Pirates and Ninjas - Wherewolf? Game 6

[happy-go-lucky]

Pirates and Ninjas – Wherewolf? Game 6

1. Introduction

The Crew of The Black Pearl gathered in front of their Captain. It was the second day of their voyage to the edge of the earth, but their voyage was already haunted by bad omens. The day before they had set sail, almost half the crew had been taken ill, and now there were many new faces among them. Last night, the first night away from land, Master Bates, the First Mate, had gone missing. Some claimed to have heard a splash just after midnight, although others dismissed this as a load of old sea biscuits.

“Arrrrr me hearties,” exclaimed the captain. “I have bad news for ye all. Master Bates was murdered!”
A salty storm of curses and mutterings rose from the few original crew members. Master Bates had been popular among the crew, as he was a fair First Mate, if a little crusty around the edges.
“Pkaw, Pkaw, pieces of eight. Pieces of eight,” interrupted the parrot. All eyes (except one of Salty Stu’s, as that one was kept pickled in a jar of rum in his piratey pocket) swivelled back to the captain. “Murdered…” He paused for dramatic effect, showing extreme callousness, even for a pirate, as he and Master Bates had celebrated their civil partnership (pirate edition) only last week. They had seemed so happy too, or so all the crew had thought, judging from the noi-

Anyway

“Murdered… by NINJAS” He pulled forward a Gypsy girl.
“I saw them!” She exclaimed. “Black as the night, silent as an ant’s sneeze, fast as a bolt of lightning-“
“SO.” Cried the Captain. “The only sensible way to resolve this is to vote for someone we think is a ninja to walk the plank every night!”

And with that, a hearty cheer rose from the crew below him.

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2. Preparations

The players will be split into two separate teams: ninjas and pirates. They will then be assigned different roles by the Narrator through a Private Message (PM). You will need to check your PMs regularly during the game. And remember, even if your role and agenda is different to someone else doesn't mean you aren't necessarily working towards the same goal!

NOTE
Each 'day' refers to a 48-hour time slot, to allow sufficient time for all players to debate on their next target for plank walking. Thus, any mention from this point onwards of 'days' should be taken to mean a 48-hour period. In other words, players with special roles may only PM the narrator with names once per 48-hour in-game day, not every literal morning! Any extra PMs of this kind will be treated as the player changing their mind and their original PM will be discarded!

Private Messaging (PM) may only be between player and Narrator, not between player and player. Anyone caught using PMs, emails or any other form of communication other than the main game thread to contact other players in secret in an In Character (IC) or Out of Character (OOC) capacity to aid each other through the game will be ejected from the game. However, there is a Dead thread where players may discuss the game (without spoilers or hints though!).

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3. Roles

Narrator
The Narrator plays a purely administrative role; narrating the game, counting votes and moving the game along. The narrator will also prod other players if they are inactive. Any player who is inactive after 48 hours will be ejected from the game and may have their role filled by another player. The Narrator will move the story along at the end of each 48-hour period, and will decide when the game ends.

Pirate

Crew Member
As far as the Crew Member is concerned, everyone is a suspect. The Crew Member’s role is to work out who is a ninja and to convince others that you are right, in order to execute them at the end of the day and save the town. Your only abilities are those you already possess; deduction, guile and persuasion. Each day, the Crew Members must indicate who they are voting to be killed in bold text. Repeatedly breaking this rule may result in your votes not being counted at the discretion of the Narrator!

Buccaneer
Once during the game the Buccaneer may PM the narrator to indicate who they wish to kill that night, should they believe that person to be a Ninja. They may do this during any round of the game, and once they have killed they may not do so again. The Buccaneer is loose cannon on the side of good, but in all other regards is identical to the Crew Members. Anyone enquiring about the Buccaneer role will simply be told the Buccaneer is a Crew Member. The Buccaneer can be prevented from killing someone by the Ship’s Doctor and in that case his killing will still be used up.

Cabin Boy
The Cabin Boy may PM the Narrator with a name once per day in order to check whether or not that player is in their hammock, something they ascertain while opportunistically looting the sea chests of the ships crew. If that player is performing their role as Buccaneer, Ninja, Ship’s Doctor or Gypsy during the night then they will be out of their house, and the Thief will be informed via PM at the start of the next day.

The Cabin Boy is in all other regards identical to the Crew Members. Anyone enquiring about the Cabin Boy’s role will simply be told the Cabin Boy is a Crew Member.

Special Pirate
All Special Pirate roles (including Gypsies) are aware of who the other Special Pirates are, but must not communicate with each other except in the main game thread.

Ships Doctor
During the day, the Ship’s Doctor may PM the Narrator with the name of one person to protect from the Ninjas over the course of the night. Should the Ninjas choose that person, they will be blocked from snatching them; the First Mate will also be blocked from killing. The Ship’s Doctor can not protect people from being executed. The Ship’s Doctor may choose to protect the same player any number of times, however they may not protect themselves.

Gypsies
During the day, the Gypsy may PM the Narrator with the name of one player, and will be told if they are a Ninjas. They will not be given the exact role of other Crew Members, ie. the Buccaneer or Cabin Boy. The Gypsy must be wary of their ability; any apparent knowledge on their part could easily get them targeted by the Ninjas, or mistaken as Ninja activity by the Crew Members! Remember that you, too, are desperate to survive, so try to keep your role hidden from the Ninjas!

Ninja

Ninja
All Ninja roles are aware of who the other Ninja are, but must not communicate with each other except in the main game thread.

Each day, the Ninjas may PM the Narrator with the person they wish to be killed during the night. Unlike the general public vote between all players during the day, for the Ninjas to snatch someone there must be a majority of votes from all Ninjas, not just from those who voted. Ninjas will be told who their fellow accomplices are in the initial PM sent to them at the start of the game. Ninjas must not communicate secretly with other Ninjas, through PM or any other method; they may only talk to each other through the main game thread. The next day, the Ninjas will be PMed to show who each of them voted for.

Master Ninja
The Master Ninja is identical to his fellow Ninjas but for one difference; any Gypsy attempting to ascertain their identity will not be able to recognise them as a Ninja, and will be told by the Narrator that they are an ordinary Crew Member. Master Ninja is identical to the Ninja in all other respects and may vote with his fellow Ninjas to decide who should be snatched that night. The Ninjas will be informed as to who their Master is in the PM sent to them at the start of the game.

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4. Gameplay

The game is split into Days, each lasting for a 48-hour period to allow the players to debate and vote for the next execution. At the end of each Day the Narrator will move the story along by detailing events that take place during the Night. This includes who gets forced to walk the plank, who is killed by the Ninjas and who is saved from death by the Ships Doctor. The Narrator will also PM all applicable players with details relating to their role, such as who each Ninja voted for (Ninja) and whether their chosen player was in their hammock or not (Cabin Boy). After the Narrator has detailed the events of the Night, it will be the next Day, and another 48-hour period begins.

Each day ends at 10:30 GMT every 48 hours. Night lasts until the Narrator has narrated the events of the night in the main game thread.

Day
All players discuss who they believe to be a Ninja and thus who to make walk the plank, and put their votes in bold. Unlike with the Ninjas' private vote, the general player vote does not need an overall majority, only a majority vote from the players who have voted.

Players may also choose to abstain, if they are unsure of who to vote for or wish to make a point. Players have three abstentions in the whole game, and each abstention counts towards the total number of votes, meaning that a player can help swing the vote without accusing anyone.

The unlucky player who is chosen to walk the plank will be killed during the Night.

Special Roles
Anyone other than a Crew Member may PM the Narrator during the day with the name of another player, and see the results take place during the night. This may be revealed publicly, privately or both, depending on the special role.

[Ronbert]

O hai

[happy-go-lucky]

thanks.


5. The Dead

There is a separate thread where eliminated players, or those not playing, can commentate on the game. If you are eliminated please only post in this thread (this game has Ninjas in it, but not ghosts!) Discuss with other players what is happening, but try not to reveal any extra knowledge you may have about the game, so as not to spoil it for the remaining players.

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6. Victory

If the Ninjas can kill off enough innocent people so that there are more Ninjas than Pirates, then their sneaky plot will come to fruition in an explosive climax. If the Pirates can execute the Ninjas before this happens, then The Black Pearl will be saved!

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7. Players

Here is a list of players so far. If you want to be added to the list, PM me. If the game's already started then the role of anyone removed for inactivity will be offered up on a first come first served basis.

Malcolio
Urlosenged
Syl
doctor_fruitbat
swarfegahead
Roxit
Vercci
tehmoogles
argh
Shalashaska
Turkey Sandwich
The Mna
Eschaton
nub
Ronbert

[Ronbert]

Yarr Harr I be a pirate
Yarr Harr, a pirate be me.
Yarr Harr, I have one leg
Yarr Harr, t'other's a peg.

[malcolio]

Nice. :D Seems strange that nobody would know who the Ship's Captain is, but these games haven't been the most realistic stories ever told. :D Looking forward to when it starts. :)

[Eschaton]

Neat, when do we find out our roles?

[happy-go-lucky]

Nice. :D Seems strange that nobody would know who the Ship's Captain is, but these games haven't been the most realistic stories ever told. :D Looking forward to when it starts. :)

Ssssh :p

They. erm. don't know he's going to kill someone. yeah.

