Sex

[Beef Magic]

Here's the debate topic about Sex.

Age of consent between a male and female (England) - 16


I believe that people who consent to each other in an act of love, than Sex is perfectly normal and is a human thing. As long as some precautions are taken at lower ages, then i have no problem with it.

[Tempus]

I personally think that 16 is too young. If I'd have known then what I know now... blah blah. Also, smoking should be illegal. Maybe I would quit then. Hah. Fat chance.

[Anti - Squirrel]

Feel free to ignore this, but I think the age of consent is a bit pointless anyway. My friend's Sister had her first kid at 14.

But to be honest, the age of consent was put there because that's when people thought kids were mature and responsible enough to make their own decisions and deal with the consequences. Everyone matures at a different rate. I know that I, for one, didn't wake up on my 16th Birthday feeling older, wiser and more responsible than I did the night before, and even at 20, I know people who aren't mature enough to handle it.

Not that it matters, anyway. Kids these days, thy don't bloody listen. :rolleyes:

[CheHamstera]

i think you'll find that we have an age of consent to make childhood rape cases easier to prosecute.

under 16's having sex = statutory rape

over 16's = less likely to be pressured into sex, according to the law anyway.

i know the law is a sweeping generalisation, but that what laws tend to be. it's there for protection, and to try to make sure kids put their homework before having kids of their own

[Dr-Electro]

I have a lot of catching up to do. Being old and slow is like being old and slow. [/non-sequitur]

Sex is life. Sex is procreation. Sex is a ton of fun for two consenting partners. Age is less an issue than is maturity. I have known thirteen year olds who seemed more mature than some of the over-forties I have known.

Life prepares each of us to make choices. The better you are able to make informed choices and able to live with the consequences of your choices, the more mature you are. With each experience, you grow. If you have a good first encounter with sex, you will injoy it more as you grow older. If you have religious bull crap shoved down your young, impressionable throat, you may fear sex and loathe the idea of having sex. If you listen to some of the educators out there, you will abstain to the point of dying a spinster. (males can qualify as spinsters as much as females can)

Make the best choices for yourself. Learn to accept the consequences of your choices and choose wisely so that the consequences are not bad ones. Let the rest of the world make its own choices and stay away from the stupid buttheads of the world. It sounds simple and it is. The best path to take in life is the one that keeps you out of trouble. The great sex follows naturally, as long as you remember to always be yourself around those you find attractive.

Have sex or don't have sex, it is your body, your life, your choice.

[Lunchpie]

Originally posted by CheHamstera
i think you'll find that we have an age of consent to make childhood rape cases easier to prosecute.

under 16's having sex = statutory rape

over 16's = less likely to be pressured into sex, according to the law anyway.

i know the law is a sweeping generalisation, but that what laws tend to be. it's there for protection, and to try to make sure kids put their homework before having kids of their own

So you say that if a girl who is fifteen and a boy who is say... also fifteen has sex it is a rape?

I belive that age doesn't mean anything when it comes to being as you said a rape.

Rape is after the laws where I come from forced sex...

But it's probably different in the US

[Beef Magic]

I lost my virginity at 15. The Girl was 14.

It was consental.

[rabid anarchist]

No one takes any notice of that law, tbh.
The only time ive ever heard of anyone taking notice is when the girl is suing the guy in court becasue shes under 16 and pregnant.. :/

The law doesnt bother me, or anyone else i know. What does it matter?
Your body, your life, your choice.
Its upto the individual to make the decision, not a Govt that doesnt care anyway.

[Pixel]

i could be wrong, but i read somewhere that 16 is the age of consent for girls, boys dont actually have one....

if im right, this could mean that if a 15 year old boy has sex with a 16 year old girl, it would be legal...

[rabid anarchist]

*shrugs*
I wouldnt know.

I think gay men have to be over 18 to have sex, whereas lesbians cant really have sex as such (sans strap ons) so there is no age limit for that either.

