McClaren Sacked

[AngryPaul]

About fucking time if we're honest. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7100393.stm)

It was clear from the start that he wasn't the manager the FA wanted.

People say it wasn't his fault. The players didn't perform. They didn't perform under Sven and he only lost 1 or 2 qualifiers in 3 campaigns. McClaren lost 3 in 1. He was supposed to taken England forward, but we ended up going backwards.

He was full of cliches and wanted to look like he had the balls to make big decisions. But he never actually made. And when he did, they backfired.

Goodbye Steve. I wouldn't even welcome you back to Bristol City.

the FA will conduct a "root and branch" review of the England team set-up, to be led by chief executive Brian Barwick and which will begin with immediate effect. All he needs to do is look into a reflective surface and he'll see the problem. It's his fault we're in the fucking mess.

[basstard]

Finally. He was pretty much a national embarrassment for England.

Wonder who will replace him.

[AngryPaul]

Capello has already said he'd be interested.

Personally, I think Lippi would be a good choice. He was the World Cup ffs. We need one of those in our ranks!

[skoo]

Fuck you, Carson and Fuck you, McClaren. :mad:

[Chris]

Paul Jewells for England!

Bye Bye McClaren!

[Smartie]

Trying to look at this objectively, why is it the manager is always blamed.
I get the whole thing that he should be motivating the team and pushing them to perform etc, but this is the English team we're talking about here, with their reputation for consistently not winning anything.

Isn't it time we started working out why things never go alright on the night?
Clearly all the managers since 1966 can't all have been that shit?

To sack the manager is the easy option, but it solves nothing long term.

I appreciate some posters here might be a little enthusiastic and emotive about this topic, but I'm trying to genuinely understand why England win NOTHING at football if it's purely down to management every single time.

Can we not just accept other teams are simply better than us?

[skoo]

It's not always down to management. A lot of it stems back to schools.

But in this case it was pretty much down to management. Lets take our number 1 keeper who mis-kicked a ball due to a divot in the grass... and then drop him entirely... replacing him not with our number 2 goalie (who fucked things up by playing tomb raider), but with a 22 year old who has only played in a friendly before now and managed to let 2 goals in before even touching the ball with his hands.

Next up, we'll put some crap defenders on.... go with 1 man up front and then pack the midfield with five players who aren't used to playing 5 in midfield. Then we'll make sure lampard and gerrard (who are practically clones) are BOTH playing, and neglect to pass the ball down the right flank where our only two decent (wide) players are/were.

[Smokey]

It's not about not winning, it's about the way we don't win.

Robson and Erikson were both successful managers although they never won a trophy. But under them we looked like we had a chance.

McClaren needed to go because in 2 years we had taken a huge step backwards. Players can be dropped (or at least should be) but the manager is there until the end. Ultimately McClaren's team played with no passion and no commitment and that's down to him being unable to motivate players who even when they under-perform will walk straight back into the team next time round.

[Splush]

He seemed like such a half-arsed selection from the very start, what a waste of time. It was like they sat down and said "ok, how can we act like we're changing things but actually change as little as possible?"

Perhaps they'll give Martin O'Neill the job like they should have in the first place, and let him choose his own staff.

[jonffm]

It isn't always about the management, but it's how the world works. The buck stops with the manager. He always takes ultimate responcibility.


Now. For the love of god....it's 18 months late, and I said this after Sven got sacked too...

FUCKING HIRE O'NEILL.

Lippi would be okay too.

Even if we have to wait untill the end of the season. Not like we have anything to prepare for. O'Neill wouldn't stand for that performance last night, the lads wouldn't have DARED preform like that under him.

[Nuclear Spoon]

FUCKING HIRE O'NEILL.


This.

It's a disgrace he was never even offered the job.

[Bacon Machine]

Brain Clough for England...

Well, at least someone in exactly the same mould as him.

We need a guy who isn't afraid to drop big-name players and who will properly motivate the players.

[Roxit]

Brain Clough for England...

Well, at least someone in exactly the same mould as him.

We need a guy who isn't afraid to drop big-name players and who will properly motivate the players.

Who drops the right big-name players. Like Lampard, not Beckham

[MargateMan]

18 months too late, but, maybe we've got the time to find a man that's really up to managing the ego's of the England dressing room, and, let's pray some young players develop by World Cup qualifying, or we're in deep trouble...

[Thomp]

Hey guys, let's all send in our CVs! Whilst you're at it, if you play Football Manager, include all the trophie you've won!

Seriously though, about fucking time.

[jonffm]

Hey guys, let's all send in our CVs! Whilst you're at it, if you play Football Manager, include all the trophie you've won!

Seriously though, about fucking time.

Way behind. Made that joke to my mate weeks ago.

But hay, between us, we have twelve premiership titles and five champions leagues.

[AngryPaul]

Way behind. Made that joke to my mate weeks ago.

But hay, between us, we have twelve premiership titles and five champions leagues.Dr S and I also made it in the York thread after McEwan went walkabout. :eng101:

[Nuclear Spoon]

If it's anyone but Capello, we'll know that the FA really don't have a clue what they're doing.

[basstard]

If it's anyone but Capello, we'll know that the FA really don't have a clue what they're doing.

That's unfair, I think Martin O'Neill would make a great English National team coach.

[Nuclear Spoon]

So do I, but O'Neill's ruled himself out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7108992.stm

I wouldn't mind seeing Klinnsmann managing England though.

[AngryPaul]

I don't really understand why people think Shearer's in the running ffs.

[MargateMan]

Does Shearer even have the coaching qualifications needed?

I mean, I know he has no experience, but look what Klinsmann did with the Germans, and he had no prior expierence, speaking of Jurgen, I'm backing him for the England job, might not feel the pressure to back the big players as he's not English, I mean, who ever it is, needs to be non-British, simply so they don't buckle under the pressure to play certain 'big' players.

[AngryPaul]

Does Shearer even have the coaching qualifications needed?
I thought that qualifications were only needed for the leagues, not national teams. Do Klinnsman and van Basten have any?

[Thomp]

People are only suggesting Shearer because of van Basten and Klinnsman.

So Jose, O'Neill, Lippi, Curbishley AND Allardyce are all saying "No". Redknapp and Coppell say they're interested, but may not get it. Only Capello has stated a true desire to manage us.

Looks like Capello will be the next guy then.

[MargateMan]

I thought that qualifications were only needed for the leagues, not national teams. Do Klinnsman and van Basten have any?

Ah, you could be right there, still, Shearer doesn't strike me as the managerial sort, I mean, you could see players like Keene as a manager before he retired, I think Shearer might end up a big like Southgate... shit...

[Shave]

Definitely don't want shearer, don't care about his credentials, he has no personality. he would bore our team into submission

[Nuclear Spoon]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7116283.stm

:D

[[murray]]

If Steve Coppell gets the England job then I'll hang myself from the archway above Wembley.