario game other than the basic plot. SM64,Paper Mario, Sunshine and Galaxy are all very different games yet they all feature the same basic plot with a few changes along the way.

Luna

14-11-2007, 09:33 AM

The story is mostly repetitive, but I don't buy Mario games for the storyline.

vichaq

14-11-2007, 12:43 PM

what a game yaaar.....hmmmmmmmmm Dil Khush Kar Ditta....

alexj9

14-11-2007, 01:12 PM

Looking forwood to buying this game.

AngryPaul

14-11-2007, 01:27 PM

Does it actually say its out of 10 though?

Slurp

14-11-2007, 03:44 PM

It seems to have achieved 9/10 for use of the Wiimote, which makes sense.
Although I could be very, very wrong

doctor_fruitbat

14-11-2007, 03:52 PM

I doubt it's a misprint; no editor worth his salt is going to miss an obviously incorrect score depicted in huge yellow digits. Whether or not he chooses to change it for comedy value or to prove a point is another matter, though.

ray

14-11-2007, 03:57 PM

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117935396.html?categoryid=1269&cs=1

I like how it says this review is sponsored by Sony at the top.

There’s clever art design on many of the planets Mario visits, but given the vastly superior quality of the graphics in a game like “Ratchet and Clank: Tools of Destruction,” currently available for the PS3, “Galaxy” looks old fashioned and lifeles

Kaveman

14-11-2007, 04:34 PM

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117935396.html?categoryid=1269&cs=1

I like how it says this review is sponsored by Sony at the top.

Please tell me that review was satire.

Drattigan

14-11-2007, 04:34 PM

Would you prefer if it was some kind of magical dolphin?I don't know a single person who wouldn't enjoy playing as a magical dolphin.

Jay

14-11-2007, 05:30 PM

Play Ecco for the DreamCast and you will eat those words Drattigan.

crab

14-11-2007, 07:13 PM

I'm with the "nice game, but I don't get all the fuss" camp. Yeah, it looks like a pretty good game, but in all honesty, I don't see that it's all this super-happy-fun awesome crap.

But then, I haven't finished Mercury Meltdown yet (it's hard!)

Norbington

14-11-2007, 07:27 PM

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117935396.html?categoryid=1269&cs=1

I like how it says this review is sponsored by Sony at the top.

"As good as the game is, though, it’s evidence of how bad the Wii is for third person action games, a problem first made clear in last year’s “Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.” Holding the nunchuk, which moves Mario, and the Wii-mote, which makes him jump and spin, in separate hands, is an awkward arrangement."

lolwut?

Slurp

14-11-2007, 07:42 PM

http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117935396.html?categoryid=1269&cs=1

I like how it says this review is sponsored by Sony at the top.

I'm so sorry to spark off a fanbouy argument with a relatively pointless comment, but surely, if a game can score this incredibly highly with such 'limited' graphics, it kinda defeats the purpose of more expensive games and consoles.

Yes sorry, I realize what I've done, I'll go and bury my head for the next twenty years

Chris

14-11-2007, 08:24 PM

Fanboy? You mean like this?

http://forum.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=1718895

matt bird

14-11-2007, 09:14 PM

sometimes i sit and lean back and take in how human nature is to talk about so so so much inconsequential shit

then i reply

Splush

14-11-2007, 09:37 PM

Half-Life got 11/10 in an American magazine and then they later changed it because they realised it was kind of stupid.

edit: the score, not the game

the last sheika

14-11-2007, 09:38 PM

That'd really cock up metacritic...

Norbington

14-11-2007, 09:48 PM

Half-Life got 11/10 in an American magazine and then they later changed it because they realised it was kind of stupid.

edit: the score, not the game

Yeah.

Half life deserved at least 12/10

Cerberus

14-11-2007, 09:51 PM

It's going to be a good Friday/weekend.

Rhiophe

14-11-2007, 10:39 PM

Oh I can't wait either:notworthy.
As a nintendo fan tho I have to be honest and say:
The graphics good but the game still looks a little kiddy (I mean the bee outfit PLEASE)

The mario brand (and zelda storyline, sorry ninty) is wearing so thin it's invisible. Just how many adventures/sports/<insert any other physically possible hobby or popular craze here> can one plumber get involved in?

Seeing the graphic on the review it seems the princess is back I must therefore also wonder just how far bowser/koopa is away and just how much kidnapping has been involved.

YOU WILL look like an idiot waving your hands around like you have some demented limb related torrets syndrome, with controller and nunchuck held hard so you don't chuck them at anything in a fit of anger. (which you still inevitably will :)).

Still ninty make the best rpg/adventure platformers around period. Have doubts about the wii controls, try playing (for instance) an old zelda game such as ocarina o' time then compare with twilight princess. Remembering when you do to compare the graphics and overall gameplay to the game that was officially the best ever released in the n64 era (according to the official ninty mag of course).

Regardless of my initial fears Mario galaxy will still rock, and will still have more fun factor than a lot of other better graphic powered expensive competitors. Roll on delivery day :D

doctor_fruitbat

15-11-2007, 01:57 AM

I'm so sorry to spark off a fanbouy argument with a relatively pointless comment, but surely, if a game can score this incredibly highly with such 'limited' graphics, it kinda defeats the purpose of more expensive games and consoles.
Given that I love my PS3 for arguably stupid reasons, I'd agree with you to a point. Mario Galaxy is so beautiful that it changed my opinion of the Wii's graphical potential; I still maintain that things like procedural animation, which will become more prominent over the next generation, have a lot of potential and are far out of the Wii's reach in terms of processing requirements, but Mario Galaxy definitely shows that a low-power console, especially when based on old, familiar technology, can produce some really quite pretty results.

Which is also why I'm hoping that they'll keep with the Cell processor for the PS4, now that I actually know the basics of programming for it; a multitude of Cell processors have a stupid amount of processing power, but games are such that coding them for Cell is difficult, especially if a game isn't built for Cell from the ground up. Familiarity with their structure will breed far, far better performance.

