Assassin's Creed

[Splush]

That "Assassins Creed or Mass Effect" thread is a bit of a mess so here's a new one.

My copy came a day early and I've played a few hours now, it's very impressive but there's definitely flaws. I'm hoping I'll feel more comfortable as I go along, because the controls are taking some getting used to and the game is only just beginning to take off the 'training wheels' and stop treating me like a baby. The supposedly secret background story is a little irksome just because it feels totally superfluous so far, but it's not very intrusive and maybe it'll become more interesting later on. There is a definite crackdown vibe about it, but in a much more reserved (and less silly) way.

Free running across rooftops and diving into carts of hay willy-nilly makes everything better, anyway.

[allfalldown]

I'm still um-ing and ah-ing over whether I want to get a PS3 now just because this game is out. There's no decent PS3 bundles on though. I'm gonna have to decide kinda soon though, before the money left from my student loan runs out :p

[Jay]

Don't get the PS3 one, apparently it has some pretty bad frame rate problems in the last third of the game.

[allfalldown]

I'm not getting a 360. End of.

Please don't start a console war about that, though. I'll be getting a PS3 because it has the games I want, not because I hate Xbox for no good reason.

[Jay]

D: Fine, happy lagging.

[Tiode]

Why not, allfalldown?

[Erskien_Parkour]

I'm not getting a 360. End of.

Please don't start a console war about that, though. I'll be getting a PS3 because it has the games I want, not because I hate Xbox for no good reason.

Gett a better PC for the same price as the Ps3

go go go.

and I cant wait for Assassins Creed

[Splush]

I'm pretty sure the Gamespot review said the PS3 version has a better framerate.

Speaking of framerate, I'm pleased to say that it seems very solid so far in AC. I worry about framerate with ubisoft games, it really irritated me in GRAW and the last splinter cell game.

[Jay]

Well, IGN sez...

"These big open worlds, which are fully interactive, do come at a severe cost on PS3. There is considerable texture pop-in and noticeable framerate issues. Playing back-to-back with the 360 version, it's obvious that Ubisoft did not devote enough resources to the PS3 edition. The framerate is considerably worse, so much so that it begins to affect gameplay in the later levels. You can get through the first two-thirds of Assassin with the framerate being just an annoyance, but it becomes more of an issue for the final third of the missions."

Anyway.

Can't wait for this game...roll on tomorrow. Hopefully I'll get to GAME early enough for my free preorder hoody!!

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Jay I know you're biased etc. but if people want to get a different console it's their choice, not trying to start a war before any thing happens, just saying.

[Rhiyo]

Stupid freaking postponedness, why is it only postponed in Australia?

[Tempest]

Stupid freaking postponedness, why is it only postponed in Australia?

This.

[crazy-eye0]

I have to wait till Christmas, when nobody will be playing it :(
can't wait though.

[Lyricaus]

Stupid royal mail, before 9am delivery. Its 9.02! I'l get you for false advertising! :P can't wait to play this, although i've heard some people say the instruction book spoils the beginning of the game. Kinda strange they'd do that, since everyone reads it first. Well, I assume.

[Tempest]

Stupid royal mail, before 9am delivery. Its 9.02! I'l get you for false advertising! :P can't wait to play this, although i've heard some people say the instruction book spoils the beginning of the game. Kinda strange they'd do that, since everyone reads it first. Well, I assume.

I pretty much never read the instruction booklet first

only time I read em is if I wanna see how to do something advanced or I get really stuck on how to do something

[skoo]

Splush, is free running just LT+A+Direction or is there a bit more to it? I'm hoping you at least have a chance of failure.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Unfortunately skoo, thats basically it.

Played it for a few hours and it's absolutely amazing.

[Midget]

fuckkk i really want this game but ive got no money... anyone fancy buying it for me? :p

[allfalldown]

Every time I see this thread I wish there were decent PS3 deals on at the moment. Last time I looked in town, only about one of them had a 60gb PS3 in it, all the rest were 40gb :(

[Splush]

Splush, is free running just LT+A+Direction or is there a bit more to it? I'm hoping you at least have a chance of failure.
Yeah pretty much, there is a chance of failure in the sense that if you direct him across a gap too large he will fall to the ground, but there's no timing involved in jumping or anything. The game generally seems really easy so far but I'm hoping it gets more challenging as it goes on.

[Mat^]

Game are doing a pretty cool deal where you get the game cheap if you trade in orange box.

I've got orange box.

So... I'll get it cheap tomorrow.

woo-hoo?

[Norbington]

Game are doing a pretty cool deal where you get the game cheap if you trade in orange box.



...So it's a trade-in?

Doesn't everyone do that?

[Mat^]

I mean a really good deal, as in you get almost £20 off with some specific games, OB being one of them!

[Erskien_Parkour]

5 games for 1?

Uh... good deal? xD

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Hmm this game can get a bit annoying, I was being chased by 3 or 4 guards and I get to a dead end so I try to climb it, a guard knocks me down with his rock or whatever and they corner me and whenever I tried to move the game thought I wanted to climb the wall...

[Erskien_Parkour]

Dont get chased by guards then

:eng101:

[Thomp]

Still waiting for my pre-order ¬_¬

Xbox 360Gamer gave it a 6/10 today, and they're pretty good with their reviews. I'm disappointed in them, as they hyped it up :(

[Cerberus]

My SMG came today, but not Assassins creed :( A friend of mine has been playing it, said it's very good, hopefully it will come tomorrow.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Dont get chased by guards then

:eng101:

Lol if only...

