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Archaeology hat
10-12-2007, 12:40 AM
On why it is futile to be an Illuminati /Shadow Council Conspiracy Theorist.

There are a number of Theories involving an illuminati or shadow-council who rule the world from the shadows and are striving for an ever greater degree of unified and totalitarian world government. Now, some of them present a fairly convincing argument. Some of them are obviously crackpots.
For most of these conspiracy theorists, the chosen medium of communicating their ideas is the internet. This is because it is easy for people to present themselves on the internet, it is easy for them to present their ideas and find seemingly large numbers of likeminded people.
It is important to note, I am not one of these people, not beyond a healthy curiosity and general interest in current affairs, even the extreme views on current affairs espoused by conspiracy theorists is interesting, as a social comment, whether it is true or untrue. Ultimately, however, to be a conspiracy theorist, or to be someone who espouses the views of a conspiracy theories. It is futile.
Whether or not they are right or wrong, protecting the rights and way of life we have today or simply spreading paranoid lies and half-truths, their presentations are futile. So few people believe the conspiracy theorists that their voices go completely unheard, by espousing the beliefs that they do, the automatically ostracise themselves from the accepted socio-political media, marking themselves as paranoid, a “crackpot” and thus not reaching an audience with sufficient weight to actually manage to mobilise the population against the object of their distaste.
If there is such a conspiracy it will not be the conspiracy theorists that stop it, or help to act against it. If there is any resistance beyond them it should, hopefully come from those who fight for democracy and justice on moral grounds and the feeling that they are fighting for what is right. If there is no resistance beyond them, they will be the ones rounded up and silenced when the take-over has happened.
Who’s to say that a conspiracy to take over the world as outlined in www.zeitgeistmovie.com is a bad thing? World unity sounds like a fairly desirable thing, and while absolute power corrupts absolutely. Corruption can include madness bringing down the corrupt. The only thing inevitable about any empire or hegemony on the world political stage is its fall. From Akkad to the British Empire, from the Roman Empire to the Maya every single one has experienced a decline from world leadership to a lesser or different form.

Splush
10-12-2007, 07:08 PM
I tend to agree, the 'marketplace of ideas' is so flooded that if somebody genuinely does uncover a terrible truth their voice will be drowned out by the background noise of attention-seekers, contrarians and lunatics.

Although I wouldn't agree that a single global hegemony is a desirable thing, I think the probability of the global dictatorship being benevolent is too small for it to be worth placing all your chips on. And if they inevitably fall then surely that just stands as evidence of their imperfection.

katt
10-12-2007, 08:58 PM
I think the most terrible things that have happened have not been conspiracies but things committed in broad daylight with impunity

(in other words if there is a huge, sinister plot it is usually pretty visible)

I watched some documentary on the moon landings (in the words of the astronauts themselves) and they spent a small bit of time addressing the conspiracy theorists. Things were said such as "well it woulda been a lot easier to film it in a studio" and "well if we faked it then why did we feel like we had to fake it nine times?"

it troubles me people want to think that man never got to the moon. i think it is amazing a bunch of hairless cousins of the chimps managed to accomplish that and it is something to be proud of

Sewer Side Cafe
10-12-2007, 09:19 PM
I know that conspiricy theorys are very popular, but the iluminati? Don't make me laugh... Ido believe that they exist, but that they rule all? not a chance.