But back to the point in hand, Mario!

MARIO!!

CoX

15-11-2007, 09:42 PM

I hate to detract from this huge review debate, but...

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4159/dscf2901vg6.jpg

I just got back from GAME in Oxford Street. :D

Got it signed by Charles Martinet (the voice of Mario) who was in the store too. Even told my girlfriend over the phone to "give-a your boyfriend a big smoochie-smoochie".

He was a really nice chap, had time for every fan even though the GAME manager was all "keep moving keep moving". Lots of people turned up in costume - a guy in a Chain Chomp outfit won a special prize of a Wii and a free copy of the game, and everyone else in costume got offered one free Wii game of their choice. The 1 hour 20 minute wait in line (which only increased once we started queueing up) was made bareable by all the friendly staff handing out pizza and drinks for people in the line. All in all it was well worth it.

Oh yeah, and the game is pretty good too. The disc, I mean. Not played it yet. Bragging on the internet is far more important. :p

More pics (spoilered in case you have some weird thing about not wanting to see game cases or title screens):

http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6150/dscf2906wi2.jpg
(wtf i got some of my hair in the case already?)

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9343/dscf2911kl1.jpg

Ignore the bad quality on that second one, its just my camera and my TV disagreeing. The picture is lovely and clear. Also ignore the messy TV set-up.

Updates maybe later tonight.

BRB PLAYIN' SUM MARIO GALAXY

Jay

15-11-2007, 09:46 PM

You lucky motherf...

Chris

15-11-2007, 09:46 PM

Charles Martinet.

Legend!

Kaveman

15-11-2007, 10:02 PM

You lucky motherf...

ditto

thunderbal33

15-11-2007, 10:05 PM

the last sheika

15-11-2007, 10:16 PM

People at my school were discussing Charles Martinet today. I don't know why. He was on the radio or something.

So... full sentances, eh? Mario has been learning.

CoX

15-11-2007, 10:46 PM

So. Opinions time.

Might just be me getting used to it, but the controls aren't as good as they are claimed to be. The camera (which isn't perfect) can make running at some angles awkward, often resulting in fatal accidents with Goomba collisions or falling into a black hole. Like I said, might just be me getting used to it though.

The rest of it?

Absolutely stunning. The graphics are vibrant and gorgeous (although still not as good as a 360 game, despite some claims) with numerous effects and happenings going on around you to make the whole world seem amazing. The level design is a huge breath of fresh air, and brings platforming to a new level. The way you are encouraged to make huge leaps of faith and go places you would normally dare not - for example, walking along the side of a platform instead of top - is simply mind-blowing.

Despite some teething issues which I'm sure will fade into insignificance soon, this is the best platforming game, the best Mario game and, dare I say it, the best Nintendo game of the last ten or so years.

Youlikeyams?

15-11-2007, 11:13 PM

Solid words CoXy! I must try it for myself (by which I mean blackmail by brother into buying it as I would never be caught buying a Wii game, it would ruin my reputation as Sony fanboy supreme).

Play Ecco for the DreamCast and you will eat those words Drattigan.

They should totally remake Ecco the Dolphin again.

inb4jay

Splush

15-11-2007, 11:45 PM

I haven't had any issues with the controls so far, it's more issues with "oh god I'm running on the ceiling what's going on", but that's obviously the point. I've only done the first three stars but it's fantastic fun so far, I'm well impressed. It's such a cliché but Nintendo's attention to detail and the obvious amount of thought put into every little thing is mindblowing. Especially after a few hours of Assassin's Creed which is good but definitely flawed, putting in Mario Galaxy is like "oh yeah, thats how you design a game!"

Also, you are a lucky bugger cox, that sounds cool.

Fishmonster

15-11-2007, 11:49 PM

Had my copy since wednesday. Though to be honest I would've rather waited and met Charles Martinet. My impression of the game is simple. Bloody fantastic. I finally feel as though my Wii has a purpose.

I have only stumbled into control issues a couple of times on the far side of a clear planet. Things get kinda disorientating sometimes.

CoX

16-11-2007, 12:24 AM

Yeah, the control issues were me really getting to grips with them. I've played for a couple more hours and realised it was my fault, not the game's.

The camera is still a bit niggly, but otherwise, a fantastic, near-perfect game.

Jay

16-11-2007, 12:26 AM

...11 out of 10 worthy?

ZekeyLizard

16-11-2007, 10:13 AM

...11 out of 10 worthy?

Mario is great.

BUT 11/10 BREAKS THE LAWS OF PHYSICS.

JAY, YOU FOOL! WHY DOST THOU FOOL WITH TIME AND SPACE!?

NOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...........
http://www.space-art.co.uk/images/artwork/formations/Big-Bang.jpg

and lo, the universe did implode. and the only sound that could be heard through the darkness was "mamma mia"
and so, on the 8th day, God wept

da end

Midget

16-11-2007, 02:21 PM

fuckkk i really want this game but ive got no money... anyone fancy buying it for me? :p

CoX

16-11-2007, 03:23 PM

...11 out of 10 worthy?No. But the average of 97% is pretty accurate. I'd give it 98% personally. After all, no game can ever be perfect at the end of the day.

Chris

16-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Yes.
YES! I'VE GOT IT! OMIGODOMIGODOMIGODAHHHHH!

I'm gonna actually start playing in a few minutes.
Then i'll have a heart attack.

Kaveman

16-11-2007, 04:57 PM

¬.¬
You guys get to have all the fun... grrr
Damn my lack of money.

Mat^

16-11-2007, 05:32 PM

Game are doing a pretty cool deal where you get the game cheap if you trade in zelda.

I've got zelda.

So... I'll get it cheap tomorrow.

woo-hoo?