You find out the roles on saturday at midnight
game starts sunday at whatever time i said days end.

fuck that you find out the roles at 10 pm tomorrow, game starts at 10 30

[Shalashaska]

You should just rename the Ship's captain to something else. Like Buccaneer, or something more cliche than that.

I'm also wondering where everyones getting those awesome drawn sigs.

[happy-go-lucky]

Ooh Buccaneer. I like :D

I couldn't think of anything good to call him. Thanks!

[Vercci]

It could use a bit of re-editing, some names are wrong :D

[happy-go-lucky]

Better?

[Turkey Sandwich]

Excellent...
(Should be said in the style of Mr. Burns)

Loving the pirates vs. ninjas motif; I wonder what I'll be. I take it that roles are assigned randomly again?

[Vercci]

Better?


The Master Ninja is identical to his fellow Ninjas but for one difference; any Master Ninja attempting to ascertain their identity will not be able to recognise them as a Ninja, and will be told by the Narrator that they are an ordinary Crew Member. Master Ninja is identical to the Ninja in all other respects and may vote with his fellow Ninjas to decide who should be snatched that night. The Ninjas will be informed as to who their Master is in the PM sent to them at the start of the game.

gypsy :D


It's like him looking into a mirror, and finding out he looks like a normal ninja :D

[tehmoogles]

Oh hi guys.

[happy-go-lucky]

gypsy :D


It's like him looking into a mirror, and finding out he looks like a normal ninja :D

Well er maybe he does. changed it now:p

UPDATE: PM's sent, I will be posting a list of who knows what about who in a minute or two, to avoid confusion. Meanwhile, GOGOGO


UPDATE again: This may just make you all more confused but oh well :D

The Ship’s Captain sat in his cabin thinking. Obviously the ninjas all knew who they were, but what of the rest of his crew? “Yarr,” he sighed, “tis a terrible thing.”
He knew the Ship’s Doctor had access to all the crew’s medical records, so would know who the Cabin Boy, Buccaneer and Gypsies were, but of course the Ninjas would have SNEAKY FAKE ONES. The Cabin Boy was a bit simple, so wouldn’t really know what was going on, and wouldn’t even remember who the doctor was, (despite being treated by him many times in the past) never mind knowing who the Buccaneer and gypsies were. The Buccaneer was a shrewd old sea dog, and knew who the Cabin Boy and Ship’s Doctor were, but had no time for the gypsies, who he considered foolish, so had never bothered learning who they were. The gypsies came from a close knit community, so knew each other well, and were fond of children, so had taken the time to get to know the cabin boy. The rest of his crew knew nothing, except that there were ninja’s on the loose.
“Pkaw, pkaw,” squawked the parrot, “bottle of rum, bottle of rum.” Never one to ignore good advice, the captain took out a bottle of rum from his rum storage device (i.e. a crate) and downed it, before collapsing in a heap on his bunk.

[malcolio]

I suppose you can't let us know how many ninjas etc we should be expecting? :)

Otherwise, abstain!

[happy-go-lucky]

There are three sneaky-as-fuck ninjas and an even sneakier Ninja Masterrr.

[Shalashaska]

I'm going to post and not waste my abstain.

[Turkey Sandwich]

Since the tactic worked so well last time, I'm going to abstain and say nothing more, except to suggest that everyone else does that too.

[Urlosenged]

Abstain for me too.

[Eschaton]

Abstain always seems to work well.

[tehmoogles]

Abstain is the order of the day, I believe.

[Roxit]

I Abstain also. Although one-eyed Pete is giving me the eye.

[Shalashaska]

Abstain, then.

[Syl]

I don't want to waste my abstain in the first round, so I'm pointing my finger to Urlosenged, because his location is hell, and that's where the bad guys belong.

[Vercci]

I'm tempted to vote syl, but I'l rather not vote at all.

[friendly spoon]

I shall abstain for today.

[Ronbert]

Urlosenged.

[Urlosenged]

So yeah, ship's doctor? You around? I might need a bit of looking after since it appears certain sneaky type people are signalling that I should be taken. So yeah.

[swarfegahead]

I shall abstain!

[Roxit]

This is weird, the abstain game worked so well last time and yet two people are not playing :mad: Though I can't imagine any pirate would ever abstain.

[Vercci]

they'd arrbsteiin yer filthy bilge rats

[argh]

I shall abstain as well.

[happy-go-lucky]

The ship's crew went to their hammocks, feeling uneasy. Although a couple of them had called to push Urlosenged off the boat, the majority had decided the safest option was to wait, at least for tonight.
Each tossed and turned in their bunks, although that might have had more to do with the sea than with worry, as pirates are notoriously brave, fearless and stinky.
Worried for Urlosenged, the doctor came to sit by his bed, but he survived the night unaided.

Summary
Nobody was lynched, the doctor protected urlosenged.
The ninjas didn't kill anyone.

doctor_fruitbat, The_Mna, and Vercci need to reply in this day to avoid being kicked out of the game.

[The Mna]

The abstain game it is then... pity that it'll be terribly uneventful, tho I have a feeling syl will be ninja'd, having thrown the first stone and all. *winks to the doc*

[Urlosenged]

Yeah, looks like another abstain (see below, changed my mind) is the order of the day. I'm still suspicious as to why 2 people mentioned me, but we'll have to see about that. And I'm not sure why they'd go after her, she was the one giving them a target after all.

[Roxit]

I'm going to wait and see what more people think before I vote.

[Vercci]

So we have to vote every day? I did reply in this game...

[tehmoogles]

Guessing we're still abstaining?

[Shalashaska]

The abstain game it is then... pity that it'll be terribly uneventful, tho I have a feeling syl will be ninja'd, having thrown the first stone and all. *winks to the doc*

I believe we have or first clue, gentlemen.

....shit, wrong dialect.

[malcolio]

Abstain!

[Urlosenged]

You know what? I've changed my mind. There's only 2 reasons Syl would name-drop like that - not wanting to waste an abstain, which is rubbish since we have 3, or because she's a ninja. So, based on that, I'm changing my vote to Syl.

[Syl]

But you don't die tonight, so you must be a ninja.

Urlosenged again, then.

[Urlosenged]

Neither did anyone else, which doesn't mean they didn't target me. It just means they didn't get the majority they needed which, since they need a majority of all ninjas, could be through people either being inactive or just not voting.

[Shalashaska]

I'm gonig for Syl.

The mna's namedrop can wait until later.

[Syl]

Neither did anyone else, which doesn't mean they didn't target me. It just means they didn't get the majority they needed which, since they need a majority of all ninjas, could be through people either being inactive or just not voting.

Well, you targeting me isn't exactly a reason for me not to vote on you, is it. Besides, it's about the best clue we've got so far.

On a related note: What's with all the abstaining anyway? If everyone abstains nothing happens, and if nothing happens we know nothing. With a random lynch, the chances of killing a ninja are higher than when you just abstain and wait for the ninjas to strike.

[Urlosenged]

Nah, the best clue was you name-dropping me. I didn't say you shouldn't vote for me because I voted for you though, I'd do the very same thing :p

And all the crew members abstaining means the ninjas can't name-drop someone without sticking out like a sore thumb.

[tehmoogles]

Syl - playing the abstain game means ninjas can't namedrop.

[doctor_fruitbat]

I'm here, I'm here... Abstaining for today. There's precious few of us as it is; even Fruitbat the Bloodthirsty wouldn't start shoving people off the plank just yet.

[Vercci]

2 reasons.

I didn't want to waste a abstain (even if we have 3, enough abstains yesterday)
I don't know if we have to vote every day, and if we do, I get kicked out today.

Syl

[malcolio]

You vote once every 48 hours, so happy-go-lucky must have missed yours. (Probably because you didn't put it in bold, hence why you're asked to.)

[Vercci]

I thought we could not vote and the only disadvantage with that is the number of votes per day is smaller than what it could be, unlike werewolves, who get counted even if they don't vote.

I explicitly said I didnt want to vote :D

[happy-go-lucky]

I thought we could not vote and the only disadvantage with that is the number of votes per day is smaller than what it could be, unlike werewolves, who get counted even if they don't vote.

I explicitly said I didnt want to vote :D

If you post but don't vote, then it's pretty much the same as not posting at all, you need to vote for someone or abstain. :D

[Ronbert]

Syl

I'll give my reason on the next day, but it's the same reason as yesterday.

[argh]

May as well Syl

[Eschaton]

I'm going to go ahead and vote for Syl also. However I may change my vote if any more evidence comes up.

[swarfegahead]

I thought we could not vote and the only disadvantage with that is the number of votes per day is smaller than what it could be, unlike werewolves, who get counted even if they don't vote.

I explicitly said I didnt want to vote :D

I may be affected by the alcohol, but this is what I though.

I mean, having a rule that disadvantages "werewolves" if some of them don't vote is kinda pointless if the 'civilian' characters are penalised for not voting too.....

I'm also kinda reluctant to vote for Syl, as the evidence so far is pretty flimsy. However, I'd rather vote for someone than see a continuous series of fruitless accusations like in the last game. The only reason that game was won was because of the special roles, and even then much luck was involved.

So yeah, Syl it is. No hard feelings.

(Apologies if this is rambling/ lacks grammar, alcohol has been consumed!)

[doctor_fruitbat]

I think we're making a big mistake here. Urlosenged didn't die, yet we're suddenly jumping on Syl for 'name dropping'? And enough people have jumped on board for the ninjas to have used it as an easy kill. If I'm wrong I'll happily eat my words, but I'm not really convinced...