[Timoklon]

sex is almost essential. and... well, in london at least, laws are respected, in a way, but not exactly abided. im 13, mosta my mates have had sex. and what with all the cannabis and everything you might as well call us criminals, jeez.... :D

[rabid anarchist]

id call you normal teeens tbh.

[Beef Magic]

I agree that it is people's body want they can do what they want.

But mindless sex isn't my bag.

Baby.

- Dave

[pink_panther]

As far as im concerned, as long as it isnt forced upon them (rape) then you can do as you please:). but i recon that an age of sixteen is the right idea, it helps you look forward to the day!

[goody 2 shoos]

sex.... i am sexy.......... come on over tonite!!! touch me and you'll burn your fingers... that's how HOT I am.... but i aint gonna do anything toooooo hardcore till my honeymoon... which will take place in the carribean!!!! yay.... i need a husband..... not william wallace who has joined this forums thingie, yet he hasnt posted anything yet... which is wierd cuz he's sucha loud mouth... oh well... it's... just... toooooooooo bad!
k so no :nana: till marriage or else u'll get to see him :evil: personally... SMILEYS!!!!!!!!!!




no... i am smokin'... seriously!! i bet u want some :fluffle: outta me! welll noooo... only if ur weebl!

[SunFlower]

Right baby :rolleyes:

Ontopic:
I remember that when I had my first boyfriend (I was 15) I simply just didn't think about having sex. Just the kissing and touching a little bit was already exciting enough for me. When I was 17 and started a new relation I did think about sex and so the (in my eyes) natural thing happened because I felt ready and it felt right.
So I think if it feels really right for you it might be the right time. Although it seems all the girls nowadays feel ready at 12 :confused: Probably those are the cases you hear most about. In my group of seven (girl)friends I was the youngest and the second person to do it, so no below sixteens there :)
I have to say I will be confused if I might have a daughter one day stating she is ready and being around 14...
Anyway: whatever you do, make sure it is safe and don't use just a condom but also please take birthcontrol pills. 16 is too young to have a child but also when you're older it isn't something you want to happen to you unexpectedly!!

[PieKaos]

Well...my personal beliefs don't approve of out of marriage sex but that doesn't stop me from having an opinion. I believe 16 is the right age for consent. Before then, and I'm speaking just in general so nobody get offended, kids honestly aren't mature enough to handle a commitment like that. I know that I certainly wasn't (no matter how much I think I was). Heck, I was barely even mature enough to handle a GIRLFRIEND, much less sex. Yes, I know that some 15 or even 14 year olds are very mature, some more so than even some seniors I know, but from my experience, 16 is when real personal maturity really begins to grow.

[Wolf-E]

Originally posted by SunFlower
16 is too young to have a child but also when you're older it isn't something you want to happen to you unexpectedly!!

I agree - havin a baby at 16 means ur life is practally over, cos u have responsibilities. Also, if u do have a baby, and split with your BF, (as a few teenage mums do), that ruins the Baby's life aswell, never knowing who their real father is etc. its just not rite

*reads back* hmmm i seemed to have strolled a little deeper in to this debate :S, it could start a new path
What age do you think it is right to have kids at? :S
r well... i'll leave it up to you if you want to go down this path...

[CheHamstera]

as everyone has said, this is a complicated issue. i didn't mean that age decreed rape - not in the slightest. but the age limit is about trying to keep children safe from older people who might prey on them.

it's the age gap in a sexual relationship that worries me. it always makes me feel sick when i hear about a 14 yr old girl 'going out with' a 20yr old man, or vise verca. it makes you worry that the younger person is being taken advantage of in a situation where s/he doesn't feel entirely comfortable in the first place.

some kids do have sex at 15 and nothing bad happens to them. as someone else said, it's all about maturity.

and yes, the US laws are very different to the UK laws. but then again, the US laws differ greatly from state to state.