Kaveman

16-11-2007, 05:58 PM

Dammit, I give in. I'm getting it tomorrow. NO EXCEPTIONS

Splush

16-11-2007, 07:52 PM

Game are doing a pretty cool deal where you get the game cheap if you trade in zelda.

I've got zelda.

So... I'll get it cheap tomorrow.

woo-hoo?
Damn I wish I'd known about that, I've played like two hours of Zelda and I'm never going to touch it again. It just sits on my shelf mocking me, making me feel bad :(

Mat^

16-11-2007, 08:15 PM

Same here, I just got bored of it somewhere in the goron temple, dull dull dull.

the last sheika

16-11-2007, 08:43 PM

While I've been through it twice.

<3 Mortal Draw on Lizalfols

Cerberus

16-11-2007, 09:13 PM

and lo, the universe did implode. and the only sound that could be heard through the darkness was "mamma mia"
and so, on the 8th day, God wept

Hehe, mamma mia.

I've just fought against Bowser for the first time, I was quite amazed, I think it was a, the music and b, the pace.

Super extreme.

Also, the opening with Mario imitating a plane. Lulz.

Norbington

16-11-2007, 09:17 PM

Damn I wish I'd known about that, I've played like two hours of Zelda and I'm never going to touch it again. It just sits on my shelf mocking me, making me feel bad :(

Same here, I just got bored of it somewhere in the goron temple, dull dull dull.

Both of you, get out.

Mat^

16-11-2007, 09:34 PM

My main beef with zelda specificly is that there's just this constant build up and then no payoff, I play that kind of game for decent story so you can excuse the fact that I'm not feeling obligated to carry on with something I already know the ending to (lemme guess, exactly what happened the last 900 zelda games?), I mean there's not even any characterisation, I know link is meant to be you and therefore you're going through what he's going through but it doesn't sit right with me, I want him to be angsty about his situation, having been thrown into this destiny bullshit that he's had no control over, not just stupidly couragous, the other characters aren't much better for this either, no-one really stands out at all, it's also much worse than wind waker from an artistic standpoint, WW had a fantastic look and feel (as well as vast characterisation for even tiny roles), whereas TP had average visuals, he even had motivation in WW, his sister was kidnapped, what was he doing stuff for in TP? The village gets saved not long into the game and he's never been outside it, what does he care about the rest of the world?

Also the wolf stuff is fuuuucking boooooring.

When it was out, fine, one of the best things the wii had to offer, but I'd gladly trade it in for galaxy, which doesn't even pretend to be something it's not, it's a "fun" game, not needless progression for no gratification.

Drattigan

16-11-2007, 10:19 PM

My friend's bringing Galaxy around tommorrow. Oh, it's going to be great.

Oh, and:
HAI GAIZ I BORT RATCHET AND CLANK TODAY WADDA I WIN?? :D:D:D

Kaveman

16-11-2007, 10:26 PM

Oh, and:
HAI GAIZ I BORT RATCHET AND CLANK TODAY WADDA I WIN?? :D:D:D

A dissatisfied stare.

thunderbal33

17-11-2007, 09:36 AM

omfgwtf i bought mario galaxy yesterday.

I even had to drag my dad out in the morning when i was at school for him to get it XD it was smart, for some reason Woolsworth only had 10 COPIES!!! O_O

Anyway i think its bloody brilliant! The graphics are fantastic for the Wii. The controls work very well , the 2 player co-op is decent. And all the new stuff is brilliant!

I love going on a big planet then triple jumping off the edge and he just hangs upside down in the air and lands under the planet

CoX

17-11-2007, 11:07 AM

Hehe, mamma mia.

I've just fought against Bowser for the first time, I was quite amazed, I think it was a, the music and b, the pace.

Super extreme.

Also, the opening with Mario imitating a plane. Lulz.That Bowser fight is immense. Its just so so cinematic, and you can see what the Wii can actually do in terms of graphical power - just look at Bowser. Just LOOK AT HIM.

And you're right, the music for that bit is stunning. It wouldn't be out of place in a Pirates of the Caribbean movie.

I need to find me the soundtrack of this game.

Jay

17-11-2007, 01:29 PM

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

...OoT has been dethroned by Mario Galaxy!

(PS my uber impressions laters)

Mat^

17-11-2007, 01:41 PM

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

...OoT has been dethroned by Mario Galaxy!

(PS my uber impressions laters)I like that halflife 2 is technically in that list three times.

Cjw

17-11-2007, 02:23 PM

Oh my. Oh my.

This game just oozes quality. I know everyone is going to be saying it, but this game is just so much better than sunshine was.

Chris

17-11-2007, 02:40 PM

I played Super Mario 64 , Sunshine and Galaxy all together today.

My lord how shit Sunshine now seems! The graphics look Crap Compared to Galaxy, Utter crap! I'm so glad there's no more FLUDD.

Norbington

17-11-2007, 05:45 PM

So there I was getting vaguely bored of this game and then it threw ice skating at me.

Frickin' awesome.

Plus I just got a message on my Wii message board from Toad. Nice touch.

Slurp

17-11-2007, 05:58 PM

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/simpleratings.asp?rankings=y

...OoT has been dethroned by Mario Galaxy!

(PS my uber impressions laters)

...That's quite something

the last sheika

17-11-2007, 06:15 PM

...That's quite something
Indeed.

Not that OoT is the best game I've played before now, of course. There're two SNES, two N64, and two GameCube game that I preferred...

Wii and NES get no love.

Dick Champion

17-11-2007, 07:32 PM

Amazon delivered it yesterday morning and I've probably put in about 6-7 hours altogether. Currently my housemates are downstairs shouting and playing at it - in that order. While they're occupied I thought I'd give you lot my impressions.

It looks great, as many here have said already. Because it only has to render a relatively small amount at any one time, everything looks very very pretty indeed. It's constantly surprising, each galaxy has a completely different feel to it, and I've been playing with a constant grin on my face the entire time.