[Urlosenged]

Well isn't that the point of the "abstain game"? That anybody who then does drop a name into things is doing so for only one reason?

[Roxit]

I said I would wait and see what everybody else thought. I'm surprised nobody has really mentioned Ronbert who also voted for Urlosenged.

Syl

I'll give my reason on the next day, but it's the same reason as yesterday.

:confused:

Why can't you tell us now? And you didn't vote Syl yesterday.

However I'm not going to vote Ronbert and hope for reasonings. I'm happy to waste my second abstain at this time. I'm not convinced that Syl is a ninja, didn't this happen in the last game with Vercci?

[tehmoogles]

Abstain As others have said, the evidence is really quite weak at the moment. We have another abstain after this, still.

[Vercci]

It did, I thought that [person] was [wolf] because [lack of posts in thread].

Though I don't like that new rule :(

either way, Abstain

[Syl]

Yay I'm being bandwagoned to death :(

[friendly spoon]

I don't think Syl's a ninja at the moment but we'll just have to wait for more evidence. abstain.

[happy-go-lucky]

There was much arguing amongst the pirates throughout the day, and at one point it seemed syl would be forced to walk the plank, however many of those on board still favoured caution, and cried for all to abstain. At the end of the day, it was decided that Syl would live another day, and she was free to go back to her bunk.
The night was not good for the ninjas either, with another failure on their part to kill one of their sworn enemies, the pirates. The doctor stayed with urlosenged another night, although it was apparently not needed.

Summary
Nobody was lynched, the ninjas didn't kill anyone.
The doctor protected Urlosenged again.
Turkey Sandwich and Roxit need to vote today.

[Roxit]

I said I would wait and see what everybody else thought. I'm surprised nobody has really mentioned Ronbert who also voted for Urlosenged.



:confused:

Why can't you tell us now? And you didn't vote Syl yesterday.

However I'm not going to vote Ronbert and hope for reasonings. I'm happy to waste my second abstain at this time. I'm not convinced that Syl is a ninja, didn't this happen in the last game with Vercci?

But I did vote :confused:

I'm not going to waste my last abstain today. I haven't decided who I'm going to vote for yet though.

[Syl]

I'm starting to doubt now.

If Urlosenged was a ninja, wouldn't I have been killed by now?
On the other hand, if he wasn't, wouldn't he have been killed by now?

Aah, this is confusing.

[Urlosenged]

Well, one idea is that they know the doctor is going to protect me, since I'm the only viable target, so they don't bother trying to kill me. It's certainly worked out that way, and I have little doubt that the doctor will protect me again.

You do raise an interesting point though. Only me and you have been mentioned by anyone. So why haven't you been targeted yet?

[Syl]

My problem is, I'm in danger either way.
If you are a ninja, I could get targeted any time soon.
If you're not, they might target you and everyone will blame me for your death.

[Vercci]

I'm a ninja, believe it.

[/naruto]

[Ronbert]

If Urlosenged was a ninja, wouldn't I have been killed by now?
Would be a bit obvious, though? If I were him I'd be biding my time.

[Urlosenged]

I wouldn't have a say in it; once she'd been mentioned, they would've voted for her and taken her straight away if they knew I was one of them. It's not like I could telepathically tell them "no guys wait, you've got to get her in a couple of days so it'll be less obvious."

So yes, if I was a ninja, she'd be dead by now.

[Ronbert]

They might be tactful ninjas.

[Turkey Sandwich]

I'll abstain again. Mainly because I'm a bit confused, so I think I'll wait for some more information.

This is hard without gypsy powers, I'm not used to it. :(

[malcolio]

There's no proof either which way really, either we have cunning ninjas or ones that just can't get their act together. So I'll be using another abstain. :)

[Urlosenged]

As much as I don't really want to vote now and see what happens during the day, I don't have much choice since I'll be stuck at work till half 9. I guess I'll just use my second abstain for now, even if I am fairly sure a certain someone is a ninja. But oh well.

[Syl]

I'll abstain for today, I haven't wasted any yet so I might as well.

[Ronbert]

Time for an abstain.

[Shalashaska]

Abstain, then.

[swarfegahead]

I'ma play it safe and abstain

[Roxit]

Fine I shall do the same again and abstain since I just woke up and have to go to work.

[doctor_fruitbat]

I'm still not sure if the abstain game works. Yeah, it stops the ninjas from name dropping, but - and here is the key thing - it also gives the pirates absolutely nothing to work with, and after two days you're pretty much resigned to accusing someone.

Abstain so I don't look like a ninja, but we'll be stuck firmly at square one when we're forced to vote...

[The Mna]

Looked like this game was about to fire up on syl's behalf. I really thought we'd finally have a lynching, but apparently that isn't the case. Sigh... 1 more Abstain for me.

We better get some leads, and fast. Where's the mutiny? The swashbuckling? The ninja's, man?!

[Eschaton]

I'm still not sure if the abstain game works. Yeah, it stops the ninjas from name dropping, but - and here is the key thing - it also gives the pirates absolutely nothing to work with, and after two days you're pretty much resigned to accusing someone.

However it gives the gypsies the chance to find out more identities which is a very good thing. So I'm going to abstain.

[Urlosenged]

Yep, if we're lucky the gypsies might know who 1 or even 2 of the ninjas are by now.

[argh]

abstain

[happy-go-lucky]

There was much more arguing amongst the crew that day, however in the end all who voted chose to abstain. Once more nobody was forced to walk the plank, and once more all retired nervously to their bunks. Having decided that Urlosenged would most likely be ok on his own that night, the doctor too decided to get some sleep.
The next morning the crew rose, feeling refreshed, only to find urlosenged missing! The whole ship was searched, but when his favourite eye-patch was found caught on a peg on the side of the ship, with his eye still attached (apparently he still had two eyes, or had previous to that night, anyway) there was no other thing to believe but that the ninjas had killed him.
Upon searching his sea chest, there were a few subtle hints but undeniable hints that Urlosenged had not been all that he seemed, such as three crystal balls, four and a half packs of tarot cards, and a list detailing who he was planning on investigating. It seemed he had questioned the spirits about Syl and doctor_fruitbat, however the answers were scrawled in a different language, and the crew couldn't read them. It seemed that he had been planning on investigating The Mna's identity that night.

Urlosenged was a gypsy, and killed by the ninjas.
The doctor saved nobody, (silly doctor) and nobody was lynched.

[Eschaton]

So I take it Urlosenged was just a normal Pirate then?

[Roxit]

sure i just posted but whatever...

unlucky that the day the doc doesn't protect you they come a get ya

I think that Urlosenged was probably ninjad because their name and been mentioned som many times, but I'm still weary of Ronbert, does anybody else agree with me?

Like me I think several people have used up their abstains, so I want a descussion on who to vote for before I make a choice.

[Eschaton]

Ronbert has been pretty suspicious but I think its just because he's stupid not because he's a ninja. Eh, who knows, we have 2 more days to decide on who to vote for.

[Syl]

To support this theory:

Syl

I'll give my reason on the next day, but it's the same reason as yesterday.
(while he didn't vote for me the day before)

But then again, that could indeed just be stupidity.

[Turkey Sandwich]

I assumed that he meant he was voting for who he was voting for for 'the same reason as yesterday', rather than that he was voting for you for the 'same reason as yesterday'. He could have just meant that his reasons were the same, even though the target was different.

Having said that, it's still suspect, since he didn't give any reasons for voting for Urlosenged in the first place - which makes his 'same reasons as yesterday' pretty cryptic. And he also said he'd explain his reasoning the next day, and I haven't seen any evidence of it.

Not to mention the fact that voting for Urlosenged seemed totally random. This was followed by the person in question trying to make out that Urlosenged could be a ninja, despite evidence to the contrary. And Urlosenged soon got ninjad...

[Vercci]

So, do we vote Ronbert or what?

[Roxit]

I want to hear what Ronbert has to say, but if he doesn't then he will get my vote.

[tehmoogles]

I'll wait for what Ronbert has to say before I vote for him, but he seems pretty suspicious.

[Ronbert]

I assumed that he meant he was voting for who he was voting for for 'the same reason as yesterday', rather than that he was voting for you for the 'same reason as yesterday'. He could have just meant that his reasons were the same, even though the target was different.
Exactly right.

In all honesty, a vote for someone else who has already been voted for is better than an abstain in case someone votes for me. Especially as they're rationed.

[argh]

Damn the doctor, every day but the one that was needed.

I'm voting Syl since she was the only one to mention Urlosenged yesterday when he was ninja sliced. Also, I'm pretty sure one of the people he asked about was a ninja, so 50/50 eh?

[Vercci]

At least we can agree on this Syl

[Syl]

Exactly right.

In all honesty, a vote for someone else who has already been voted for is better than an abstain in case someone votes for me. Especially as they're rationed.

A vote for someone who has already been voted on is not better than an abstain when this person is innocent. An abstain is a 'countervote', it counts as a vote. So if 4 people vote for a certain person and 5 people abstain, said person won't die.
I vote out of random if I don't want to waste an abstain.

But, because quoted explanation lacks reason, I'm voting for Ronbert.

[Roxit]

Damn the doctor, every day but the one that was needed.