[Lyricaus]

To be honest, I find this game just the right difficulty. Fairly easy, yet I still die a fair few times and have a hard job. Still, amazing game. Love the free running, etc. A well made game so far.

[MeatwagonAction]

Every time I see this thread I wish there were decent PS3 deals on at the moment. Last time I looked in town, only about one of them had a 60gb PS3 in it, all the rest were 40gb :(

eBay

[Jay]

I can't be arse with spoiler tags, so heres a big warning

SPOILERS BELOW

nothing major, as I'm only up to the first main target

Its awesome and all but the guards in the towns and dotted round the fields/cliffs are complete twats. I can't go past them without being attacked. Actually now that I think about it..maybe I'm being done for nicking a new horse every two minutes? Meh, whatever. Everything seems alot more balanced in the towns, the guards act more like I imaginged, they do chase you and attack, but only after you've been an arse to the townsfolk or knifed a guard.

Another thing that bugged me was the Samus style stripping of abilitys in the beginning. It makes more sense than when Samus trips and her shit falls down a drain...but it pissed me off in this more than in Metroid. I think its because in Metroid you lose about four things which you've only had five minutes to play with, where as in this you lose at least eight things...mind you it doesnt help one of them is the throwing knifes and short blade that I loved so much.

Speaking of weapons, the combat can be reasonibly intense, but rather frustrating due to its one button layout. Even more so as I can't counterattack anymore. I actually end up wining fights using throw and hidden dagger combos. One they are down on the floor, you can stab them for a one hit kill. Oh throwing people off buildings is another one of my winning tactics. All hat said I think it could have been a little better around the edges in that respect.

Altaïr is a pretty badass character so far, although he's coming off as a right dick so far. Desmond on the other hand really interests me. When you talk to the woman doctor alone it uncovers bits about his past, which is drawing me in somewhat...I think they did this "twist" thing pretty well so far overall.

The free running is by far my favorite bit, leaping, climbing, swinging and running around at heights is superb and really makes the game. True its a little too easy seeming, but that doesnt change how statisfying it is to hop across four beams only to swing off another, latch onto a windowsil, flip onto the roof and then end it all by diving into a pile of hay.

Overall I am really enjoying it, as Splush said it does have faults, but it is a blast so far. I recon the people who rated it under 8 are complete spacks who were looking for faults in a game that was admitedly hyped to hell. Then again, maybe it goes downhill from where I am.

Fin.

[Splush]

It is weird how guards freak out if they see a horse going at anything above a slow trot in open country. What's wrong with galloping down a big empty road, I ask you? Maybe it is because I keep taking random horses that aren't mine, I never thought of that. It usually seems like you can just keep galloping and you'll get away though, so it doesn't really matter.

[jonffm]

That's it. I'm getting this tomorrow.

Totally can't afford it, but screw it. I'll have a month of tinned meals.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

If guards are chasing you in the kingdom what I do is gallop around in a circle on my horse and just run all the guards over, they usually don't whack you off the horse and if they do just use your speed to your advantage until you find another horse.

Oh yeah also does anyone know how to kill the second target? He came out through the main building but went back in again, I went round the corner blending in with the crowd and the target had appeared again so I just had to combat him, what I really wanted to do was assassinate him though.

[Pilk Man]

SPOILERS BELOW

nothing major, as I'm only up to the first main target

Its awesome and all but the guards in the towns and dotted round the fields/cliffs are complete twats. I can't go past them without being attacked. Actually now that I think about it..maybe I'm being done for nicking a new horse every two minutes? Meh, whatever. Everything seems alot more balanced in the towns, the guards act more like I imaginged, they do chase you and attack, but only after you've been an arse to the townsfolk or knifed a guard.
QFT. The constant attacking in "The Kingdom" did my head in, but I think it's because it's controlled by King James (who's at war with the Assasin's Guild). The first proper town you get to (Damascus - Poor District) is MUCH better in terms of being discovered and escaping etc.

Another thing that bugged me was the Samus style stripping of abilitys in the beginning. It makes more sense than when Samus trips and her shit falls down a drain...but it pissed me off in this more than in Metroid. I think its because in Metroid you lose about four things which you've only had five minutes to play with, where as in this you lose at least eight things...mind you it doesnt help one of them is the throwing knifes and short blade that I loved so much.
This also annoyed me. I was like "Holy shit, if this is the default character, things are gonna be AWESOME!" Then when once you lose the skills you have at the beginning, I get the impression that the whole game will just be leading back to that level of power/skill.

Speaking of weapons, the combat can be reasonibly intense, but rather frustrating due to its one button layout. Even more so as I can't counterattack anymore. I actually end up wining fights using throw and hidden dagger combos. One they are down on the floor, you can stab them for a one hit kill. Oh throwing people off buildings is another one of my winning tactics. All hat said I think it could have been a little better around the edges in that respect.
Once you unlock gangs of vigilantes in damascus (by helping villagers), you can lure guards into them, get them stuck, then close the distance for an easy assasination kill. It's a fantastic way to earn both the Eagle's Will achievement and the Eagle's Claw.

I'm very satisfied with the game atm, but I want my uber powers back! And finding 100 flags in the kingdom with all those twats attacking you is gonna be fun. Don't even get me started on Damascus (found 4 in 2 hours play time).

[Midget]

woahhh can't you just put spoiler tags round it?

i nearly read it all because pilkman went and quoted it

[allfalldown]

woahhh can't you just put spoiler tags round it?This. All you have to do is select the text and click the spoiler tag button. It's on the right, just above the window you type in.