The galaxies themselves consist of several small planets with a puzzle or two (or three) to solve before you can progress to the next one. As a result, the learning curve is pretty flat, and - after getting used to the weird perspectives - anyone who has played mario 64 will be pretty comfortable and will probably walk the first half of the game with little or no problems.

Even though I found it easy, there's more than enough fun going on for it not to bother me. Later, you can revisit areas for extra challenges with different sets of rules. Some of these can be pretty difficult. I even ran out of lives on one particular challenge :O.

The new suits are a mixed bag. Some of them are great, others are a bit gimmicky, but overall I'm pleased.

So far I've loved every minute. My only gripe is that I didn't get a shiny coin for pre-ordering the thing, but I hear that nintendo are going to sort that out in due time.

More to follow once I've finished it. At the rate I'm going that shouldn't be too much longer.

esquilax

17-11-2007, 09:56 PM

Bought it today. It's a little bit weird getting used to running around on very strange angles and controls, but I think I'll get used to it.

However, what I found weirder, was about five minutes in, Mario appears to be having sex with a rabbit. This disturbs me.

Don Squadron

17-11-2007, 10:10 PM

Super Mario Galaxy (or, Suzza Mazza Gazza as I playfully refer to it as) is quite simply, amazing.

That is all.

Luna

17-11-2007, 10:46 PM

I can't say I like the health bar adaption, or the fact that each main Galaxy has 3 main stars and then hidden ones (I much prefer the old 8 episode per level design), but this is a terrific game, it looks splendid considering the Wii's power and the hyper-realistic, life-like graphics of the PS3 and 360. The level design is phenomenal, if slightly cold and occasionally lifeless in comparison to the levels in Mario 64 (just because of all the black space around), and the gravity effects are brilliant.

cyber_turnip

18-11-2007, 12:14 PM

I agree with the health bar and 3 missions thing.

It's a really great game though. I found the controls a little awkward at first but you get so used to them after a little while.

I was grinning so hard when I saw Luigi in that haunted mansion galaxy. Mainly because the ghost-themed Mario levels always seem to be my favourites.

thunderbal33

18-11-2007, 04:17 PM

Kaveman

18-11-2007, 05:52 PM

Picked it up yesterday, all I can say is WOW.
I spent nearly all day yesterday and today on it. I need 4 more stars to save Peach.
My favourite thing to do is jumping of "planets" then flying round to the other side thanks to the gravity. I do this for ages.
The only bad thing about this is, it's gonna end... soon.

Slurp

18-11-2007, 05:56 PM

So it's pretty short then?

Roachy

18-11-2007, 06:25 PM

Letters with the stars on them, IT SEZ "U R MR GAY" LOLOLOL.

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4089/largeeh0.jpg

Kaveman

18-11-2007, 06:48 PM

So it's pretty short then?
Yes, well, the story is short. Because it's easy just to skip loads of stars...
I've ranked up around 15 hours I would say on it. Which is much more than most of the good games out now; Bioshock, Gaylo 3, CoD4 - although the last two have multiplayer, mario has a much larger replay value as it is just fun :D.
Well it's either short or I'm good at it.

oh and @Roach: OLD NEWS IS OLD

Jay

18-11-2007, 07:21 PM

You need less stars to complete it, but there are still 120 stars...so it is just aslong.

Plus it has an awesome bonus for getting all 120 so..go get 'em!

CoX

18-11-2007, 08:33 PM

I need to find me the soundtrack of this game.Lucky Japanese Club Nintendo bastards can now buy it from their version of the Stars Catalog.

WANT

Jay

18-11-2007, 08:59 PM

They can get a Super Nintendo controller that works with the Wii too! How unfair is that?! Bet its awesome for Super Nintendo Virtual Console games.

The sound track is absolutly AMAZING btw.

basstard

18-11-2007, 09:06 PM

They can get a Super Nintendo controller that works with the Wii too! How unfair is that?! Bet its awesome for Super Nintendo Virtual Console games.

The sound track is absolutly AMAZING btw.

You can buy adaptors (http://www.retrousb.com/index.php?categoryID=80) for SNES and NES pads.

If I get a wii I'm after the SNES adaptors.

Mat^

18-11-2007, 09:07 PM

<Mat^> says:
I did that bit in galaxy where you run through the things and each one you run through you get a note of the underground song
<Mat^> says:
it was fucking sexy
Joshwang says:
i know right
<Mat^> says:
and the rocky road thing where it plays the old durrnahnuhnah music
<Mat^> says:
I was wistling along
Joshwang says:
heh
<Mat^> says:
it is just so great
Joshwang says:
it is seriously totally awesome
Joshwang says:
man you should have played the first boss battle with Bowser
Joshwang says:
so so epic
<Mat^> says:
I have
<Mat^> says:
omgggg
<Mat^> says:
I stopped just after 'coz I started some time this afternoon and then oh shit it's nine o clock
Joshwang says:
heh

Cjw

18-11-2007, 09:21 PM

Ice Mario is easily my favorite Mario transformation. Skating around as him then jumping is quite brilliant.

The game is incredibly satisfying. I'm glad I avoided watching alot of the videos before I bought it, it's been much more surprising that way.

Jay

18-11-2007, 09:33 PM

Speaking of Ice Mario, I love the music for him...think I've heard it before but I can't put my finger on it.

The return of the power star is also awesome (along with the music and the way he runs!)<3

Havent had the Fire Flower yet mind, I'm very much looking forward to it though.

Kaveman

18-11-2007, 09:38 PM

I love the flying star, makes mario look soviet.

cyber_turnip

18-11-2007, 10:17 PM

You need less stars to complete it, but there are still 120 stars...so it is just aslong.

Plus it has an awesome bonus for getting all 120 so..go get 'em!

121 stars actually, and incentive to collect 120 of them twice in slightly different ways... which means there's actually more to do than in 64 or Sunshine! Just not to finish the plot.
It's great for completists though.