I'm voting Syl since she was the only one to mention Urlosenged yesterday when he was ninja sliced. Also, I'm pretty sure one of the people he asked about was a ninja, so 50/50 eh?

To be fair Syl had mentioned Urlosenged every day and the ninjas didn't strike during the first two. But then perhaps it took a while for the ninjas to get their bootys in order.

Is this 50/50 you talk about between Syl and Ronbert? And vercci are you agreeing that one of the two is a Ninja and hence why you changed your vote. I'm thinking that Ronbert is probably the ninja but the only way to find out is kill one of them so I will join you with a vote for Syl.

Subject to change since I have nothing to do but overanalyse peoples posts.

[Syl]

I don't get it. You guys didn't vote for Ronbert just yet because you wanted to give him a chance to explain himself. He did and it was rubbish, yet you vote for me?
What is this madness?

[Vercci]

Well, I want to save my abstains, yet I don't want to look like I'm name dropping, unless I'm adamant that said person is a ninja. I also agree with argh's post so I voted Syl.

This is why I don't like having to vote :p

[Ronbert]

A vote for someone who has already been voted on is not better than an abstain when this person is innocent.
Easy for you to say, it's you who made the unfounded accusation, hmm?

Syl, no question.

[Vercci]

You both smell, if it were my choice I'd keelhaul both of ye to tha brig.

[Shalashaska]

Syl

[Turkey Sandwich]

Personally I think they're both suspect, so I say we vote for both of them in turn, especially if we're wrong with the first guess.

It doesn't looks like like there are enough votes yet for the ninjas to have jumped on a bandwagon, so I presumably they're not trying to influence the vote (which implies guilt).

So, though subject to change if it looks like bandwagoning is occurring, I'll vote for Syl. Don't worry, I'm not picking on just you, I'll be pursuing the other suspect too.

[tehmoogles]

I'm not entirely convinced of Syl's guilt. He dropped Urlosenged's name Day 1, and he was killed Night 3. That seems somewhat tenuous.

Ronbert I don't want to bandwagon, but I don't want to namedrop anyone else or else I'm gonna get bandwagonned :\

[malcolio]

Aren't we forgetting that Urlosenged was a gypsy, so in all likelihood he asked for Syl's real identity after she accused him on Day 1, hence why he voted for her on Day 2?

This line of reasoning is good enough for me: Syl

[Shalashaska]

^That's the kicker. I think this is good enough to have her our first lynching.

[Vercci]

Urlosenged was a gypsy?

[doctor_fruitbat]

I'm voting Ronbert. The suspicion around Syl seems a little convenient, especially given how long it took for the ninjas to capitalise on it.

[The Mna]

I'm with the doc on this one. After all, he was right last time.

Ronbert

[Eschaton]

I still think that Ronbert is innocent but I'm going to go with the gypsie and vote for Syl

[Ronbert]

It doesn't looks like like there are enough votes yet for the ninjas to have jumped on a bandwagon, so I presumably they're not trying to influence the vote (which implies guilt).
I can't argue with your point if I don't understand it, can you rephrase the last bit?

[Turkey Sandwich]

I can't argue with your point if I don't understand it, can you rephrase the last bit?

In previous games, when we've accused someone innocent, we've seen a rush of bandwagon voting for them (i.e. just voting for them because everyone else is, obviously) - because of course the ninjas want to help execute an innocent.
But when there's no such bandwagoning going on, it implies that the person accused is guilty, because the ninjas aren't all rallying behind the call for execution.

However, they could be being a bit more subtle this time around, but we're a bit early in the game for suspicion to be cast on anyone specific for bandwagoning, so I'm not sure why they would bother. Or they could just be lazy.

In any case, it's not exactly hard evidence, but it makes sense.

[friendly spoon]

I am fairly sure a certain someone is a ninja.

It seemed that he had been planning on investigating The Mna's identity that night.

Maybe he meant The Mna?
Oh well, i'm going for Ronbert today.

[happy-go-lucky]

Sorry for the late update everyone - I managed to break my internet :(

*clears throat*

After the tragic loss of one of the gypsies, the attention of the crew turned to the two who had been most keen to lynch him the day before - Syl, and Ronbert.
Both protested their innocence, but in the end the majority of the crew decided Syl seemed the more suspicious, cunning and downright ninja-esque than Ronbert, who appeared to many to merely be confused.
Being civilised, well mannered pirates, the crew who had claimed Ronbert to be guilty bowed to peer pressure, and the entire crew headed to Syl's hammock, where she was resting after spending much of the morning protesting her innocence.
With many cries of "yaar," "shiver me timbers," and "thar she be," Syl was bundled from her hammock and blindfolded, before being dragged up to the main deck and put on one end of the plank.
Pickled Pete prodded Syl with his sword, and just as she was about to step of the edge of the plank she jumped into the air, did several back flips and seemed almost to fly at poor Pete. Luckily he raised his sword just in time, and the ninja's head went flying, separated cleanly from her body.
The crew rejoiced that not only had they, at least in part, avenged Urlosenged's death, but also that their first kill had been a ninja.

Later that night, it seemed all were asleep, as the ninjas attacked nobody, which was lucky as the doctor once more dozed though the night in their own bed.

Syl was lynched - she was a ninja
The ninjas killed nobody, the doctor saved nobody.

edit: swafegahead is advised to vote today.

[Turkey Sandwich]

Aha! There we go then.

Of course it doesn't prove anyone else innocent necessarily. I suppose we'll see.

[Eschaton]

I know this may see suspicious but I'm going to vote for TehMoogles on a hunch. Trust me on this, I strongly believe he's a ninja,

[doctor_fruitbat]

Because?

[Eschaton]

I'd prefer not to reveal that right now. You will find out eventually. Just trust me on this, he be a ninja. And if I'm wrong You can vote me off next round and I won't even put up a fight.

[tehmoogles]

For one, my name has not got two capitals in it :P

For two, I don't actually understand what this 'hunch' is. Unless you're claiming to be a dreamer, or you've been communicating externally, there's no way that you could be that certain that I'm a ninja - which I'm not, though that hardly needs saying. I haven't name-dropped or done anything which is in any way suspicious, so I don't quite understand why you're so absolutely certain that I'm evil. I'm not going to revenge vote you, because I believe that you're a dreamer, and therefore should be protected. For now, I'll hold my vote.

[Shalashaska]

I think it does need saying, but no, I'm not going for Tehmoogles. I'm going to hear other arguments.

[Ronbert]

I think I've been proven right.

Although, I will admit to bandwagon-ing; and to not understanding the game at first.

[Eschaton]

For one, my name has not got two capitals in it :P

For two, I don't actually understand what this 'hunch' is. Unless you're claiming to be a dreamer, or you've been communicating externally

Yeah sorry about the name thing. I thought it didn't look right but didn't bother to figure out what it was.

Also, what exactly is a dreamer? I'd really rather not explain this early how I know he's a ninja. I would say you just have to trust me but I'm sure that wouldn't work. I guess we'll just have to see.

[Roxit]

Don't know who I am going to vote for as yet, might leave it late and then pick at random.

[tehmoogles]

Sorry, I've been playing too much of the type of Werewolf I usually play. A dreamer is someone who can 'dream' to see who baddies are. I'm not sure you are one, but the certainty of your hunches would make it seem so.

Also, anyone know who I can contact about hosting a game?

[malcolio]

If you're going after someone for no reason other than a mysterious unknown one you might as well admit you're a gypsy. After all, the ninjas will target you just in case.

Of course, you could be a ninja who wants to take someone out easily by vote and then complain in the next day that you thought the person you selected was a Ninja Master, hence your 'mistake'.

Either way there are a few people in this game who would not vote for Syl in the last couple of days and nearly stopped her being killed. One of whom is tehmoogles. I might regret this later but I guess we'll see...

[tehmoogles]

There are quite a lot of people who didn't vote for Syl. To be quite honest, I thought the evidence against him was tenuous - obviously I was wrong, but my reasons were valid. If someone had been able to produce something better on him, I would happily have voted. But the fact that Urlosenged wasn't killed until a couple of days after he was namedropped suggests that the ninjas were pretty disorganised - trying to get their act together. I think it might have not been meant as a namedrop, but the fact that he was a ninja means that everyone has already accepted it as such.

[malcolio]

I understand your point, but those that didn't vote for Syl are more likely to be ninjas than those that didn't, hence along with a possible gypsy painting you as a ninja I'm voting for you. Although I'd prefer it if he made it more obvious that he was a gypsy.

I don't know, I'm not so sure on my choice, so if anyone can persuade me to vote for someone else I'd be happy to.

Oh, and go to The Dead thread to ask to run a game. :) There's a bit of a queue so it'll be a while until you do. ;)

[argh]

I'm going to go with tehmoogles.

Ps. No bandwaggoning usually means a ninja.

[tehmoogles]

You know the 'rats fleeing the sinking ship' mentality? Ninjas can easily cover their arses by voting for their teammates if they know or are pretty sure they're going to die. A good ninja would do that. Either I'm a crap ninja and I don't listen to my own tactics, or I'm not a ninja. Which do you think is more likely?

[Shalashaska]

Tehmoogles then.

[Turkey Sandwich]

You know the 'rats fleeing the sinking ship' mentality? Ninjas can easily cover their arses by voting for their teammates if they know or are pretty sure they're going to die. A good ninja would do that. Either I'm a crap ninja and I don't listen to my own tactics, or I'm not a ninja. Which do you think is more likely?