[Pilk Man]

woahhh can't you just put spoiler tags round it?

i nearly read it all because pilkman went and quoted it
Come on, I've told you nothing that you can't find out from the first assasination and the game menus :/

And I even quoted the phrase SPOILERS BELOW in huge letters!

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Just eliminated the 3rd target, I think this game is going to get very repetitive soon as all I seem to be doing is go to x city, eliminate x target and go back to leader, repeat.

[Norbington]

Come on, I've told you nothing that you can't find out from the first assasination and the game menus :/

And I even quoted the phrase SPOILERS BELOW in huge letters!

Well yeah so instead of highlighting all your text and pressing the spoiler button you highlighted some of your text and played around with the size.

The first seems easier.

[Midget]

i don't have the game, how would i know what the first assassination and game menus look like?

just put spoiler tags round it, it isn't difficult

edit: you've obviously missed the point... all the stuff you've quoted from jay apparently contains spoilers too

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Ok guys calm down it doesn't matter.

[Splush]

Has anybody been able to jump off a ledge and do a mid-air assassination with the hidden blade, as seen in some of the promotional movies. That looks really cool but what I inevitably end up doing is stumbling clumsily into the guy and having to hack him to death with my sword, then run off sheepishly. I wanna jump of roofs on to peoples' heads, is that so much to ask?

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Do you mean the one where you fly through the air and stab your blade into their face, knocking them to the floor? If so yes I've done it, was just random though as I just button mash and it kills the enemies - usually.

[Splush]

Yeah that. I always try to stand up on a ledge, select the hidden blade and then target a guy but it seems like once I've targeted them they magically know I'm in combat mode and I can't jump on them unaware. I was thinking maybe it's an ability you get given to you with a promotion at some point.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

What I do is wait till they're looking away from you (obviously) then walk back a bit and run forward for about a second then jump, while you are in mid-air tap x and the right trigger or whatever and hopefully it will work.

[Pilk Man]

I like doing the "hang off the side of a building and assasinate" move.

Let's you hang on the edge of a roof before leaping onto your enemy and killing them. For some reason, the targeting always allows them to throw me off before I can get the knife in :(

[Jay]

Yarr, I have only just gained my throwing knifes back, so I have to pick up the pace a bit.

P.S. Why is my max 5 when it used it be like 17 :(

[Pilk Man]

Yarr, I have only just gained my throwing knifes back, so I have to pick up the pace a bit.

P.S. Why is my max 5 when it used it be like 17 :(
Rank upgrades :)

What do you/can you use the knives for? Is it just like a hit and run thing so you can strike from rooftops and don't have to get so close to your target?

[Splush]

What I do is wait till they're looking away from you (obviously) then walk back a bit and run forward for about a second then jump, while you are in mid-air tap x and the right trigger or whatever and hopefully it will work.
Yay, I managed to stop being a mong and have been merrily plunging my hidden blade into unsuspecting guards all night :o

This game is growing on me a lot. You know how all the reviews seemed to say "great for the first couple of hours, then it gets repetitive"? I'm totally disagreeing with that so far, the first couple of hours were totally boring because it was piss-easy and altair didn't have enough equipment and abilities to be any fun, but now it's started getting harder and altair is becoming more badass it's way more fun. Admittedly the 'investigation' phase has already become very repetitive, but the assassination/escape stuff is great fun.

Rank upgrades :)

What do you/can you use the knives for? Is it just like a hit and run thing so you can strike from rooftops and don't have to get so close to your target?
I've just been using them to kill guards who have spotted me but are too far away to stab quickly. It's pretty badass to stab on guard and then kill his mate with a throwing knife before he can shout anything. I haven't tried them with actual assassination targets yet.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Also has anyone climbed the highest view point in the rich district of Damascus yet? Its a shame there isn't a screen shot feature for moments like that.

[Pilk Man]

Highest I've been is the main church tower in Acre. It's the one from the trailer where he disappears behind the bell. Awesome high.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Ahh yeah, that is a nice view point.

[Mat^]

Really glad I got this, even if getting it meant trading all my games in (bar oblivion).

Good deal actually, I did that, as well as getting mario galaxy and paid £1.50.

omg cool.

[prodigy69]

think I'll go get this today, it looks freakin' awesome :D

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

I haven't tried them with actual assassination targets yet.

Unfortunately the only thing throwing knives does to your targets is make them aware of you.

Storming through this game now, 6th target coming up, has anyone managed to climb the building outside in the garden of the maysaf castle were the leader is? I was thinking that I'd be able to climb it when I get all my upgrades but now I'm not so sure.

[Midget]

woo, my brother got it for his birthday

which basically means i've got it now since he always borrows orange box, cod4 and halo :p

[Splush]

Also has anyone climbed the highest view point in the rich district of Damascus yet? Its a shame there isn't a screen shot feature for moments like that.
I was up there last night, it's epic. I wonder if that was one of the tallest towers in the world, it's hard to imagine any other parts of the world having architecture like that at the time.

[Mat^]

Yeah I just climbed that tower now, damn what a viewww.

[Kaveman]

So I'm thinking about getting this game, would anyone kindly list their pros and cons with the game?
Also, is there time limits on the missions or can you just go run around doing parkour (free running), if you felt the need to?

[Splush]

Pros: Cool game world; really beautiful looking; free running and climbing are really fun; assassination missions generally fun; it's not short.

Cons: Not really anything to do in the huge, beautiful world other than follow the main mission which seems like a real waste; investigation tasks are boring and repetitive; sci-fi premise seems fairly superfluous; probably not much replay value.

But I haven't finished it yet, so I might have more to say later.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Final target coming up (Sad I know)

What's with this whole incident in the future?