Jay

18-11-2007, 10:27 PM

Oh yeah I forgot about the fabled hidden star.

[EDIT] Oh yeah, there needs to be more talk about the awesome hidden one star galaxys, which classics like that ball balancing and ray surfing!!

Cjw

19-11-2007, 12:18 PM

Ray surfing was awesome!

The penguins are also quite fantastic.

thunderbal33

19-11-2007, 03:27 PM

i agree with Ice Flower Mario being the best

Luna

19-11-2007, 09:10 PM

I had hoped it would take me slightly longer than three days to finish it, but I suppose really I'm still only half way through, and I guess I could go through Sunshine or 64 in the same amount of time. I still think that this is, without doubt, the best thing on the Wii, and one of the best Nintendo games I've played in years.

Norbington

19-11-2007, 09:29 PM

I still think that this is, without doubt, the best thing on the Wii.

Metroid Prime 3 is better.

Kaveman

19-11-2007, 09:38 PM

I LiEK 2 Sh00T ThaINGS!11!!!!1

Fixed :p

Norbington

19-11-2007, 09:50 PM

There's way more to MP3 than shooting things young man.

I quite dislike most FPSs.

Kaveman

19-11-2007, 09:54 PM

There's way more to MP3 than shooting things young man.

I quite dislike most FPSs.

hehehe, I do know these things. I have both MP1 and MPH, and played MP2.

Norbington

20-11-2007, 07:36 AM

Then shush.

Kaveman

20-11-2007, 07:12 PM

Guess who's completed U R MR GAY!

...me

Chris

20-11-2007, 07:15 PM

Completely?
If so, How good is Mr.L?

Kaveman

20-11-2007, 07:46 PM

Completely?
If so, How good is Mr.L?

No...
Just the story, I have 57 more stars to get...

Cjw

21-11-2007, 10:22 AM

Spring mario is without a doubt, the worst mario i've ever played as in a mario game.

His erratic bouncing is just a massive pain in the arse

Chris

21-11-2007, 01:30 PM

I think i have 49 stars.

I've banned myself from the Wii.

I need to go to work dammit!

thunderbal33

22-11-2007, 08:58 PM

Spring mario is without a doubt, the worst mario i've ever played as in a mario game.

His erratic bouncing is just a massive pain in the arse
QFT, I bounced into a enemy just to get rid of the constant moving and bouncing

Chris

22-11-2007, 10:12 PM

I quite like the Spring...
Prefer the others though.
Especially the Ice flower. :mushroom:

Norbington

25-11-2007, 05:11 PM

I have 38 stars and am now dreadfully bored of this game.

I apologise.

evan223

25-11-2007, 05:22 PM

I have 38 stars and am now dreadfully bored of this game.

I apologise.

Give it me please.

I'm thinking of getting a Wii game for Christmas and im not sure whether to get Super Mario Galaxies or Metroid Prime, which one would you people suggest?

the last sheika

25-11-2007, 05:34 PM

I got Super Mario Galaxy today.

It's a bit... well, like all Mario games, not really that great. The camera really cocks the game up sometimes, moreso than in your average platformer due to the gravity things... why can't you always centre the camera behind you, rather than just when you're on top?

Midget

25-11-2007, 05:54 PM

i'm guessing the answer to the title is no then?

Norbington

25-11-2007, 05:55 PM

Give it me please.

I'm thinking of getting a Wii game for Christmas and im not sure whether to get Super Mario Galaxies or Metroid Prime, which one would you people suggest?

Metroid Prime 3 is definitely my game of choice.

the last sheika

25-11-2007, 05:58 PM

Metroid Prime 3 is definitely my game of choice.
http://serebii.net/Shiny/DP/132.png

Shiny Ditto!

Norbington

25-11-2007, 06:22 PM

http://serebii.net/Shiny/DP/132.png

Shiny Ditto!

Good for you.

Agreeing with me is always a good idea.

Chris

25-11-2007, 08:35 PM

I'm gonna have to disagree.
Metroid to me Is Incredibly Boring.
Finished It.
Wasn't Impressed.
Mario Galaxy.
BRILLIANT!

The thing Is that I like First-Person Shooters but dislike this.

cyber_turnip

25-11-2007, 09:14 PM

I'd have to say Mario Galaxy and this is coming from a huge Metroid fan who isn't too fussed about Mario on the whole.

Chris

25-11-2007, 09:16 PM

I love you!

Dick Champion

25-11-2007, 09:18 PM

Haven't really had a chance to play it as often as I'd like what with being half way through my degree and all. Too many essays and whatnot. Even so, I'm 70 stars in.

The last half dozen or so stars have been fairly challenging. If the game had started at this difficulty, or at least got here a bit quicker, a fair few people would be happier. I'm pretty sure I've covered most of the easy to get ones, so it should be even better from this point on.

I stongly advise anyone who is bored of the easiness to stay the course.

Flying mario is wonderful. Favourite galaxy so far is matter splatter. So much fun!

Chris

25-11-2007, 09:20 PM

Purple Coins In Toy Time is a Bitch

the last sheika

25-11-2007, 09:27 PM

Any level with "Bowser in the Dark World" music has got to be good, though...

Kaveman

25-11-2007, 11:57 PM

People seem to complain about the camera in SMG alot... I rarely have problems :/

Jay

26-11-2007, 12:01 AM

Nor me...

I downloaded the soundtrack for Mario Galaxy the other day..my god its bliss.

I'd say this over Metroid also..which is really said through gritted teeth as I'm a huge Metroid fan. That doesn't mean Metroid isnt good mind, because its just superb..but Mario Galaxy is really something special.

Luna

26-11-2007, 06:47 PM

Purple Coins In Toy Time is a Bitch

Second, how the hell are you supposed to do that level?

the last sheika

26-11-2007, 06:58 PM

Nor me...

I downloaded the soundtrack for Mario Galaxy the other day..my god its bliss.