Alternatively you could just have not voted for Syl so that you could 'prove' you weren't a ninja, just as you are trying to do now. I'm not saying that's necessarily the case, bui it makes your argument there pretty moot.

Also I'd like to point out for everyone's benefit that, although you're right that sometimes ninjas vote for their fellows to make themselves look innocent if they're already getting executed, it's far less likely in the cases of the first few people who voted. Ergo, the first few people who voted for Syl are very unlikely to be ninjas, tactical or otherwise.

Now, since we have someone accusing tehmoogles, and there has not yet been any apparent bandwagoning, it seems likely that tehmoogles is a ninja. As I (correctly) said about Syl, ninjas often bandwagon on voting for innocents, but not for each other. Plus, the accuser has said that we can kill him tomorrow if he's wrong, and I think we should hold him to that - what sensible person would make such an accusation at the risk of their own life if they were sure to be found out as a liar? Suicide missions won't work, because there are more pirates than ninjas, and 1 death on each side favours the pirates.

So tehmoogles.

[friendly spoon]

tehmoogles it is.

[Ronbert]

I'm going for tehmoogles, I would abstain but then I would be a ninja, or so has been foretold.

[happy-go-lucky]

Well, you guys sucked today, only just over half of you voted.

The debating had been subdued over the course of the day, with almost half the crew ignoring the problems they faced completely, but all of those who did vote were agreed.
The name tehmoogles was repeated many times, and the only voice of dissent was that of the accused himself.
As night drew near, the cries for tehmoogles to be made to walk the plank grew louder, and as the first hint of pink crept over the horizon, his hands were bound behind his back and he was forced to the tip of the plank. Briny Bill stepped forward, and used the prodding attachment on his foreshortened arm to, well, prod tehmoogles over the edge.
The crew walked to his hammock, and upon searching his sea chest discovered a black mask and a shiny shiny throwing stars.

That night the doctor chose to keep watch over Eschaton's hammock, however it seemed that there was no need, as the night passed uneventfully.

Summary:
tehmoogles walked the plank, he was a ninja.
the ninjas killed nobody, the doctor protected eschaton.

swarfegahead's role is now up for grabs, and doctor_fruitbat, Roxit The Mna and Vercci are advised to vote today.

[Shalashaska]

The ninjas suck this time around.

[Turkey Sandwich]

I guess that means that Eschaton is innocent. No ninja in their right mind would deliberately shop one of their own.

[Roxit]

Boobs, got called into work early and didn't have the chance to vote. Not that I really needed to.

Can anybody who makes a list of who voted for who (because I'm sure some of you do) see if there was anybody who defended both the ninjas. I will propbably have a read through myself when I'm not too lazy.

[Vercci]

Fuck this is going well.

Abstain until furter evidence.

[Ronbert]

Abstain, nothing to go on at all.

[malcolio]

After Syl and tehmoogles went after Ronbert it's clear he's a civilian. The only other three who also went after Ronbert when he was being accused was The Mna, nub and doctor_fruitbat. Out of those three (stay with me here) only nub voted for tehmoogle to be killed in the last day. doctor_fruitbat did post yesterday but only in asking for an explanation behind Eschaton's accusation of tehmoogles.

With this in mind The Mna and doctor_fruitbat are looking like the most guilty IMO, but I'll be voting for doctor_fruitbat based on the fact that in his posts so far this game he has either gone against the vote of a player who has turned out to be a ninja, or has tried to argue against the abstain game (which has worked very well for us):
I'm here, I'm here... Abstaining for today. There's precious few of us as it is; even Fruitbat the Bloodthirsty wouldn't start shoving people off the plank just yet.I think we're making a big mistake here. Urlosenged didn't die, yet we're suddenly jumping on Syl for 'name dropping'? And enough people have jumped on board for the ninjas to have used it as an easy kill. If I'm wrong I'll happily eat my words, but I'm not really convinced...I'm still not sure if the abstain game works. Yeah, it stops the ninjas from name dropping, but - and here is the key thing - it also gives the pirates absolutely nothing to work with, and after two days you're pretty much resigned to accusing someone.

Abstain so I don't look like a ninja, but we'll be stuck firmly at square one when we're forced to vote...I'm voting Ronbert. The suspicion around Syl seems a little convenient, especially given how long it took for the ninjas to capitalise on it.Because?

I'm expecting doctor_fruitbat to say that this is all coincidence, or argue that he was just unlucky, but it's the best evidence we have of another ninja (I'll be watching The Mna too). If Eschaton says otherwise than I'll change my mind (maybe, but doctor_fruitbat could be the Master Ninja after all).

[Shalashaska]

I think that third quote sums it up.

I'll go along, doctor_fruitbat

[argh]

May as well fruitiest of bats MD

[Eschaton]

I have no info on Doctor Fruitbat right now. I won't be asking his identity tonight if we are voting for him as that would be a waste of finding an identity.

I do know that Ronbert, Turkey Sandwich, and Vercii are innocent. I'll post tomorrows inquiry when I get the info.

Doctor Fruitbat for today.

[Turkey Sandwich]

I'm going to say doctor_fruitbat too.

Some very good points have been made, and although it's not hard evidence, we certainly have a likely candidate. I was actually thinking along the same lines already, as I too had noticed that doctor_fruitbat seemed decidedly unenthusiastic about executing both the ninjas we found out.
Basically, someone's now put my own suspicions up in writing and shown that I'm not alone in thinking having them.

And with the innocents named in the above post, the list of people unaccounted for is growing smaller. So far (going purely by the information which has been made public in the game and ignoring, for the moment, the fact that the master ninja could be anyone), these people's identities are still unknown:

Malcolio
doctor_fruitbat
swarfegahead
Roxit
argh
Shalashaska
The Mna
nub

[doctor_fruitbat]

I was 'decidely unenthusiastic' about voting for the person who turned out to be a ninja because the logic on offer was crazy. The fact you're now voting for me only proves that, though of course that isn't really admissible as evidence until I'm dead, which is a bit of a catch 22, for me at least. Yes, I voted for Ronbert. Funnily enough, a few more people had suspicions about him as well. Then it turns out he's a civilian, so the fact I stopped voting for him makes me a ninja? As opposed to, say, realising I was wrong or beginning to think that some players were genuinely on to something after a successful plank-walking?

I don't suppose there's a lot I can say, since by a certain train of logic it's easy to see me as being guilty, and sadly the logic on offer has been bang on the money. I can't really deny that, so I don't suppose there's a lot of hope for me. Don't place too much faith in your intuition, or blindly follow the people making it; you'll see what I mean if I die.

[Vercci]

Abstain so I don't look like a ninja

Well that worked ;)

[Roxit]

Cheers malcolio I knew you would have made the list and I agree and vote for doctor_fruitbat

[doctor_fruitbat]

I have no idea who any of the ninjas are, so my final advice is to not get so carried away with your impeccable logic in the future.

[happy-go-lucky]

(pretend I am posting this a few hours ago :p)

After the tehmoogle's death the night before, many eyes turned to doctor_fruitbat. Throughout the day, many arguments were piled against his name, and despite his pleas of innocence, by the end of the day the votes against his name were many, despite two more conservative pirates (who were shouted down) advocating not killing anyone.
As was becoming routine now, the unlucky fruitbat was tied up, and helped up onto the plank.
Eyepatch Stu (whose name was a mystery to many, as he had perfect 20 20 vision,) was chosen to do the honours, and he prodded fruitbat with his sword, forcing the poor man off the edge. He fell with a plop, and when the crew returned to his hammock to search his sea chest, despite much searching, no evidence of his being a ninja could be found, and it dawned on the crew that they had in fact, just killed one of their own people.
The strain proved too much for swarfegahead, who that night jumped ship, and when the crew woke up the next morning, it seemed obvious after a brief inspection of his belongings that he too had been an innocent member of the crew, although he did have some rum hidden in his chest, which they shared between them.
The crew were relieved to find that at least the ninjas had not claimed any lives, although it seemed that soon the crew would have done their job for them, so it was not any great consolation.

Summary
doctor_fruitbat was lynched, he was a crew member, swarfegahead was removed for inactivity, he was also a crew member.
The doctor protected eschaton, the ninjas attacked nobody.
The Mna's role is up for grabs, nub is advised to vote today.

[Eschaton]

Yarr, Nub seems innocent. However I still think he's suspicious so perhaps a master ninja?

[malcolio]

OK, fine, logic doesn't always work in this game. :p

With that in mind, nub now does seem pretty guilty, and I'm also thinking Roxit might be too, considering he was the one who wanted people to target those who hadn't voted for tehmoogles and Syl (plus he also name-dropped me pretty obviously too...).

I'm going to let someone else decide who to go for, as I screwed up the last vote. I was hoping to go 3 for 3, but oh well...

[Roxit]

I don't understand why swarfegahead was removed but The mna's role is up for grabs. Ninja?

[happy-go-lucky]

*voice of god*
Can I just point out that you have about 3 hours left to vote?

nobody has voted yet
And swarfegahead's role was available yesterday, nobody took it, so now he's gone. If nobody takes The Mna's role then it will be gone tonight.

[Roxit]

Well I guess I will go with nub because of others suspecions.

[friendly spoon]

I voted for Ronbert because he was suspicious at the time. Well, I guess I have to vote and I can't find anyone too suspicious so I abstain.