I've got access to Lucy and Vidic's computers but I still need filling in, what I've learnt so far is that there are templars in the future who want that treasure that your assassins creed leader has in the past? And something to do with delva airport.

[allfalldown]

Man, I really want this game even more now, reading all your comments. Going to get a PS3 very soon, methinks :p

[Midget]

ooh it's good

love the assassinations, free running and horse riding (never heard this mentioned before i played so i'm gonna spoiler tag it)

not keen on the sword fighting (it's mostly button bashing) and dodgy camera angles though

i'm enjoying it overall, although i'm glad i didn't pay for it myself... i feel that if i did, i wouldn't appreciate it as much and might've regretted it slightly (this is because i'm pretty poor at the moment though.. if you've got the cash then i do recommend this game... if not, try renting first?)

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

OH MY GOD (Spoilers)

So it turns out that your master Aluim or something is your enemy because he is the 10th and last person that knows about the treasure. And lucy the tech woman is actually a member of the creed, it zooms in on her hand and her ring finger is missing...


Hmm, just completed the game: So the other test subjects before you have written about the abyss in blood on the wall above your bed and the treasure is actually a sphere containing the a projection of Earth and loads of targets on the different countries where missiles will hit or something, to wipe out all humans and create the 'new world' that they keep talking about.

[Ryanstorm]

Good game but wayyyyyyyyyy to easy, especially once you have counter attack for fighting

Graphics are brilliant, I love looking from viewpoints

Free running away from guards is sooo fun though :) I love rooftops

And of course assassinating random guards in the street and casually walking off like nothing has happened

I think the highest point i've been on is on the palace thingy in the rich area of dalmascus (or whatever), there's a HUGE tower

A good fun game but to easy and to repetitive, I give it a 7/10

And I'm struggling with the concept of how hay saves you from falling from over 100 foot

[Mat^]

Fantastic game so far (I may have mentioned this), I think I've figured out how it ends after some thinkin' (this is what an A level in media will do for you).

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

I was in Damascus climbing that large tower again but i forgot about the ledge where you could jump into the hay, I remembered when I was tumbling towards my death :/

[Pilk Man]

Is this tall damascus tower the cathedral? It's either in Damascus or Acre but if you can find it, get onto the roof and scale the spire (all the way to the top, then climb up onto the top of the crucifix), it's the most epic view in the entire game!

There's no quick, safe way down though, so feel free to experience the longest, most visually exciting death leap possible.

[Jay]

I bought an Assassins Creed guide and an artbook in GAME earlier, I only wanted the artbook because game art is always freaking awesome and the guide was free with it, and its really cool.

Damn concept art, I only went into the store to buy COD4. But man I love concept art.

[allfalldown]

I've played the first hour or so, just been demoted. So far it's very good. I like how the game interface is actually the Animus interface.

[prodigy69]

awesome game..just killed the 3rd bad guy


the only grumbles I have are the camera control and when your hanging from ledges,
I just feel it could have been tweeked a little bit more, I don't know how to describe it, it just feels a little bit clumsy and slow for an Assassin :D

[Midget]

yeah my thoughts exactly... he isn't exactly as agile as i imagined he would be

it sucks how you can't really climb down things easily too, you pretty much always have to do a leap of faith into the hay

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

If I want to get down from a building i just skip climbing down and jump off... 20hp :D

[Splush]

When you get back the ability to grab onto ledges as you're falling with the B button climbing/falling becomes more satisfying, before you get that power it's a choice between climbing all the way down or falling all the way down. It's pretty cool grabbing a ledge at the last second to avoid hitting the ground.

[allfalldown]

I was wondering why I haven't been able to climb down from some of those viewpoints. When I'm at the top he doesn't seem to want to climb down, so I have to drop three storeys instead.

[Pilk Man]

Anyone else finding the street retards really fucking annoying?

I had to repeat the same informer mission 6 fucking times because they kept shoving me (and for some reason, being shoved by a mental patient apparently makes you suspicious enough to warrant death by sword).

I now routinely shank every single one I see, just to be spiteful.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Yes! Especially those psychos at the docks, they love pushing you off a boat when you are standing on the edge of one, and also when you're running away from a group of those french guards they love to push you into the water...

[Thomp]

My copy's finally come. However, I can't play it until tomorrow night as I have University and work :mad:

[allfalldown]

I just did my first assassination. I'm loving this game so far. The combat isn't as bad as some reviews made it out to be.

Actually, there is one thing I thought could have been better. The interrogation missions. I was expecting it to be some kind of mini-game, where you corner the target, start by threatening them, if they don't talk, beat them up a little bit, and so on. It's not very interesting to just punch them a few times then they spill the beans all at once.

[prodigy69]

I wish there was a cheat to get rid of those bloody beggars and mentalists!! :mad:

[Splush]

Yes! Especially those psychos at the docks, they love pushing you off a boat when you are standing on the edge of one, and also when you're running away from a group of those french guards they love to push you into the water...
Those guys are more scary than the actual guards, I got shoved in so many bloody times. It's a shame that I appear to be playing a witch who dies instantly on contact with water.

I finished the game last night. The ending is both satisfying and completely unsatisfying in different ways. It was a good game in general, but they could have cut out half the stuff you had to do and made it a great short game instead of a good long game. The thing that strikes me the most is what a waste of artists' effort the whole thing turned out to be, the cities and the kingdom are so huge and beautiful but there isn't really that much to do in them. You only really have to visit each district once. It's not a bad thing, it's better than the play area being too small, it's just weird that they'd spend that much time on making a world and relatively little time on giving you things to do in it. I definitely look forward to a sequel though, they could do really amazing things with the concept.

