Jeremy Kyle - Love Him Or Loath Him?

[Bald Rick]

Do you consider him the best talk-show host ever to grace our screens, or
is he a patronising, antagonistic egotist with a shouty voice?

[JebblehMooo]

I love him, BECAUSE he is a patronising, antagonistic shouty voiced bastard :D
Although I can see why people can hate him, he's not the best chat show host in the world really, because I've never seen him actually help people =/ Just shout at them and tell them to shut up.

[Bald Rick]

I remember he once called a fifty year old woman a 'good girl'.
How can you call a person older than you a 'girl'?! What a prick!

[JebblehMooo]

..I take it you DONT like him then.

[Bald Rick]

..I take it you DONT like him then.

Not as much as the guests.(See my post in 'What Annoys You' thread.)

[Darkscull]

I hate him, not because of the fact that he's a patronising, antagonistic shouty voices bastard (although that helps), but because of the fact that half of what i've seen him say to solve things would actually be bad in practice, and he is sustained solely by controversy and sensationalism sort of stuff.

essentially, he puts on a show to entertain people, not to help people.
however it's annoying because it pretends to be otherwise, and some people will take it seriously, and seriously mess their lives up (and they're lives are probably already messed up a bit if they're in a position to take him seriously).

half the people who appear on it are actors anyway (there was a case of a guy who had appeared on it several times 'married' to a few different people, or in other situations, and also had been a bouncer or something)

[BlueIncaPilot]

I have seen this show for less than a minute because I couldn't handle it. It is disgraceful the way this man talks to people. I know I shouldn't judge something based on about 60 seconds of viewing but it really did make me angry. Generally as a rule though I think the people who go on these kinds of shows deserve what they get, because the way to sort out your problems is to not get some random guy to help do it for you, watched by hundreds of thousands of people. I can't stand judgemental, presumptuous (which I can't even spell) people - it really gets my goat. At least Jerry Springer is a laugh, it's not all serious like over here.

I haven't seen enough of it to say whether I agree with the following statement, but my psychology teacher has watched it and she says it really is just a show put together where lower class people come on to be laughed at by those higher up, for entertainment value only. Sounds a bit like gladiators from ancient times to be honest, but with less death.

[Darkscull]

she says it really is just a show put together where lower class people come on to be laughed at by those higher up, for entertainment value only.

except for the fact that the viewing population consists almost entirely of the unemployed and students, which reflects kind of accurately the population of those who appear on it (or the stories that are covered anyway, if they're actors).

it's like these 'real life' gossip magazines, it's not people laughing at those less fortunate, or at those who are put on a pedestal (like celebrity magazines). the people who read it are the people who appear in it, and they either take it all seriously, or are laughing at themselves (possibly without realising it)

[JebblehMooo]

Its true its mainly all just unemployed and students who watch it, although, I have only seen it a few times, but, its one of those shows, I love to watch because it is so awful, and I dont laugh at the people that go on there, I laugh at the ordascity of J.K speaking to those poor people in the manner he does, it's just, unbelievably, in your face and un-needed, but I think if people are stupid enough to publisise themselves on that programme, they deserve to be told they are idiots.

[Svelter]

Debates and Serious Business has let itself go...

Personally, I don't 'like' The Jeremy Kyle Show, although I do feel annoyed if I wake up at 9 in the holidays and don't watch it. I'm going there with my English class sometime so I might say something, even if it would just be so I could say "I was on the JK Show"

[Darkscull]

you are going to the jeremy kyle show for an english class?

what, to be shown how not to do it?

I suppose english lessons are composed of analysing big brother as well nowadays.

[gembird]

I've never seen him actually help people =/ Just shout at them and tell them to shut up.

Looking at the guests though, maybe that is what they need. If they're real people as opposed to actors, what they deserve is a good telling off (if not a slap) to bring them back into the real world.

I do enjoy the programme for sheer entertainment value, and I'm hoping that eventually someone I went to school with will be on it so I can tell everyone that I was right all along. I'm not sure what about yet, but I'll find something :)

[Svelter]

you are going to the jeremy kyle show for an english class?

what, to be shown how not to do it?

I suppose english lessons are composed of analysing big brother as well nowadays.

It's not English literature!

English language encompasses all texts, programmes, sentences that use the English language. It doesn't have to be Shakespeare.