[malcolio]

What's happened with people playing? :confused:

And I'm not sure who to vote for, so I'll vote for malcolio.

Also h-g-l, any chance of letting us know what roles the dropped players had?

[happy-go-lucky]

I did tell you, if you read it. It even says at the bottom :p

It seemed that all the crew were asleep that day, as only three met to discuss what to do. Even then, they could not come to a consensus, and so it was decided nobody would walk the plank.
After the crew had retired to their hammocks, strange noises were heard from The Mna's direction. The crew went running, hoping to catch a ninja in action. What they saw when they got there was The Mna thrashing around as if he were possessed.
He suddenly sat bolt upright, and the crew could see that it was not in fact The Mna, but the face of another pirate, unknown to them.
"I am woodchip50," he intoned in a ghostly voice, "this is now my bodyyyyyyy."
No other strange happenings happened to happen that night, although the doctor sat up with erasmus all that night, just in case.

Summary:
Nobody was lynched or killed by ninjas.
The Mna is now Woodchip50
the doctor protected erasmus
argh, Shalashaska, Turkey Sandwich, Eschaton, Ronbert and Vercci are advised to vote today.

[malcolio]

Hmm, this is tricky with not many people playing. The ninjas could be playing and just not agreeing, or could all be not bothing at all!

Oh well, gives the gypsy more time to find the remaining normal ninja. Just need to worry about who the Master Ninja is...

[Shalashaska]

I'm here. I'm just waiting for someone to make a breakthrough or something.

Abstain

[argh]

Shit sorry, I thought the day ended tomorrow for some reason.

I'll vote Ronbert for no reason other than if I forget about what day it is again, this will keep me in the game, and if I have better reasoning later, I can change it.

[Roxit]

It feels a little harsh but I'm thinking woodchip50 could be a ninja because The mna didn't contribute much and perhaps that is one of the reasons why the ninjas haven't done much.

[Vercci]

Sadly, that's the best evidence I know of :(

woodchip50

PLEASE bring up some different evidence somebody else :(

[woodchip50]

woah, i just get in and people want me out already...

hmm, well i shall go through everything that has already happened and try to find some evidence.

but in the mean time, simply to try and prevent some unwanted plank-walking on my part; Ronbert

oh and hi.

mmmm kk

have just gone over everything....

first thing i should say is a defence to not killeth me :D
- i am taking over from mna who if you compare to previous games doesn't post particularly often anyway so the 'mna didn't post much' argument i read somewhere is invalid!
- oh wait thats the only thing against WELL onto for i guess
- i think i ought to remind you that being a ninja/werewolf is for most (or at least me) more exciting than being a boring civi; so don't cha think mna would have been more likely to stay on...

also, sorry ronbert, when i voted i didn't know your 'innocent' status - i only voted for you so that the votes for me and you would be equal = no one lynched. so saving my arse there ;)
also, will change if any new evidence comes up...

[Shalashaska]

You're going around the point. Sawrfgehead was removed while The Mna was changed.

We need to figure out if this was for a reason.

[woodchip50]

HGL already clarified:

sawrfgehead's role was offered but no one took it.
mna's was also offered and i took it.

had i come on a day earlier i would probably have sawrfgehead's role instead...

kk? cleared up the suspicion?

[Roxit]

You are making some valid points and I am doubting my vote for you. Still have a day to change my mind so I'll leave it as it is for now.

[Vercci]

As I said, get some more evidence for someone else please then :(

[Shalashaska]

You still could be a ninja. I'll wait it out awhile.

[Ronbert]

There's no evidence and I'm running out of abstains; to save my own arse, and because he/she voted for me, Woodchip50 gets it from me. It pays to check your facts!

[malcolio]

I vote malcolio, as after sending doctor_fruitbat to Davey Jone's locker I'd like to have more evidence before voting for anyone else!

[friendly spoon]

I wish the gypsies would hurry up we need more evidence ):<

[Turkey Sandwich]

Aaaaaaaah, finally, I'm back. I just moved into a new student house and the internet wasn't working right away.

So! I see there have been developments. Although I can't really see who to vote for, so I'll waste my vote on nub. I only have 1 abstain left and wish to save it.

[happy-go-lucky]

The dwindling crew of pirates met up again to discuss who, if anyone, would walk the plank that night. Much suspicion fell upon the newcomer, woodchip50 (can I point out any difference between people being removed from the game is due to me being a retard rather than special roles), but in the end it was decided that nobody would die that night.
The doctor watched Eschaton's hammock carefully, but the ninjas must have encountered problems, or maybe they were building horror film-esque suspense, but either way, they killed nobody that night.

Summary
Nobody died, the doctor watched Eschaton.
Eschaton's role is now available (you need to vote, not just post.)

[Vercci]

pwned :D

[woodchip50]

so... our gypsie isn't playing anymore?

well then time for some deduction:
assuming Eschaton is a gypsie
we know that
Ronbert is innocent
Turkey Sandwich is innocent
Vercii is innocent
nub is innocent
- however any of them could be the master ninja
the following we do not know the innocent/guilty status of:
me(woodchip50)
Malcolio
Shalashaska
Roxit
argh
i think thats everyone...

now after reading through here are some interesting quotes:
Yarr, Nub seems innocent. However I still think he's suspicious so perhaps a master ninja?

OK, fine, logic doesn't always work in this game. :p

With that in mind, nub now does seem pretty guilty
!WARNING!
these are just suspicions and i would rather not act directly on them, i am just bringing up whatever evidence i can find..
!WARNING!

but I can only say that malcolio was quick to jump on and water the seeds of distrust...
now malcolio is a clever person from what i understand, and this point was subtle enough to be looked over but, as i said would have helped stir suspicion around nub, now in my opinion this seems more like an innocent confirming their suspicions - HOWEVER the next post:
What's happened with people playing? :confused:

And I'm not sure who to vote for, so I'll vote for malcolio.

is what has made me suspect him of FOUL PLAY! (hope to dear god that that is the correct foul/fowl and sp.)

you see, the lack of people playing means that his subtle suggestion has gone unnoticed because no one logged on - and he quickly retracted his suspicions as a 'confused civillain' which malcolio probably never is...

this makes it all seem a little too much like an act - as he is being careful not to poke his head out too far

ITS ALL A LITTLE FARFETCHED AND I KNOW I AM PROBABLY READING WAY TO MUCH INTO PEOPLES POSTS BUT we have very little else to go on...

and i have been watching a few too many detective things on tv since everyone went back to school...

any thoughts?

[Vercci]

You know he voted for himself right? I don't know where a subtle suggestion would be in there.

Probably too subtle :p

[argh]

God Damn it Eschaton!

well, I'm going to go with Roxit since I know I'm not a ninja and there's only a small list of unknowns.

[harryashfield]

Can I take over as Eschaton's role?

[malcolio]

but I can only say that malcolio was quick to jump on and water the seeds of distrust...
now malcolio is a clever person from what i understand, and this point was subtle enough to be looked over but, as i said would have helped stir suspicion around nub, now in my opinion this seems more like an innocent confirming their suspicions - HOWEVER the next post:


is what has made me suspect him of FOUL PLAY! (hope to dear god that that is the correct foul/fowl and sp.)

you see, the lack of people playing means that his subtle suggestion has gone unnoticed because no one logged on - and he quickly retracted his suspicions as a 'confused civillain' which malcolio probably never is...

this makes it all seem a little too much like an act - as he is being careful not to poke his head out too far

ITS ALL A LITTLE FARFETCHED AND I KNOW I AM PROBABLY READING WAY TO MUCH INTO PEOPLES POSTS BUT we have very little else to go on...

and i have been watching a few too many detective things on tv since everyone went back to school...

any thoughts?You do realise I led the way for 2 ninjas being killed, right? Plus thanks for taking my post out of context:

OK, fine, logic doesn't always work in this game. :p

With that in mind, nub now does seem pretty guilty, and I'm also thinking Roxit might be too, considering he was the one who wanted people to target those who hadn't voted for tehmoogles and Syl (plus he also name-dropped me pretty obviously too...).

I'm going to let someone else decide who to go for, as I screwed up the last vote. I was hoping to go 3 for 3, but oh well...As you can see I actually mentioned more than one name in my post, a tactic I've always used to show I'm not targeting anyone in particular. The fact that you decided to make it seem I hadn't makes me think you're a ninja. (After all, I was thinking The Mna was a ninja before you took over his role, so this does fit in with things).

So with this in mind I'm going after woodchip50, although feel free to argue me out of it. :)

[Ronbert]

Woodchip50 gets my vote again. Pointing the finger fairly aimlessly is not the way to go.

[woodchip50]

i wasn't trying to make it look like you only picked on one person. just picking up on what it could have been.

also your strong retaliation to my theory is more damning than what i had before.

also, ronbert.
you hypocrite.

[Ronbert]

also, ronbert.
you hypocrite.
Care to elaborate?

[malcolio]

also your strong retaliation to my theory is more damning than what i had before.Strong? What were you expecting, me to say 'Yeah, good point, thanks for pointing out I might be a ninja?'? :rolleyes:

Besides, if you're not trying to suggest I only mentioned one name, what is your point?

[Shalashaska]

i wasn't trying to make it look like you only picked on one person. just picking up on what it could have been.

also your strong retaliation to my theory is more damning than what i had before.

also, ronbert.
you hypocrite.