I think those 7/10 reviews were closer to the truth than the 9/10 reviews, but it's definitely a very strong 7/10, and worth playing.

I didn't like the amount of combat there was towards the end, they're obviously really confident in how good their combat is and I don't think it's really deserved. It's fun watching him cut dudes' heads off with counter attacks but it gets a bit old the hundredth time, and the situations where you're completely surrounded by soldiers and they each patiently wait to be killed are just laughable. Too many of the assassinations ended up in big fights where you're basically just waiting for the target to take his turn to attack you so that you can do him some damage.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

Yeah, on the fight with Roberto I just kept running around the circle/ ring until my health regenerated, same with the fight with al mualim.

[Tempest]

BUTTON BASH BUTTON BASH XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Jesus Christ the combat is just so much pressing X.

I'm trying to get the kill 25 guards in open combat achievement but I swear its impossible.

I normally kill about 10 and then just get overwhelmed and die.

[allfalldown]

Have you tried using counter kills? I haven't had an opportunity to use them yet, but I guess they'd be better against large numbers than anything else.

Also, I believe there was some talk a few pages back of how to do the move seen in videos when you kill your target with the blade after jumping from a rooftop. I did it last night. You lock on, hold R1 (or whatever the Xbox equivalent is), then press forward, square and X at the same time, I think. It worked for me sneaking up on those Templar guys. I don't know if you any of you guys have encountered them at all, but they are not to be messed with. Last night one of them cut my horse right out from under me.

Just arrived in Jerusalem on the way to my second assassination. I've been doing a lot of exploring, finding those flags and so on.

[pyromite]

Do we know anything about the DS version? I heard a while ago that it was confirmed, but beyond that I've got nothing but a comic from Penny Arcade.

[Erskien_Parkour]

How does this compare to Theif Deadly Shadows?

[Splush]

How does this compare to Theif Deadly Shadows?
It's very different. The stealth is more like Hitman than Thief, and there's not as much need for being stealthy as you might think. It's an action game with the occasional sneaky bit, rather than an actual stealth game.

I wish people would make more games like Thief, that series is so amazing. A thief-style game in the AC world could work really well, too.

[Dingboy Bob The Slammy Walrus Bitch]

BUTTON BASH BUTTON BASH XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Jesus Christ the combat is just so much pressing X.

I'm trying to get the kill 25 guards in open combat achievement but I swear its impossible.

I normally kill about 10 and then just get overwhelmed and die.

Wait until you get to the Acre assassination at the docks, you will get it then hopefully, there are what seems like seven or eight gangs of those french gits patrolling the docks and when you kill the target they all notice you. Just throw them off the boat :D.

[allfalldown]

I don't think the combat is as button bashy as you say. It can be, if you don't bother doing anything else. At the moment I favour either guarding until I have an opportunity for a counter-attack, or grabbing them and throwing them to the ground. Also, if you throw them into certain wooden structures, it collapses and kills them.

Sneaking up on rooftop archers with the hidden blade is fun too :D

[ray]

double the altairs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_8cmPZ7hfE)

haha glitches

anyway the real world parts of this game suck ass.

"i am scientist get in the anninus machine we need your memory dna"
"i'm a bartender man you want me to teach you martini!?"
"shut up you cant leave we need data BLAH BLAH BLARP BLARC BLAARP"
"oh jeez waaa WAA WAA"
"i am a sympathetic blond generic video game woman with boobs marp mup mup mup"

the assassin part is fun though

[Lyricaus]

Bah. People don't appreciate a good story these days.

[Pilk Man]

Finished it!

Now I just have to find the damn flags..

I'm trying to get the kill 25 guards in open combat achievement but I swear its impossible.

I normally kill about 10 and then just get overwhelmed and die.
It's pretty easy on the road to arsuf, where you're fighting your way through hordes of men to get to robert. Just kill one group and quickly run into the next as you move up the canyon.

[Splush]

Bah. People don't appreciate a good story these days.
I thought the story was above-average, but it took a while to get going, I didn't really appreciate the 'real world' bits until near the end. The main thing I didn't like with the story was how the events in the past had become this genuinely intriguing story of manipulation, political skulduggery and moral ambiguity but at the end it all came down to a clichéd shiny mystical ball that gives you magic powers. I thought they were going the route of the artefact actually being powerless, and just acting as a symbol for the political power of the templars, but then all of a sudden I was fighting a disney villain with an orb of power who can multiply himself and teleport around the place and I was all like *sigh*

[Pilk Man]

I thought the story was above-average, but it took a while to get going, I didn't really appreciate the 'real world' bits until near the end. The main thing I didn't like with the story was how the events in the past had become this genuinely intriguing story of manipulation, political skulduggery and moral ambiguity but at the end it all came down to a clichéd shiny mystical ball that gives you magic powers. I thought they were going the route of the artefact actually being powerless, and just acting as a symbol for the political power of the templars, but then all of a sudden I was fighting a disney villain with an orb of power who can multiply himself and teleport around the place and I was all like *sigh*
Sadly, I'm forced to agree.

The whole game walked the path of "governments and religious leaders use lies to control their people", making me think the game would reveal some kind of idea which would make you think deeply and philosophically about the nature of right and wrong, life and death, good and evil but, sadly, the ending turned out exactly as clichéd as I had expected. To say I saw the "Al mualim is actually the bad guy" ending coming would be a gross understatement as I was trying to work out how hard it'd be to kill him at the end of the game based on the ever-improving skill of the soldiers I was facing.

