Poker question

[allfalldown]

Sorry if this is the wrong place, but I'm pretty sure there used to be poker threads in this part of the forum.

What I want to know is: when a player goes all in and wins, how is the pot split? I don't understand how you work out how much each player gets, and I haven't been able to find anywhere that explains it well enough. Just assume I'm a complete noob and explain it to me that way.

Thanks in advance :)

[Shave]

if the player goes all in and is called by one person who has less chips than the player, the player takes backs any extra chips so that each player has put the same amount in the pot. if the player wins, then the player gets all the chips in the pot and the opponent is out

if the player goes all in and is called by one person who has more or the same amount of chips than the player, and the player wins, then the player gets all his chips in the pot but the opponent is not out

if the player is called by one or more players and wins, then he will win his chips back and the same amount of chips from each player, plus whatever was already in the pot before the all in. If the all in was before all the cards are dealt (assuming you're playing texas hold 'em here) then the players who called and have more chips will play on as normal, creating a side pot. the side pot cannot be won by the all-in player, and if the all-in player wins the hand then the side pot goes to the player with the next best hand (assuming they weren't all in as well)

not greatly explained but i hope it helps

[jonffm]

Look at an all-in as a bet of that amount. All-in is just a term that saves the time in saying "I raise/bet 10,000".

So basically.. If player A has 1000 chips, player B has 700 chips.....player A announces that he is 'all-in', effectivly betting 1000....player B also goes all-in, with his 700 chips...

If player A wins, he takes all of B's chips and goes up to 1700....if player B wins, he double's his chip stack to 1400, and player A is returned 300.

[allfalldown]

not greatly explained but i hope it helpsI am slightly less confused now, yes :p No wonder there's people whose job it is to just deal, I doubt anyone has the brain power to think about playing the game and keep track of what everyone has bet in the event of an all-in.

[Mat^]

Poker question?

I hardly know the girl!

[allfalldown]

if the player goes all in and is called by one person who has less chips than the player, the player takes backs any extra chips so that each player has put the same amount in the pot. if the player wins, then the player gets all the chips in the pot and the opponent is out

if the player goes all in and is called by one person who has more or the same amount of chips than the player, and the player wins, then the player gets all his chips in the pot but the opponent is not outHang on, I think I just got it. I get confused again if I think about it too much though :p In simplest terms (that I can think of), in the event of an all-in as in the examples above, whoever put the most in the pot will at least get back the difference between what he put in and what the other player put in, whether he wins the hand or not.

So in jon's example where Player A goes bets 1000 and Player B goes all-in with 700, and then Player B wins, Player A gets back the 300 difference and Player B takes the rest of the pot, yeah?

I think I understand Shave's third example as well, but I still wouldn't like to do the maths while actually playing the game :p

[Smokey]

Exactly. You can't win more than you bet.

[Shave]

:p using an example for the third point

player A: 700 chips
player B: 1000 chips
player C: 1000 chips

let's say there's already 100 in the pot, and the flop is then dealt. Player A goes all-in, effictively raising by 700. B and C call, leaving them with 300 each and making a side-pot of 2200. The next card is dealt and B raises by 100, C calls (A can do nothing), leaving a new pot of 200. The final card is dealt and B raises again by 100, C calls, making the new pot now 400.

Situation 1: A wins

if A wins, then A will receive the side pot, i.e. 2200. Then let's say B has a better hand then C, B will then win the remaining 400 chips

Situation 2: B wins

if B wins, then B will receive the side pot of 2200 and also the 400 chips in the other pot. A is now out, B has 2700 chips, and C is left with only 100 chips

hope that's confused you some more :D

[allfalldown]

Yeah, I get it now (I think). You'd just have to remember how much was in the side-pot :p

Let's say that after the flop and A goes all in, B raises to 800 and C calls that. Does that create a pot of 2200 with a new pot of 200?

[Garry3]

Yeah, I get it now (I think). You'd just have to remember how much was in the side-pot :p

Let's say that after the flop and A goes all in, B raises to 800 and C calls that. Does that create a pot of 2200 with a new pot of 200?

In theory you wouldn't be able to raise from 700 to 800, but yes you are right.

[allfalldown]

Oh yeah, you'd have to raise 600 wouldn't you (if there was 100 in the pot already and A went all in with 700). I'm glad I was right other than that though :)

[ashburnham]

Stick to "Snap" - it's easier... although saying that what happens if you both get snap at exactly the same time?!

[Smokey]

That's why you need to slap your hand on the cards.

[allfalldown]

That's why my seven-year-old sister cheats and looks at the card before she lays it down.