Jesus Christ. If Malcolio's a ninja, he sucks at his own game, because he's killed 2 of his own. It was almost directly through him that he died.
And a strong retaliation is pretty normal, considering you're trying to get him killed.

I would say you're a ninja, seeing as you're openly attacking someone who obviously isn't.

And as you pointed out before, you take a special interest in games where you have a ninja role. You seem to have posted alot, so if you aren't really a ninja, I suggest you stop targeting the people who definetley aren't.

[woodchip50]

my point was that it was a subtle message - i actually took out the bit about roxit because it made the post even longer. simply for convinience really.

and anyway i was only speculating.

but from you i expected a calmer response yes. It was hardly as though i was expecting praise but i did expect a more ... oh i don't know... well i do but i am struggling to explain it...

i expected you to simply formulate a logical argument against it..

and to Ronbert: i shouldn't have to elaborate as the term 'hypocrite' is self-explanatory anyway.
edit:
to shalashaska - i didn't realise he had rooted out two of the ninjas i haven't been here the entire time - i realise this is my fault for not reading through everything but that is the reason this was overlooked. if its any consolation i believe the theory invalid now. But i would like to remind you i was not condemning him and asked for thoughts because i wasn't 100% infact i wasn't 50%, it was just a suggestion.

meh, im probably going to be killed now anyway,
goodnight. and good luck although if harry gets eshatons role you wont need it. :D

[Shalashaska]

and to Ronbert: i shouldn't have to elaborate as the term 'hypocrite' is self-explanatory anyway.

The term is self-explanatory. The reason you used it isn't.

[Vercci]

and good luck although if harry gets eshatons role you wont need it.:D

Thankssss

woodchip50

[Roxit]

woodchip 50 again

[friendly spoon]

I vote woodchip50.

[happy-go-lucky]

During the day, the accusations against woodchip50 had grown more and more frequent, and as dusk drew in it was decided that he should be made to walk the plank, despite his protestations of innocence. Just as he reached the end of the plank he did a double somersault, whipping a sword from his belt, and cut off the head of Briny Bill. He must have misjudged the thickness of Bill's neck however, as cutting through stuff in midair tends to change the direction in which you go, as woodchip50 found out when he fell with a sploosh into the salty sea, to keep his appointment with Davey Jones. YARR.
The doctor protected nobody that night, but luckily the ninjas had been unable to agree on a victim before woodchip's death, so nobody died at their hands.

Summary
woodchip50 walked the plank, he was a ninja.
the ninjas killed nobody, the doctor protected nobody.
Shalashaska and turkey sandwich are advised to vote today.
Eschaton's role will be given to someone else unless he votes today, he pm'd me to confirm he was still playing but then didn't vote.

[malcolio]

Oh yeah, Ninjas 3 - Innocents 1, a scorecard for my bandwagons I'm very happy with. :D I'm a bit worried about you saying there are ninjas though h-g-l, I thought there were only 3 ninjas and 1 ninja master? :confused:

Talking of which, if we've killed off all the normal ninjas but the Ninja Master is still about on his own, I'm a bit stuck as to how we're going to discover him. Ideas?

[happy-go-lucky]

Yeah sorry just to clarify there is only the ninja master left now.

[Ronbert]

Sure the master ninja isn't already dead? He/she doesn't seem very pro-active, anyway.

[Roxit]

Perhaps it is one of the less talkative peeps then?

[Turkey Sandwich]

Of course, now the problem is that the ninja master can kill anyone they want with just one vote. There's no need for them to coordinate with anyone else any more.

Scary.

[argh]

Ronbert is innocent
Turkey Sandwich is innocent
Vercii is innocent
nub is innocent
- however any of them could be the master ninja
the following we do not know the innocent/guilty status of:
me(woodchip50)
Malcolio
Shalashaska
Roxit
argh

From-Woodchip

Mine

Ronbert-gypsy search, innocent
Turkey Sandwich-innocent
Vercii-gypsy search, innocent
nub-gypsy search, innocent
Malcolio-innocent or worst ninja ever
Shalashaska-innocent
Roxit
argh-innocent

So, my order of trying people is

Roxit
nub
ronbert
Vercii

I could be wrong though.

[Roxit]

Well I understand that are killings are going to be a little random now and as I have maybe been selected as the first to walk the plank to narrow down the search he is my defence.

When Syl was lynched I was the third person to vote for her that day. I was also the first to vote for woodchip 50, I can't help it if you chose to bandwaggon him the next day. As for the other ninja I didn't vote that day as I was called into work early.

As for my vote I'm going with nub.

[Vercci]

We need to go through all of posts before the last Lynching. Since the master ninja doesn't need to talk to someone, he can kill without "name dropping" now, so the only proof we'll ever have will be from previous posts.

[Shalashaska]

Well, since there's only one person left, I'll come clean with my findings.

I'm the Cabin boy.
My findings are, for the time:
The mna-Alseep in bed
Urlosenged-out getting killed
Ronbert-asleep in bed
Malcolio-asleep ni bed
(Forgot to ask this day. :S)
Argh-asleep in bed last night

Use it as you will.
Nub

[Ronbert]

I'm going to let this unravel for itself before I make any judgement, there's not an awful lot to go on even at this stage.

[Vercci]

Doctor, if shalashaska is telling the truth, I'd recommend protecting shalashaska, since if the master ninja tries to kill someone, only the cabin boy can see it now. People in that list might have just not used their special ability that day.

Voting Roxit to waste a vote.

[malcolio]

Actually, the Cabin Boy would have just been told that the player was a normal crew member, if he had checked the Ninja Master's identity. So Shalashaska's revelation isn't helpful, except for proving that he is innocent (seeing as nobody else is saying they are the Cabin Boy).

I've still yet to look through the posts again, so for now I won't be voting.

And there's no point in wasting votes btw, in this stage of the game time is against the pirate's side.

[friendly spoon]

Mine

Ronbert-gypsy search, innocent
Turkey Sandwich-innocent
Vercii-gypsy search, innocent
nub-gypsy search, innocent
Malcolio-innocent or worst ninja ever
Shalashaska-innocent
Roxit
argh-innocent

So, my order of trying people is

Roxit
nub
ronbert
Vercii

I could be wrong though.

Just out of intrest why did you go for the three people who had been checked?
Also Roxit

[Turkey Sandwich]

I'm going to go through and check all the posts when I have more time, but since I need to vote today and I might not have a chance later, I'm going to vote for Roxit for now. Sorry if I'm wrong, and I may change my vote soon if I find more evidence; but the fact is, if the worst comes to the worst, we may just have to work our way through and execute all those four people. That way at least we'll definitely win.

[Roxit]

It is more than four that need to be worked through. I can't see how Ronbert is anymore innocent than myself for example.

[Vercci]

So the first mate should kill someone now, and speed this up or something.

[malcolio]

I'm going for Roxit based on the following:

Ronbert is so stupidly innocent it hurts. He was targeted at different times by three ninjas! Yet apparently that doesn't mean he's innocent in Roxit's book. He name drops Ronbert and tries to argue against him here (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2016059#post2016059) and here (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2018142#post2018142) and readies his vote here (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2018583#post2018583) (it's fun seeing tehmoogle do exactly the same in the post after. :D ) He still hasn't given up on Ronbert here (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2019048#post2019048) even though he votes for Syl, so namedropping Ronbert again!

What really does it for me though is that it was Roxit who specifically asked someone to go through the previous posts and find out who had defended both ex-ninjas: Clicky (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2022549#post2022549). He was banking someone like me doing so and knew that the evidence would point to doctor_fruitbat more than anyone else, who turned out to be innocent. Then, when I did do as he asked, Roxit name drops me quite blatantly here (http://forums.weebls-stuff.com/showthread.php?p=2023300#post2023300).

However, the last nail in the coffin for me in deciding Roxit's guilt is actually something that other might think show his innocence. He goes after woodchip50 before anyone else, then says he might be wrong but still does vote for him twice. 'Aha, he must be innocent then, going after a fellow ninja!' I don't hear you cry. Well, no. At this stage of the game Roxit would have figured out that he had nothing to show he was an innocent pirate, and that soon people would be pouring over everyone's posts for the scantiest of clues. What better then to go after the last normal ninja? Get some apparently good evidence that you're not a ninja while at the same time speeding things up and letting you decide who to kill without needing to agree with anyone else. After all, this end-game is exactly what a Ninja Master wants: nobody knows who he is and he doesn't need to risk his identity being revealed by trying to communicate with anyone.

What proves this rather than Roxit actually generally going after woodchip50 is that this plan of going after a fellow ninja to prove your innocence only works if you immediately shove this fact into the pirate's faces as soon as people start pointing at fingers at you. You can't rely on other pirates noticing your apparent act of innocence, so you need to make sure they know about it, and understand it's consequences! So what do we have?Well I understand that are killings are going to be a little random now and as I have maybe been selected as the first to walk the plank to narrow down the search he is my defence.

When Syl was lynched I was the third person to vote for her that day. I was also the first to vote for woodchip 50, I can't help it if you chose to bandwaggon him the next day. As for the other ninja I didn't vote that day as I was called into work early.