Another thing which annoyed me was the actual ending of the game. You come out of the Animus, listen to some dialogue which makes you itch to get on with the story of Abstergo, the doctors etc. then it all kind of...ends. You get the achievement for finishing the game seemingly at random in a quite uninteresting part of the game where, in my mind at least, you should be lead you on into another exciting plot device. Having read the text on the wall and the secret achievement for the strange vision, I was left to stumble around the animus/conference room trying to solve a mysterious rune puzzle which actually didn't exist in the first place. Of course it eventually dawned on me that the game was in fact over.

Good game overall, but certainly the cities and missions could have used a lot more variety (as opposed to "go here, kill this, go there, climb a building") as well as a lot more interactivity with the environment itself like conversations with citizens or buying items/equipment from market stalls. I suppose this would make it quite RPG'ish, but the story itself improves your character in an RPG'ish fasion and, having read stories before the release stating you'd be able to customise weapons etc, I felt this aspect of the game fell a little flat.

[Splush]

The glowing magic artefact just reminded me how immature game stories are, it was like they wanted to do a story all about espionage and political power struggles but felt like they had to toss in a magic orb just to make it a 'game story'. It reminds me of Final Fantasy XII to an extent, which did a pretty good job of making an interesting political story in a fictional world but also threw in a bunch of magic artefacts as if a story won't hold our attention if there aren't glowing orbs everywhere. Although to be fair it's not like Assassin's Creed was totally devoid of the supernatural before the glowing orb appeared, the whole concept of genetic memory is pretty fantastical.

The ending in the real world was so bizarrely anticlimatic that I actually kind of liked it. I did wonder if that's exactly how they meant it to be, or whether it was rushed a bit. Either way, I thought it kind of gave you a feeling for how bored and helpless desmond must be feeling in that situation. He knows there's exciting stuff going on and a glimmer of hope (with the girl being an assassin and all) but he's still a helpless prisoner who has to wander around being confused and frustrated.

[Lyricaus]

The glowing magic artefact just reminded me how immature game stories are, it was like they wanted to do a story all about espionage and political power struggles but felt like they had to toss in a magic orb just to make it a 'game story'. It reminds me of Final Fantasy XII to an extent, which did a pretty good job of making an interesting political story in a fictional world but also threw in a bunch of magic artefacts as if a story won't hold our attention if there aren't glowing orbs everywhere. Although to be fair it's not like Assassin's Creed was totally devoid of the supernatural before the glowing orb appeared, the whole concept of genetic memory is pretty fantastical.

The ending in the real world was so bizarrely anticlimatic that I actually kind of liked it. I did wonder if that's exactly how they meant it to be, or whether it was rushed a bit. Either way, I thought it kind of gave you a feeling for how bored and helpless desmond must be feeling in that situation. He knows there's exciting stuff going on and a glimmer of hope (with the girl being an assassin and all) but he's still a helpless prisoner who has to wander around being confused and frustrated.
Exactly how I felt. Also, I'm irritated at the hidden flags. Sure just for achievements, but yet I've spent hours looking for the last one, checking each location twice. Thinking, its really not worth it. *plays other games*

[allfalldown]

I love stuff like the hidden flags. I came back to GTA3 about two or three years after I got it to track down the last hidden packages. When I found the last one, I was kicking myself, because it was in quite an obvious place.

As for the flags, and other hidden stuff, in Assassin's Creed, I've been exploring for it as I travel between areas. I have about 35/100 of the flags in the kingdom, all the Masyaf flags, and some from Damascus and Jerusalem too. I've also assassinated 10 of the Templar knights. Those guys are really tough in combat.

Some of those places in the kingdom are unbelievably well guarded. I was forced to kill the guards at the road up to one of the viewpoints, since there was no way to sneak past.

I've just done the second assassination in Jerusalem, by the way. I'm working my way through this game slowly :p I'd probably be twice as far through if I didn't have other demands on my time though.

[Pilk Man]

I've got all the Masyaf flags, about 40 from the kingdom, about 20 ish from each city and I've killed exactly half the Templars :D

Now that I've finished the game and beaten the Robert/woman ambush and final robert fights where you're surrounded by Templar-level fighters they seem pretty easy on their own.

[prodigy69]

a friend over at b3ta.com [JollyJack] drew this, had me in stitches :D

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/jpg/htp001assassinscreed.jpg (http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk)

money..money..money :D

[allfalldown]

It is annoying when Altair won't move while hanging from a ledge. I don't think the game is anything like as bad as that comic makes it out to be though :p

So far I've resisted the temptation to hit beggars, though I did stab one of those crazy men. Luckily, people who get in your way like that run away like everyone else when it all kicks off.

[Splush]

I am proud that I never got caught hitting a beggar.

On seconds thoughts I dunno if I ever hit a beggar, but I hit a lot of those insane guys.

[allfalldown]

I think that so far the only times I've been chased by guards outside of a mission is when saving civilians (had to kill about a dozen guards for one of those today) and when I've been spotted by archers on rooftops and ignored their warnings to go away.

I've done in 19 of those Templars now, as well. I even beat one of them in actual combat.

[Pilk Man]

Do the guards go for you when you punch people?

I thought it was only when you killed/showed a blade. I know any thugs in the area defend the beggers. Twats.

[Splush]

Actually I'm pretty sure one of the tips the game gives you at a loading screen is that guards won't intervene in fist-fights, but perhaps it depends on who you're punching. It seems like if you go up and punch a random person in the street guards probably should intervene.