...

with regards to having kids, if you a still a child you should not be having children of your own. but age isn't too good at showing who is and who isn't a child. again it's about maturity in the face of a huge responsibility.

[DjHeXy]

the issue in discussion is the law really, ie. the age that the law recognises it as "legal" to have a session (with consent).

our laws are so messed up as it is, that I doubt its top of their (the governments (small G)) agenda anyway.

At the end of the day, the way I see it, is that only the genuinely sensible 16yr olds will ask for consent anyway, the majority of youngsters most likely dont even bother.

16 is as reasonable an age as you can get for consentual sex. with school/higher education, you may argue against it, but modern society has a stronger point of view than some law made by big-wigs.

anyway back to bed for me :)

[Trof]

:weebl: The legal age was set in victorian time and was set at the legal age of marrage and "polite society" of the time people did not have sex before marrage.Though any age restriction is a bit pointless as like me most boys did it at the first chance they got regradless of their age at the time with the first girl that let them.

[Hydralisk]

Sex.

I think you should be between 16 - 18yr old before you begin having sex. Use condoms!

If you want to have sex before that, It is entirely up to you.

[rabid anarchist]

Id hate to have a kid.
Actually, i dont think i ever want kids tbh.
Course, i got loads of time to change my mind there.
But so much HASSLE.

plus, what happens if they take after me? o.O

[PoofBird]

and what would happen if they sign up on the forums?

o_O

[rabid anarchist]

...now THERES a scary thought...

oh my.

The Spam...

[Beef Magic]

I say.

[William Wallace]

Goody, you had better pray you do not become my wife, or else you might find out why they call the Highlands the Highlands.

Hint: Watch Highlander: Endgame. Bed.

[Yoggerflame]

THERES NO SUCH THING AS CONSENT.

All the little people are going to be doing it anyway with or without it.

Thy'r missing out tho. they arent mature enuff to truely appreciate it. It just something to do for them. While away the hours in some allotment or back alley with a couple of bottles of 20/20.

[Beef Magic]

that may seem confrontal, but yes, i agree to some extent. There are too many McTeen Mothers these days.

Tis why i believe to only do it in acts of love.

- Dayffveuth

[Seraph]

I'd have to agree with the majority..
Only have sex when you feel right.

Not sexually right.... ;) lol, i mean... the feeling that it's right, the moment is perfect, etc.

However, i don't think that if you are 16 and under, you should be exploring that far. Maybe my own opinions? Maybe not?

I also think that you should be 'IN LOVE' rather than just 'LOVING' someone before you have sex... :)

Take Care, and play safe, heh. :nana:

[Pie Diddy]

I think people should be able to have sex at whatever age they feel comfortable with

[O_oo_O]

o_OO_o

[Destrukto]

I think that and any other pic just gave the whole forum a good image of what kind of person you are...

[Cabbage]

I'm 14, and most of my class mates spend most of their time boasting about all the sex they've had. Which is mostly a pile of crap.



argh.... too many mosts

[rabid anarchist]

Why is it that more guys can boast about having sex younger, whilst girls are seen as sluts?

[Dr-Electro]

That's what's left of an ancient stereotype, baby. I grew up at the tail end of the age of "Boys will be boys, but girls must be ladies." Mostly crap again. I personally have never been one to kiss and tell. I have never felt the need ot lie about imaginary sexual conquests in order to boost my social standing with a bunch of retarded Neanderthals who have nothing better to do than try to ruin other people's reputations.

That's my word on the matter. Show others the respect they deserve. You earn their respect in return for yours.

[Pseudo]

Originally posted by PieKaos
I believe 16 is the right age for consent. Before then, and I'm speaking just in general so nobody get offended, kids honestly aren't mature enough to handle a commitment like that [...]from my experience, 16 is when real personal maturity really begins to grow.

To be quite honest, I don't think 16 is old enough for most people - as you quite right say, that's the age when maturity starts to grow; by no means are you fully mature.