Link?

The reason I don't see why it's so good is mainly just that I don't like platformers, I suppose. But of the platformers I have played, there doesn't seem to be anything at all that makes Mario stand out.

EDIT: http://forums.ffshrine.org/showthread.php?t=47170 You need to register, but I'm told that's the whole thing, from the best source there is yet.

Spüne Gooman

29-11-2007, 05:16 PM

Second, how the hell are you supposed to do that level?

I thought it was too. I died about 100 times. Then I found out, you had to get 100 coins, but there is 150 coins! So you don't have to worry getting all of them. I get all of them on the first section (leaving some green squares still there because you have to come back that way for the star at the end) do a long jump across the gap and go around the whole Luigi, coming back to where you started and you should have 100 coins if you have got everyone in your way.

That's not to say it wasn't the hardest part of the game. But never due to camera problems, messy programing etc. You can really tell Mario Galaxy is a well made game, it is difficult at times, purely because it is difficult. Never unfair.

cyber_turnip

29-11-2007, 05:30 PM

I beat the Purple Coins In Toy Time on my 2nd go, and I'm not saying I'm a Mario guru or something because I've found some pretty straight forwards levels really hard.
I think maybe it helped that I realised there were over 100 coins to choose from on my 2nd go? I found the purple coins in the bone pen level much harder, though even that didn't give me too much hassle once I realised there were 150 coins again.

Chris

29-11-2007, 05:39 PM

Spüne Gooman

29-11-2007, 05:56 PM

OMG! Leik lol doods i wass justt warnining you aboot how hard ITwas jeezz:bb::bb:.

I didn't find It too difficult. (7th go I think)
There's a trick to It. (wink wink)

Hardest level for me was Lava Spire Daredevil Run
And even after I lost about 30 lives I never felt frustrated.
Or castrated.
See my Rhyme?
Lime?

Well there you go because I did that on my first go. :)

I think actually Melty Molty Lava Pain and Horror Galaxy was my favourite. I loved the music and the volcano and everything.

Norbington

29-11-2007, 06:05 PM

I traded this game in today.

I wish I could have managed to get into it but I've played it once in 2 weeks and it was boring me.

Mario fails to make me love him yet again.

Shalashaska

29-11-2007, 06:09 PM

http://http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/wii/review/R119687.html

Infidel.

cyber_turnip

29-11-2007, 08:07 PM

Hardest level for me was Lava Spire Daredevil Run

Same here for me unless I'm forgetting another hard level which I guess is entirely possible, my memory is a bit rubbish after all.

Spüne Gooman

29-11-2007, 08:49 PM

SPOILERS

Is the game any harder when you play with Luigi? I'm finding it much harder, and I'm sure it isn't just because he handles differently...

Chris

29-11-2007, 10:28 PM

The Cosmic races are definatley harder.

I prefer Playing as [DELETED] though.
He's just better and taller.

mrsnuffles

30-11-2007, 06:13 PM

so my housemate left his wii in the living room and i was bored

SO MUCH FUN!!

Magicmonkee

02-12-2007, 09:28 AM

All the advertisements are annoying... they make me totally obsessed about it, and ask questions to myself e.g: "Are the graphics really that amazing or have they used a HD link" "What? Co-op mode on Mario?" (That girl holding boulders with the remote).

We must all worship this game!
:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy:notworthy :notworthy:notworthy

Fredvdp

02-12-2007, 12:06 PM

I love this game and it's the best game I played on Wii so far. The best game ever is Super Mario World on the Super Nintendo, in my opinion. Sometimes when I get bored, I still play that game, more than ten years after I played it for the first time. I don't see Galaxy having that effect on me.

Norbington

02-12-2007, 12:21 PM

The best game ever is Super Mario World on the Super Nintendo, in my opinion. Sometimes when I get bored, I still play that game, more than ten years after I played it for the first time. I don't see Galaxy having that effect on me.

This sort of thing confuses me...

I understand that the games we played as children will always have sentimental and nostalgic value and will always be special to us but does that really make them better than modern games? I mean I still play Sonic the Hedgehog on occasion when I've got 20 minutes to kill and it's always a delightful wander down memory lane. However, I'm under no illusion that Sonic is a better game than say the new Prince of Persia games...

I'm betting that in 15/20 years time there will be young adults just like us talking about how the modern, fully immersive, virtual reality games are just not as good as the old skool classic Mario Galaxy or Guitar Hero that they played in their childhood and we all know that this will largely just be bollocks.

Sure there's a lot of utter shite being churned out by gaming companies nowadays but I'm sure that this is also true of the NES era... it's just that we don't remember the complete tripe.

So yeah by all means you can have strong feelings of love for those awesome games you played as a child but let's not pretend that these games are actually better... it's more that you were just young and you thought anything interactive was the most awesomest thing ever. (It was)

(Sorry for off-topic rant...)

Tempest

02-12-2007, 12:36 PM

This sort of thing confuses me...

I understand that the games we played as children will always have sentimental and nostalgic value and will always be special to us but does that really make them better than modern games? I mean I still play Sonic the Hedgehog on occasion when I've got 20 minutes to kill and it's always a delightful wander down memory lane. However, I'm under no illusion that Sonic is a better game than say the new Prince of Persia games...

I'm betting that in 15/20 years time there will be young adults just like us talking about how the modern, fully immersive, virtual reality games are just not as good as the old skool classic Mario Galaxy or Guitar Hero that they played in their childhood and we all know that this will largely just be bollocks.

Sure there's a lot of utter shite being churned out by gaming companies nowadays but I'm sure that this is also true of the NES era... it's just that we don't remember the complete tripe.

So yeah by all means you can have strong feelings of love for those awesome games you played as a child but let's not pretend that these games are actually better... it's more that you were just young and you thought anything interactive was the most awesomest thing ever. (It was)

(Sorry for off-topic rant...)