[Jay]

I think the acceptible fist fights are with the "thugs" who you can pickpocket. Oh and throwing the poor is okay also.

[Kaveman]

OFFTOPIC-ish:http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9260/msgplusimg6231zh0.png
My mate drew that over MSN, awesome no?

[Lyricaus]

Is that an angry pikmin, or am I totally on the wrong page? and yes, thats damn amazing for msn drawing. He must have one of those sketch pads, surely?

[allfalldown]

He mispelled "assassin's" :p

[/pedantry]

[Jay]

^^ I actually thought that was the joke for five whole minutes. I have no idea how.

[Youlikeyams?]

Just picked this up on Saturday and I adore it. That is all. :D

[ray]

this game is educational

i didn't know people in the olden days talked in constant loops.

[allfalldown]

this game is educational

i didn't know people in the olden days talked in constant loops.I'm not an expert, but I'd have thought it is impossible, or at least as near as makes no difference, to have non-player characters saying something different every time you encounter them.

[Splush]

It's weird how they recorded different voice actors saying the exact same line, as if they went out of their way to make the NPC dialogue extra repetitive. I'm thinking of the people who you can save from being mugged or whatever, they always say that line about going home and not leaving home for a while, but they actually went to the bother of getting different voice actors in to say that exact same line. It shows uncommon dedication to repetitiveness!

[ray]

I'm not an expert, but I'd have thought it is impossible, or at least as near as makes no difference, to have non-player characters saying something different every time you encounter them.

in grand theft auto, people on the street say heaps of different thing depending on the situation and who they are.

you'd think that if ubisoft were going to use the same line they would at least not have looped it.

"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"
"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"
"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"

[Shalashaska]

Basically, this, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Army of Two are the main drive behind me trying to get a PS3.
Assassin's Creed is the shit, I'll have to find out if anyone in my area has it and become friendly with them.

[allfalldown]

in grand theft auto, people on the street say heaps of different thing depending on the situation and who they are.

you'd think that if ubisoft were going to use the same line they would at least not have looped it.

"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"
"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"
"hey thief, i'll have your hand for that"
"oh noooo"True, but even in GTA there's still not an infinite variety of things that people say.

[Kaveman]

I've just signed up to a free-trial for video game rentals, and have ordered Assassin's Creed for rent. Here's hoping for good things.

[Buzzsaw]

Just got Assassin's Creed for my birthday on Thursday, absolutely love it. I was, however, most surprised when I saw the whole Animus and Memory etc. side of the story, but have to say I rather enjoy it.

One thing people might be able to help me with:

Going through the Kingdoms and areas out of cities. Honestly, it's really boring having to blend past every bloody guard everytime I want to go to another city. Is there anyway past this?

[Pilk Man]

Going through the Kingdoms and areas out of cities. Honestly, it's really boring having to blend past every bloody guard everytime I want to go to another city. Is there any way past this?
Kill them.

[Thomp]

Been playing this for a few days now (at last) and I love every minute of it. There's so much to do! It may get repetitive later on, but for now I'm enjoying counter attacking guards and free running all over the place. :D

[Splush]

Going through the Kingdoms and areas out of cities. Honestly, it's really boring having to blend past every bloody guard everytime I want to go to another city. Is there anyway past this?
You can generally just gallop past everything, the awareness thing will go red but you'll be clear of them so soon that it won't matter.

[allfalldown]

Going through the Kingdoms and areas out of cities. Honestly, it's really boring having to blend past every bloody guard everytime I want to go to another city. Is there anyway past this?Yeah, galloping past works. They'll soon lose sight of you, so you can hide somewheres or just keep on to the next city.

You'll probably be glad to hear that after you've done the first three assassinations, you get the option to skip ahead to your chosen destination.

[Pilk Man]

Yeah, galloping past works. They'll soon lose sight of you, so you can hide somewheres or just keep on to the next city.

You'll probably be glad to hear that after you've done the first three assassinations, you get the option to skip ahead to your chosen destination.
Did you make your sig pic? If so, what font did you use?

[allfalldown]

If putting the text and a border on an image from gamespot counts as making it, then yes I did :p The font is Optimus Princeps, and it's awesome.

[Youlikeyams?]

Just finished it, and the ending sucked.
Need the second one ASAP. :(

[allfalldown]

I'm on the final assassination now. First though, I'm going around finding all the flags. I still have the eastern part of the Kingdom to check out (35ish flags left to get from there). Only about 20 Templars left to kill as well. In the cities I have about half of the flags from Damascus and Acre, but only 22 from Jerusalem. Combine all that with the fairly frequent crashes (:() and I'll still be at it for a while yet.

[Jay]

Just finished it, and the ending sucked.
Need the second one ASAP. :(This. Although, I liked the ending.

Felt like an episode of Lost.

Before Lost got shit of course.

[Youlikeyams?]

You don't need to find ALL the flags before the assassinations are done.
You can go back afterwards.

[Splush]

Really vague spoiler: I think the fact they want you to be able to go and get the flags once you're finished it probably partly to blame for the unusual ending. If anything interesting and final happened Desmond wouldn't be able to use the Animus at his leisure.

[allfalldown]

You don't need to find ALL the flags before the assassinations are done.
You can go back afterwards.Ah, that's kinda good to know. Some of the things people had said suggested that this was the case, but I wasn't sure, and didn't want to ask for fear of spoilers :p I had assumed it was like most games, where they just end when you finish them.

[Kaveman]

I borrowed this game from a friend and all I can say is... WOW.
I've been playing it since I came in from school, I just can't put it down. And to think I was never gonna touch this game because of the reviews, that's the last time I listen to reviewers.