Everyone (everyone who's old enough, that is...) think back.
How much 'growing up' did you do between the ages of 16 and 18 ?

A hell of a lot, methinks.

If we have an age of consent (which does little except add to peer pressure), 18 makes a lot more sense (raising the hetero age to 18 would also sidestep all the bigotry regarding the male homo age of consent) - it's really only a 'recommended' age anyway.

Statutory rape cases very rarely get brought to trial as it is - and rape laws and procedures have been refined over the past decade so as to make statutory rape obsolescent anyway.

What raising the age of consent to 18 would do, however, would make young 'uns think a bit more before going ahead and having sex at 16 'just because' - which is something that by no means everyone does, but it does cross the mind of most of us, and I'm certain there's a good proportion who rush into sex at 16 because they feel they have to.

[Beef Magic]

Originally posted by rabid anarchist
Why is it that more guys can boast about having sex younger, whilst girls are seen as sluts?

Quite true. Lads can go around saying "Oh, yeh, i fucked like 16 girls in the last week", and everyone will think he's THE MAN.

BUT

A lass can go around saying "I had 16 guys last week" and everyone will think she's a slut.

Crazy, non?

I'd say anyone (male or female) who has mindless sex is a slut, while someone who has sex for love is human.

[Cigarash]

What's always amused me about the whole age of consent thing, is that a girl can be 15 years old and 6 months, and it's illegal, but then 6 months down the line it's all legal and above board. Does anybody here know anyone who's body/mentality/maturity changed noticably in that 6 month period between rape and legality? - I think maybe not. I certainly never have, and anybody I have had this conversation with before also never has.

Ash

[Cigarash]

Also, it is getting increasingly difficult to tell how old girls are nowadays. An example being the daughter of a woman my ex-girlfriend works with, who I happened to share the same 5 foot of bar with as I was waiting to be served. She was chatting to her mum and a customer at the time, left the pub, and then I heard her mum ask the customer how old he thought her daughter was. He guessed at around 19 / 20, and I was thinking about the same, maybe even 21. Turns out she was 12. if a 12 year old girl can pass as a late teen / early 20s woman, short of making girls carry around prominent ID everywhere they go, is it any wonder that so many blokes end up having sex with 14 / 15 year olds???

Ash

[Dwarfer_stu]

Someone mighta already said this, but I don't believe peer pressure exists. If someone doesn't want to do something they dont have to.

My friends I had for about 3 years started doing drugs, all cannabis and they all also lost their virginity (if they weren't bullshittin), I now don't talk to them anymore and have new friends.

[macky]

sEX? iM ALL FOR IT!!!
In olden days (medieval, like) peeps were muvvers and vaters at the age of 13, and u cant say they were wrong cos that was there culture (probably cos they died earlier)
BANANA!!! :nana:

[Yoggerflame]

Originally posted by macky
sEX? iM ALL FOR IT!!!
In olden days (medieval, like) peeps were muvvers and vaters at the age of 13, and u cant say they were wrong cos that was there culture (probably cos they died earlier)
BANANA!!! :nana:

True, people died earlier, as they were not as well educated as we are now, as with the advanced medical facilities we have, therefor prolonging life.
But...

With the onset of religion and organised chaos, being our civilisation, monogomous relationships arose and acceptance of sex for procreation within a stable family atmosphere.
This behaviour separated us from what we were, or seen as, and this being, animals.

I am aetheist (go on... throw yer eggs at me... well, I DO have a religion... MUSIC... but that's beside the point........), so the whole having sex out of marriage is TOTALLY fine by me ;) hee, hee, hee, but the fact that little people are doing this and gettin up the duff, infuriates me beyond... I dunno... something that really infuriates me. The main point being...

I WORK MY F*CKN ARSE OFF, SO AS TO PAY F*CKN TAXES, SO SOME CRETIN 11YR OLD NOT-FIT-TO-BE-A-MOTHER CAN LIVE IN SOME COUNCIL ESTATE/BLOCK, COURTESY OF MY POCKET!!!

