Muhammad al-Durrah

[Gonk]

I was doing an image search on google and I uncovered this wikipedia article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Durrah) on Muhammad al-Durrah, a 12 year old palestinian boy who was caught in a clash between Palestinian and Israeli Troops. It really scared me because this kid was my age.

[Darkscull]

so, you were searching for images of muhammed then?
just don't put one on a Tshirt.


I doubt anyone will disagree that it was a horrific tragedy, or argue against the fact that there are been countless other tragedies before and since in the particular conflict.

although any thread about such things is serious business, I don't see how there's anything to actually discuss unless someone starts it off.

I haven't been in a thread about the israel-palestine issue since I left the guardian talkboards to stop myself going insane. I can't remember where the last one on here ended up, but it was specifically about the lebanon thing anyway.

lets see what happens, I suppose.




PS. [edit: this bit is just giving some information in general, if you don't want/need it, just ignore it. it doesn't contribute anything to discussion or anything]
I've just looked at the wiki article on the israeli-palestinian conflict (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli-Palestinian), and it has managed to remain surprisingly objective and is referenced to the highest quality (the introduction that is. I haven't looked at the rest in detail in a while, so I don't know whether it's the same throughout)

edit: the history section of that article seems ok.
there are a few things listed as facts that are actually contented issues.
(for example in 2006 when an explosion killed some civilians on a gaza beach, preliminary investigations suggested it was an israeli shell, despite there being no military actions in that area.
then israel secured the area and did it's own investigations, and I can't remember if it ever released it's final conclusions, the preliminary conclusions being that it was nothing to do with them.
the version given in the article is that it was an israeli gunboat firing at militants. the reference is for a CNN article that seems to say things that I don't remember ever being said at the time. It is possible this is a different incident to the one i'm thinking of, but the numbers seem to be the same)

so take things with a pinch of salt.

edit again:
with the remainder of the article (major issues between the two sides), I would suggest a tonne of salt. It just about suffices to present either sides arguments, but anything talking about actions of either side don't trust unless you trust the source. if it has no given source, then don't trust it, I've seen several things which look like bollocks to me.

I've just realised this post has become really bloody long.