[Darkscull]

It's not English literature!

English language encompasses all texts, programmes, sentences that use the English language. It doesn't have to be Shakespeare.

I never said it had to be shakespeare, it's the bold part that applies to my objection.

from what i've seen of the jeremy kyle show, both parties (him/the audience, and the guests) mangle the english language considerably, it's just that jeremy kyle does it in a way which sounds more intellectual and 'clever', but it still wrong.

it's media studies covers contemporary things for their content and style. English language should cover the use of language, and the only way in which jeremy kyle would apply to that is as an example of how not to use it.

[lilparp]

Morals aside, I like him for his sheer arrogance and consequential fairly trashy entertainment value.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw3zxL-yahU

A prime example of his archetypical guest.

[bobfrey the great]

I find it funny to laugh at the people he talks to, however he is a total twat and i do not find myself watching it if something else is on. which now is all the time:D thank you virgin media comedy on demand.

[Soapie]

I love Jeremy Kyle ; O;

It's so much more of a proper help show than Trisha, Oprah, Maury etc. The only other one I'll watch is Dr. Phil, but that's because of those amazing chairs.

[Youlikeyams?]

The people go on the show perfectly aware of how they look - if anything, I think some of these people go on purely for the publicity they'd get for trying to punch out whatevs twat slept wif his burd.

As for Kyle himself, he seems to know how to stir up the people that go on the show for entertainment value - he's a showman, albeit one with his morals slightly askew. Does make for funny telly though, even if it's not meant to be.

[Pie hunter D]

I can't speak for the mans character, but he pisses me off...
Lets assume the people on the show have genuine problems and their not actors (which i'm very sceptical about) he's just such an ass to them! His informed opinion could be found in a fortune cookie ffs!
He turns it into a huge drama, it's just a damn circus for the seals in the audience to clap at. I don't see HOW the fuck that's going to help anybody.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions , so they say :rolleyes:

[Svelter]

I never said it had to be shakespeare, it's the bold part that applies to my objection.

from what i've seen of the jeremy kyle show, both parties (him/the audience, and the guests) mangle the english language considerably, it's just that jeremy kyle does it in a way which sounds more intellectual and 'clever', but it still wrong.

Yeah, it's still English though.

If I caught my penis in a mangle, it would still be a penis. And let's face it, we've all been there...

[Darkscull]

yes, but if you were learning anatomy, would you go to visit the mangled penis emporium?

[Svelter]

yes, but if you were learning anatomy, would you go to visit the mangled penis emporium?

Depends how far away it is.

[Wishbone]

As for Kyle himself, he seems to know how to stir up the people that go on the show for entertainment value - he's a showman, albeit one with his morals slightly askew. Does make for funny telly though, even if it's not meant to be.

Pretty much this. I watch it sometimes for the sheer entertainment value but the way he acts towards his guests is just horrible sometimes; turning the audience against one person. I remember seeing some Charlie Brooker thing about his special convicted paedophiles episode or summat and how it was one of the worst TV events of 2007; although I didn't catch the programme itself. From what I saw, Brooker got it spot on about how it was really just a big hate-fest and an excuse for him to shout them down nothing other than the fact they were paedophiles which sorta defeats the point...

[Svelter]

"Bad, bad paedophiles!"

I saw that episode on TV and it was nearly unbearable to watch. He had a man, who was abused as a child, and even though he's now 40, he's still an emotional ruin from the experience. It was just Jeremy shouting, the man crying and screaming and the pixelated paedophiles uttering behind a voice-deconstructing microphone. There was really no point to it, other than 'entertainment'.

[Pie hunter D]

"Bad, bad paedophiles!"

I saw that episode on TV and it was nearly unbearable to watch. He had a man, who was abused as a child, and even though he's now 40, he's still an emotional ruin from the experience. It was just Jeremy shouting, the man crying and screaming and the pixelated paedophiles uttering behind a voice-deconstructing microphone. There was really no point to it, other than 'entertainment'.

Deffo this. It's just bullshit "entertainment" to feed a sadistic audience. And lets face it, if this issue is real...thats a pretty fucked up way of addressing it.

[Smokey]

No real debate here. I'd suggest moving the topic to media, or even better starting a new topic there free from any evidence of Rick's existance.