I don't get what there is to be confused about

he prefers super mario world to the newer marios, and enjoys playing it even now

Thats his opinion and regardless of flashy graphics or new gameplay ideas and larger areas, he enjoys it more.

Just like I enjoy halo 1 more then halo 3, or the fact I still play battletoads approximately 9 years after I first got it (still can't finish the god damn thing, I swear its the hardest game ever)

cyber_turnip

02-12-2007, 02:13 PM

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles > nearly every other game ever

Spüne Gooman

02-12-2007, 02:21 PM

cyber_turnip

03-12-2007, 12:56 AM

Agreed.

The Virtual Console has proved that jut because something is 'retro' doesn't mean it is classic.

(Plus, I prefer Mario 3! :D)

Yeah but at the same time it proves that some retro games are miles above alot of the stuff today. I mean, I only got to play Super Metroid thanks to the VC and I think it's probably the best Metroid game out of the lot (and I've played through every single canon game in the series).

My point is that games aren't automatically better or worse based on their era. Some NES games are better than your average current gen game, but at the same time some current gen games are better than retro games. It's like films. There are some absolutely fantastic films from as early as the 20s and they still stand up against more contempory works, but at the same time there are countless fantastic films being made and released every year. You have to take each individual game on it's own merits. Fredvdp simply prefers Super Mario World to all the 3D Mario games which is understandable as it's quite different. I personally was never much of a Super Mario World fan and so I do prefer Super Mario Galaxy, but I myself am torn as to which is better out of Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Bros. I'd probably go with Galaxy but it'd be a close pick for me.

The Grim Reaper

03-12-2007, 01:15 AM

Littleshore

03-12-2007, 07:23 AM

According to a friend of mine, this game is reason enough to buy a wii

*Ooh Sparklies*

03-12-2007, 09:55 AM

I acquired the soundtrack yesterday. As sad as it is, I blummin' well love it! Especially Toy Time Galaxy and the Honeyhive Galaxy ^_^

I do think it has an outstanding soundtrack though.

Chris

03-12-2007, 05:00 PM

I love the Honeyhive Galaxy theme!
Lurve!
And the Manta surfing music.

Spüne Gooman

09-12-2007, 05:40 PM

Got my copy yesterday...
Completed the first observatory thing and i'm onto the next.
Has anyone managed to pass that level called like sugar world or something that appears after you feed that hungry luma and you have to run on the moving tiles with shapes in them?

I went through all 15 of my lives trying to complete that, then got a game over and tried again and died another 4 times, then didnt have enough chips to feed it again.

Now its disappeared - i missed out on a star. :( Any consequences of getting game over?

No consequences. I shouldn't have disappeared. Once a Hungry Luma has transformed it should appear as a regular Luma but pink and you need to talk to it again.

The trick is for this level... I think anyway, is to take your time and keep jumping.

Catface

15-12-2007, 06:35 PM

Trust me. Play it. Anyone who said anything bad about the game will surely burn their hair off with shame. Not fire. Shame.

Norbington

15-12-2007, 06:41 PM

I didn't like it that much and traded it in for guitar hero.

You can keep your shame. I have my rock.

Chris

15-12-2007, 06:42 PM

Shun the non believer.

Shuuuuuuuuuuun.

Kaveman

15-12-2007, 08:25 PM

I didn't like it that much and traded it in for guitar hero.

You can keep your shame. I have my rock.

*Jumps on Norbington's head*

100

And that's why Mario pwns.

Norbington

15-12-2007, 08:43 PM

Shun the non believer.

Shuuuuuuuuuuun.

Don't make me kick your arse at GH again.

Chris

15-12-2007, 08:50 PM

Low blow. :(

Fredvdp

16-12-2007, 09:32 PM

This sort of thing confuses me...

I understand that the games we played as children will always have sentimental and nostalgic value and will always be special to us but does that really make them better than modern games?

The thing is, to me Super Mario World has no nostalgic value. It's not a thing from the past because I've always played it. I have also played Donkey Kong Country all my life because those games are great. I never said anything about sentimental and nostalgic value so that is not the reason why I like those games more than some modern games (because there are many old games I used to play a lot that I now consider to be crap).

The gaming industry is a bigger market than it used to be. Everyone plays videogames now so a lot of games are created in a short period of time (games based on movies, for instance) and the quality suffers because of the mass production. And many developers focus too much on graphics instead of gameplay. Thanks to the Wii that's changing right now and I play more often than the last couple of years because of that.

If I'd make a top ten list with my favorite games, you would only see games from the SNES and Wii generation, but nothing in between (if we ignore PC games and Final Fantasy XII). So I repeat: nostalgic value has nothing to do with it, it's about gameplay dominating graphics.

On topic: Mario Galaxy is still great. :trex:

Jay

19-12-2007, 08:36 PM

So I now have 119 Stars. Unfortunatly that means I have to do the Purple Coin challeneg on the Toy Time Galaxy.

Anyone have any advice? Seriously, this one star is kicking my ass over and over...

Btw, best game evar still.

cyber_turnip

19-12-2007, 11:13 PM

There's more than 100 purple coins in the level so just run and grab what you can comfortably, don't worry about getting every single one.

banksey08

21-12-2007, 02:54 PM

mario galaxy has the 2nd best review average overall

its 0.1% behind zelda : ocarina of time

CoX

21-12-2007, 10:10 PM

Just completed the game with 106 stars... didn't know you had to beat Bowser to unlock the purple coin galaxies.

I think that is one of the best end boss battles I've ever played. Didn't disappoint at all.

In fact, the whole final level was just amazing. Even replaying the same bit 10 times over because I kept dying didn't make it boring. It was just... wow.