IT'S BANG OUTTA ORDER!!!!!

I balme a few factors as to why this society has begome so accepting of such behaviour... (disagree by all means if you do....)

1/ Education: Lack of sex education... sort of. Fair enuff, I had S/E, and I think it was taught well. I didnt agree with girls and boys being split up for the lesson, cos at the end of the day, it takes one of each (unless one is of an opposite nature), to do the horizontal tango. But, then as usual, there will always be those in the class, who dont listen and would prefere to shoot spit balls at the ceiling and those that just dont have the capability to learn... and not forgetting the whole peer pressure thing.

2/ Peer pressure: Created by, in my eyes, the media. Music videos, films, adverts, magazines, fashion... the core which little people grow up around, is full of sex or sexual images. Unfortunately, if we were to take these away, for all the big people like us, (well the majority here)... well, it would be quite a boring place to in.

3/The parents: f*ckn teach em the sh*t, keep them on a short leash, keep em in check, deal with their f*ckn tantrums and dont f*ckn say "it's alright darlin... here have a condom or two, and go and have some fun." B*LL*X!

Rant over.

[rabid anarchist]

1. sex ed. Is going to stop so many pregnancies, but stop kids having sex? Unlikely...

3. doesnt matter what the parents say. Did you listen to your parents and never do anytihng you know they would disapprove of?

[Martial Law]

Originally posted by Beef Magic
I'd say anyone (male or female) who has mindless sex is a slut, while someone who has sex for love is human.

Profound, man, profound. And my thoughts exactly.

I guess I'm fairly weird being 16 and only wanting sex if it's an expression of love. Still chaste, but with a girl who I think is "Ms Right" so fingers crossed, eh? ;)

[Beef Magic]

You sir, are a premier league cunt because you agree with me and you have my avatar :D

*this is a good thing, being a premier league cunt*

I WORK MY F*CKN ARSE OFF, SO AS TO PAY F*CKN TAXES, SO SOME CRETIN 11YR OLD NOT-FIT-TO-BE-A-MOTHER CAN LIVE IN SOME COUNCIL ESTATE/BLOCK, COURTESY OF MY POCKET!!!

I call them McTeen Mothers, based on a song by the Shittleport Anti-Paeanises.

[Panda_Lord]

You know, though this is a subject that I speak of about NEVER (of my own free will), I give you kudos for posting this debate. Anyway, my view:

If you're not married and under 20, it is wrong, don't do it, don't speak of it, WAIT!!!!

[Pseudo]

I don't believe peer pressure exists. If someone doesn't want to do something they dont have to.


Not everyone has that kind of strength of personality when they're 14.

The herd instinct is very strong in most teenagers - there is a need to be accepted.

Couple this with vast amounts of insecurity (courtesy of those lovely, lovely hormones) and the threat of losing your friends, or having them think you're soft (which sounds ridiculous to most of us. Now) suddenly becomes very serious.

Being a teenager was fun...

[Dr-Electro]

Being a teenager was an ungodly rollercoaster. Sky high on good feelings one second, feeling suicidal the next. Wanting all the stuff I wasn't supposed ot have, not wanting anything I already had. Girls everywhere. Rivals everywhere. Girls who would have sex with everybody in the whole damned world except me. Girls I couldn't stand throwing themselves at me. Friends who would turn on me like a pack of dogs one day and hail me as their hero the next. Starting a band. Breaking up with the band. Starting another band. Getting drafted. Fighting in Viet Nam before I was old enough to buy a drink.

I am glad I survived it. Hats off to all the rest of you surviving it now. Hang in there, baby!