As for my vote I'm going with nub.Bingo! :D


I realise I got things wrong with doctor_fruitbat (which I now partially blame on Roxit), and I wish I had better evidence. But going through all the previous posts Roxit seems the most guilty. I just hope he is as if he is innocent I have no idea who the real Ninja Master could be! :(

Also, could the Ship's Doctor and First Mate reveal themselves the next day if Roxit isn't the Ninja Master? Your roles aren't that important now really (well I guess the First Mate is) but it would narrow down our choices as to who to go for. :)

[Roxit]

Bah screw this lol. yes I am the Master Ninja well done. :) No point dragging this out any longer than needs be.

I believe this game is far too much in favour of the good guys. The first few days I'll admit that I didn't always vote the same way as my fellow ninjas, but its hard to decided if you should go for somebody that could make another ninja look real guilty or vote somebody else to try and save them. Also real hard to communicate at all when you have three abstains.
Also with the mna not voteing it made it impossible for me to kill anyone for 3 or 4 days. Sorry h-g-l but on one day you said the mna's role was up for grabs and so for a day technicaly the only ninja was me, mna wasn't playing and nobody had taken over yet, yet when i voted you also said there was a no vote from mna, so voteing was pointless. And then woodchip 50 didn't vote either lol

HeeHee on the first day I made a joke about a pirate with one eye, this was meant to suggest Iball, then I realised they weren't playing.

[malcolio]

Yeah, it's a tricky game. I think 3 abstains is too much, 2 just about right. In theory the ninjas/werewolves/gangsters should just do nothing for 2 days and hope they aren't targeted by gypsies.

You did well Roxit, but I think if I had been the Master Ninja I either would have taken a very strong lead and got the ninjas to easily vote for someone, knowing I would appear innocent, or be a complete bastard and sell out the other ninjas right from the start.

In this game I think the ninjas didn't play a very good game (sorry if that offends you, I'm just saying!). Looking back they didn't communicate that well, and obviously The Mna was hardly playing! It is a tricky game, I think right now the civilians have too much of an advantage, but still.

Maybe in the next game have less special roles for the civilians, or make it that you can't abstain (but you can still waste your vote by targetting yourself or someone who can't possible have a majority).

I had fun though, and damn you Roxit for making me go after doctor_fruitbat. :p You swine! I think happy-go-lucky did well, I really liked the narration, but didn't think she was kicking people's arses enough when they weren't playing. Those who have played my previous games know I constantly PM people if they don't look like they're playing, and immediately replace someone if possible. It might get annoying but it's the only way to keep the game going!

[Roxit]

Were you the doctor?

[malcolio]

Nope, just a normal civilian. I have no idea who had the special roles!

[Roxit]

Oh darn, I was sure you were the doctor lol.

Yeah should have really sold out Syl on the first or second day.

[Shalashaska]

gg.

Roxit

First mate's going to kill him anyway.

[Vercci]

We need wolves that actually vote though...

We can't fully test out if the new roles work because the only tests we've done were with wolves that wouldn't vote.

[Roxit]

Hey guys malcolio is a wolf for sure. He hacked into my account and pinned it all on me.

[malcolio]

:p

HeeHee on the first day I made a joke about a pirate with one eye, this was meant to suggest Iball, then I realised they weren't playing.I wondered what the hell that was about! :D

We need wolves that actually vote though...

We can't fully test out if the new roles work because the only tests we've done were with wolves that wouldn't vote.But the same roles have been used in the previous game, and how do you know the werewolves didn't vote? Just The Mna's role wasn't helping, not all of them! I think at least another werewolf special role would balance things out a bit, either have two Ninja Masters or make the one Ninja Master be able to have two votes. Something like that.

[Roxit]

Depending on what way my game goes as I have not decided yet, I plan to give the Vampire Count the chance to bite and turn somebody into another Vampire. They will immediatly become a vampire. It doesn't matter if they are a tink or another goodie role.

[woodchip50]

we don't have doctor confirmed yet do we?

i figured ronbert was.
would have killed malcolio in night but internet was down - could have meant a slight difference - at least you wouldn't have that huge chunk of an argument to contend with.

ah well, really ballsed it up by deciding not to be discreet...

sorry roxit...came in and ruined it for you...

[argh]

I'm the doctor, Dr McArgh.

I'm also really sorry everyone that I forgot to watch over Urlosenged the night he or she I'm really not sure was eaten.

I was really hoping my list wouldn't come back to haunt me too, since I did say things a regular person wouldn't know.

[Urlosenged]

I'm the doctor, Dr McArgh.

I'm also really sorry everyone that I forgot to watch over Urlosenged the night he or she I'm really not sure was eaten.

I was really hoping my list wouldn't come back to haunt me too, since I did say things a regular person wouldn't know.

Just thought I'd clear that up.

Also do you lot have any idea how frustrating it is watching you not kill people when I knew they were a ninja? :p

[malcolio]

Just thought I'd clear that up.

Also do you lot have any idea how frustrating it is watching you not kill people when I knew they were a ninja? :pHey, I thought we did quite well. :p Especially me, getting all four ninjas with only doctor_fruitbat as a casualty. (Although I might be biast a tad, I guess...)

Was luck on Syl's part that she randomly went after a gypsy in the first day. Ah well, Eshaton managed to finger themoogles and was brave enough to just go out and say so, and argh did a good job keeping him alive for a little while longer. :)

[Turkey Sandwich]

I was really hoping my list wouldn't come back to haunt me too, since I did say things a regular person wouldn't know.

Yeah, I spotted that, but obviously I knew why it was. Thanks for naming me innocent, apparently nobody noticed that there was actually no evidence to support me, hehe.

Anyway, as the game is about to end, I might as well tell you all that I am the Buccaneer. My plan was to kill one of the four suspects left (hence my saying that we would definitely win, despite the numbers of suspects and confirmed innocents being exactly equal). That's a little redundant now, but I have tried to use my kill tonight anyways.

So woo, another win for the civilians - that's both of the games I've been in. Maybe there's a link... ;)

[woodchip50]

Eshaton managed to finger themoogles

...

thats dirty malcolio...

[Iball]

HeeHee on the first day I made a joke about a pirate with one eye, this was meant to suggest Iball, then I realised they weren't playing.

:D

I wish I was playing, but I'm glad I was able to effect the game (however slightly) anyway. Hopefully I'll have some time to play Game 8. :)

[Ronbert]

Good game folks :)

[happy-go-lucky]

Ok, firstly I am extremely sorry for the late update, my dad decided to hide the modem because of stuff.

Anyway, last ever update!

With the death of woodchip50, the crew knew that they had only one ninja left to find. The problem was, he (or she) was the ninja master, a ninja so skilled in the arts of sneakyness, guile, and climbing really really tall buildings, that even a gypsy would never spot them. The Cabin Boy aka shalashaska told the crew about his nefarious night time activities, (stealing from sea chests, tut tut,) and let them know who had been asleep on the nights he'd been raiding, but it was little help to the crew.
Luckily one pirate, Malcolio happened to have been Sherlock Holmes in a previous life, and was able to point out an enormous amount of incriminating evidence against one Roxit, who carried a suspicious knife in his belt as well.
Faced with this pretty much irrefutable evidence of his guilt, Roxit stood up and admitted that he was indeed the master of all the ninjas. He stalked around the circle of astounded pirates, hands in pockets, telling them how he would have killed them all if not for one of his sidekicks, the mna, and his incredible laziness.
As he walked past Malcolio, the one who had forced him to reveal himself, he suddenly spun to face him, at the same time whipping his hand out of his pocket to reveal a wickedly sharp knife, which flashed in the light of the setting sun for a brief second before being plunged into the heart of the unlucky Malcolio.
Unbeknownst to Roxit, the old pirate standing next to Malcolio at the time was the buccaneer, capable of killing with his bare hands. He didn't need to however, for as Roxit turned away, leaving the dead Malcolio slumped on the floor, Turkey Sandwich, (for the buccaneer was he,) jerked the knife out of his crew mate's chest and in the same movement sunk it deep into the back of the deadly ninja.
Seeing Roxit stagger towards the edge of the ship, the crew rushed him en mass and shoved him over the side. He landed in the eerily calm sea with a loud splash, and as the crew looked over the edge they could see his body floating slowly down though the green waters.
They turned away to see what could be done for Malcolio, but he was already dead. Argh, the ship's doctor, checked his pulse, but he was long gone.

Congratulations Pirates, you beat the Ninjas! Your ship is now safe from their menace, although admittedly a bit short handed.

[Shalashaska]

Is it really that difficult to type my name? :(

[happy-go-lucky]

Better now? :p

[malcolio]

OK, I'm annoyed that I was stabbed to death right at the end, but this sentance makes up for it. :D


Luckily one pirate, Malcolio happened to have been Sherlock Holmes in a previous life, and was able to point out an enormous amount of incriminating evidence against one Roxit, who carried a suspicious knife in his belt as well.

Nicely run h-g-l. :)

[Turkey Sandwich]

Unbeknownst to Roxit, the old pirate standing next to Malcolio at the time was the buccaneer, capable of killing with his bare hands. He didn't need to however, for as Roxit turned away, leaving the dead Malcolio slumped on the floor, Turkey Sandwich, (for the buccaneer was he,) jerked the knife out of his crew mate's chest and in the same movement sunk it deep into the back of the deadly ninja.

Awesome.

Good game everyone! There may only have been 6 of us left by the end, but we did it. Huzzah!

[Roxit]

Yeah got ya bitch