*goes to start again*

Slurp

29-12-2007, 09:59 PM

Played my copy for the first time today, got about five minutes in, on my first proper planet, when my Dad wsnders in and, after a brief pause, says "To be that small and have a sufficiently powerful gravitational pull to stop you from floating away, that planet would need to be a neutron star." He stayed watching for a few moments, and wandered off downstairs.

the last sheika

29-12-2007, 10:28 PM

Played my copy for the first time today, got about five minutes in, on my first proper planet, when my Dad wonders in and, after a brief pause, says "To be that small and have a sufficiently powerful gravitational pull to stop you from floating away, that planet would need to be a neutron star." He stayed watching for a few moments, and wondered off downstairs.
*wanders
*wandered

My dad would be more likely to say "Why is there rabbits? You're a teenager FFS"

Slurp

29-12-2007, 11:13 PM

Yeah, my Pa was all like "I notice you're not playing a game about men with beards killing strangers", he's observant like that

ray

30-12-2007, 05:57 AM

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/892/creamut1.jpg

Norbington

02-01-2008, 06:27 PM

Hello.

First review i generally agree with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/2768-Zero-Punctuation-Super-Mario-Galaxy

Luna

02-01-2008, 06:39 PM

Won GameTrailers Game of the Year

the last sheika

02-01-2008, 06:42 PM

Hello.

First review i generally agree with.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/2768-Zero-Punctuation-Super-Mario-Galaxy
Ditto.

EDIT:
Won GameTrailers Game of the Year
Yes, we already know that everyone loves it...

Chris

03-01-2008, 01:11 AM

Meh, amazingly amazing whilst It lasted ,but now It's finished there's nothing to do.
Finish It twice and that's It.

Prefer Guitar Hero.

Jay

03-01-2008, 01:46 AM

Won GameTrailers Game of the YearAnd well deserved it in my opinion..

[/Prepares for onslaught]

[EDIT] Glad you posted it before Yams btw, now he can't get off on anything for the week :p

the last sheika

03-01-2008, 12:54 PM

[/Prepares for onslaught]
From my point of view, the onsalught is usually against the people who didn't like it.

Slurp

03-01-2008, 06:27 PM

Aye, same here.
If y'all very lucky, I'll probably write a little post flamboyantly revealing my love of this game to the forums

cyber_turnip

03-01-2008, 07:59 PM

Okay, so I just got all 120 stars as Luigi and unlocked the Grand Finale Galaxy, problem is, I can't find where the hell it is on the hub world. :(

Edit: It was hiding ontop of the Trial Galaxies thingy.

eidderf

04-01-2008, 06:46 PM

I got this game for Christmas and haven't played it that much. Not that I don't like it it's just compared to something like Half-life 2 where I keep playing to see what happens next in the story I kind of get hooked but with Mario I can just play it for 30 minutes or so and do other things. I'm still enjoying what I've played though.

The one complaint I do have with the game is probably the shaking the remote to spin, sometimes it fails to react and I don't see why it's needed generally. I mostly either fire a star at them or jump on their heads but I can't be bother to die because it didn't react to the shake.

I'm not that far in yet but I'm looking forward to seeing what else will happen.

Mat^

04-01-2008, 06:57 PM

Just less than 20 stars left to go, don't think any of them are actual planet stuff, just comets and one or two hiddens.

basstard

04-01-2008, 07:05 PM

This sort of thing confuses me...

I understand that the games we played as children will always have sentimental and nostalgic value and will always be special to us but does that really make them better than modern games? I mean I still play Sonic the Hedgehog on occasion when I've got 20 minutes to kill and it's always a delightful wander down memory lane. However, I'm under no illusion that Sonic is a better game than say the new Prince of Persia games...

I'm betting that in 15/20 years time there will be young adults just like us talking about how the modern, fully immersive, virtual reality games are just not as good as the old skool classic Mario Galaxy or Guitar Hero that they played in their childhood and we all know that this will largely just be bollocks.

Sure there's a lot of utter shite being churned out by gaming companies nowadays but I'm sure that this is also true of the NES era... it's just that we don't remember the complete tripe.

So yeah by all means you can have strong feelings of love for those awesome games you played as a child but let's not pretend that these games are actually better... it's more that you were just young and you thought anything interactive was the most awesomest thing ever. (It was)

(Sorry for off-topic rant...)

This is an interesting rant.

I have three thoughts to interject :

One, consider 'classic' cinema. It's not in colour, the special effects are lousy. But arguably some of it is among the best cinema ever made.

Two, consider the very first 'Mario' game, or Tetris. These keep being repackaged and resold to us - first on the NES, then on the SNES, and now on the virtual console. If they pale into insignificance compared to today's games, why do they keep selling?

As someone who thinks the SNES Mario Kart is much better than all the previous iterations, I guess what I'm saying is that spangly graphics alone do not a better game make.

The third thing to consider, and that I submit, is that today there is a much wider range of games and a much greater choice, whereas in the NES era there were less games to choose between. I don't believe the number of great games has substantially increased - although it's slightly larger than NES era, for example - but simply that the proportion of great games to mediocre is now much greater (in that there are many more mediocre games now but still roughly the same number of great ones).

cyber_turnip

05-01-2008, 12:53 PM

Man, that hidden 121st star was a huge let down. What a lame level.

Ringodadog

06-01-2008, 02:01 PM

Any hints on how to do Luigi's Purple Coins? Its one of the last stars I need and its really fecking me off!:mad:

cyber_turnip

06-01-2008, 04:02 PM

Is that the one in the Toy Time Galaxy on the giant pixelated Mario platform thingy?

If so, then just run and collect what you can. Don't worry about missing coins by any means because there are at least 150 coins on that level and you only need 100. Don't run though, jump where ever you go, this will ensure you can make it back to the star (which spawns at the same place you do at the start of the level).
Your best bet is to run around the outskirts of the level and work in a circle which will bring you back. Whenever you see a long line of the coins over a pit of gloop, use your Z long jump to get them all. They help rack up the points.
But ultimately, just don't get bogged down by trying to collect every coin. Collect what you can do comfortably. If it's going to be a bit hard to go back for one, leave it.