P.S I've just killed the Doctor guy in Acre, I'm now going to Jerusalem to kill Jesus(that happens, right?).

[prodigy69]

not sure how long it's been out,

but 1.10 patch is out for Assassin’s Creed..just start the game and it'll download

[Sheepshagger]

not sure how long it's been out,

but 1.10 patch is out for Assassin’s Creed..just start the game and it'll download

what does it do ? ?:|

Originally Posted by Youlikeyams?
Just finished it, and the ending sucked.
Need the second one ASAP.

This. Although, I liked the ending.

Felt like an episode of Lost.

Before Lost got shit of course.


noooo.. that cant be.. such a good looking game but ending sucks :/ ???
second1? meaning there's gonna be ac2 ? :| ooh gosh..


nOooes again i like lost.. >_> but that show doesnt come on here very often :(

[prodigy69]

what does it do ? ?:|


from what I've read it smoothed out a few glitches like the freezing issues.

and maybe I'm just imagining things but I feel the loading times are slightly faster.

[Thomp]

This sucks. I assassinated Robert last night, and saved the game. Now, every time I load the memory to move onto the next part (the bit where you leave the Animus again) it doesn't work. I'm trapped in Arsuf, with the error blocking me from getting out and nowhere to go. I've left the memory and re-started it in the hope that I'll leave the Animus automatically like it's supposed to, but it doesn't work.

Anyone got any ideas?

[prodigy69]

can you just restart the memory from an earlier point?

I've went and traded in my copy for Drakes Fortune, as I'd finished A.C 100%
and I don't see any replay value with it at all...
which is very disappointing in a next gen game

[Thomp]

can you just restart the memory from an earlier point?

How do you do that?

[prodigy69]

hmmm

I know you can repeat memories from the start when you've beaten the game..when you load the game it'll have the animus screen
it has the dna strands which are the 'memory' click on those.

and I think it says replay memory yes. no.?


as I don't have the game anymore I can't describe it very well to you :(

good luck

[Pilk Man]

Anyone else noticed that once you've completed the game, you're no longer punished for harming/killing civilians?

Time for a retard and beggar holocaust >;- )

[jonffm]

My friend bought me Assasins Creed today for my 21st.

:love: x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

[Drattigan]

I love the remarks that people make as you sprint by them; though, you'd think they'd be a little less nosey. :p

[Youlikeyams?]

Traded it in for Orange Box - once you've played it through once that's your lot. No incentive to collect the flags or anything.

[Thomp]

Stupid game. I've had to re-start from memory block 5 to try and get up to where I was currently, but now the game isn't saving my progress and when I load the game up, it always starts from memory block 6 :mad:

I'm gonna have to take an entire afternoon out and play through the entirity of the last 2/3 memory blocks, in the hope that I can complete the game without it fucking up.

[CRISPY]

Got it for Christmas. And doing really bad. Ive done 3 assassainations or 4 not entirely sure and now there are no objectives or anything entirely stuck anyone had this before?

[jonffm]

Tad disappointed to be honest. It's all a little same-y....but I guess there isn't too much they could do about that.

Youtubed the ending because im lazy....looks kinda...odd.

[Twatybollocks]

I played this yesterday on the Xbox 360 at a mates house. I was pleasently suprised, it wasn't what I was expecting.

Kudos to the game for incorporating dying and loading in saved games into the actual plot itself!

Of coures, influenced by the Matrix but still very clever. I will deffo buy this when it comes out on the PC which I think is May...bah ages away.

[Lewiji]

Got it for Christmas. And doing really bad. Ive done 3 assassainations or 4 not entirely sure and now there are no objectives or anything entirely stuck anyone had this before?
Generally if there aren't any objectives on the map it means you need to scale all the view points in the area and sync - remembering to explore and shaded bits of the city map which could have "opened".

[Youlikeyams?]

Got it for Christmas. And doing really bad. Ive done 3 assassainations or 4 not entirely sure and now there are no objectives or anything entirely stuck anyone had this before?

Just look for the tall high points and climb them and synchronise. They wont always be pointed out.

[Norbington]

i seem to be doing something wrong.

How do I save?

[Mat^]

i seem to be doing something wrong.

How do I save?finish an assassination, save someone, find a flag or climb a new building.

[Lyricaus]

Yeah thats one thing I don't like about Assassins creed and similar games. No save feature, I look in the booklet and it also failed to explain. Leaves me feeling edgy at pressing quit since I don't know when it last saved and how much gameplay I'd lose.

[Norbington]

I am currently on Assassination number 4 and seem to be getting the hang of it.

However can anyone tell me how to get new throwing knives, as they are very useful for rooftop archers and I have run out.

[nub]

Find a thug(these people often have hoods or really obvious pouches) target them and pickpocket them. You can also kill them but then you only get 1 knife.

[Shalashaska]

Yeah thats one thing I don't like about Assassins creed and similar games. No save feature, I look in the booklet and it also failed to explain. Leaves me feeling edgy at pressing quit since I don't know when it last saved and how much gameplay I'd lose.

As far as I can remember, you can save in the start menu. It also saves automatically after nearly everything, unless you turn it off.

[Norbington]

I am absolutely awful at this game. Just killed the 6th guy - the big guy at the execution in Jerusalem. I worked out that I could get close to him using the scholars and I waited till he was the closest but i couldn't do a quick hidden blade kill even though he was feet away from me. I had to kill about 30 guards :(

What am I doing wrong?

[Haroshi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q07tonhZre0

[Shalashaska]

^I love the way he stops, looks around, and then keeps doing it.