[Kelv]

whilst i was at school no-one i hung around with ever talked or boasted about sex... although it was at the back of our minds constantly... i'm now 16 and have started college, and 90 odd percent my fellow students talk or boast shall i say, about having had sex etc etc... my personal opinion is that of sex should be saved until you have met the right person who you truly love, and when your mature enough to have it.. and at 16 of below i dont think that most ppl are...

Kelv.

[Beef Magic]

Originally posted by Panda_Lord
You know, though this is a subject that I speak of about NEVER (of my own free will), I give you kudos for posting this debate. Anyway, my view:

If you're not married and under 20, it is wrong, don't do it, don't speak of it, WAIT!!!!


Many others may not share such an old fashioned view such as this.

[Disturbed]

Sorry, in advance, I tend to be quite the A-hole.

I admin Half-Life servers for a little extra money every month, and I get about 20 or 30 of these people coming in every day CLAIMING they've had sex before. Sure they have amazing stories that fit together and almost make it believable. I don't know how it is in the UK (I sense alot of you are British, I have a British and Canadian Dual Citizenship myself), but I know FOR A FACT, that ATLEAST, ATLEAST!!!!!!! half of you are lying (who are under 25) , and thats being REALLY generous. You all have some pretty good stories, but I've seen people make up some WHOPPERS about sex and their supposed first time. I mean, the stories I've seen are even more believable than that of the ones on this page. But I will stake my life on the fact that ATLEAST 50 percent of you are lying (who are under 25). Now, why would you? We are just a bunch of people online, we don't know eachother. Why should you feel the need to lie, it just makes you look kind of pathetic and desperate. I'm not going to pretend I have, before someone fingers me. But this is just something I know, I have been an admin for over 4 years on different games, I've seen huge nerds, I've seen small nerds, I've seen people who feel they need to create a seperate and improved life online and, after a while, you just learn to feel it out. I don't want to start bashing the "socially challenged" here, as I'm sure some of you are (don't deny it, I'm not insulting, merely just stating a fact), but the way to become UN"SOCIALLY CHALLENGED" is to not lie about things you can't even comprehend, like sex and drugs (if you don't believe I smoke pot check out my website in the SIG). I just hope that what I have said will inspire those who fall into the previously stated bracket of social popularity to become better people, which leads to actually having sex. THEN, and only THEN, may you come on here and act like you are all experienced and sh*t in the ways of sex.

To the people who are offended by this or I have accused of lying and am wrong, I am truly sorry, but this is just one of the truths about life I just know to be certain.

[Beef Magic]

errr... this isn't a debate about who has had sex. It's people's opinions on sex.


I know for a fact that i have had sex. I am not lying at this. Why would i lie? It's a fact. True, there are people on this fourm who do not know me. But there are some who do.

But thats not the point. I'm under 25. and. I'm not lying.

[Disturbed]

i did not accuse you of not having sex, actually, I dont even know if the same truthes about canadians in my area even comes CLOSE to what happens in the UK, so let me downgrade it abit.

ATLEAST ONE PERSON HERE IS LYING AND THAT PERSON SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND RETHINK HIS PATH IN LIFE BEFORE HE BECOMES A CHRONICLY DEPRESSED LONELY PERSON.

I did not mean to go off topic, if there is a post about sex I just have to chime in since most of the time im just plain right. I mean look at this thread, its 4 pages long, only cuz its about sex. I cant be all wrong in what I said. Sorry to you for offending you, I did not mean such. I think its good you have a healthy teenage life, thats what I like to see on the internet. Its a really nice break from my hobby/job, since i have to talk to mindless 13 year olds spouting rubbish about how they got laid , had 22 beers and 2 ounces mj last night. I hope you can see where I am coming from, sometimes I just need to vent and make my view clear on these people talking about sex on the internet. There are just too many nerds out there. I used to be a big ass nerd, trust me. So I know how they think and how they talk. But I followed my own advice (as previously stated), put my life on track. I just want others to follow the same path. I know that people that far in to life and lying about sex to ppl they dont even know are headed for trouble. Trust me, loneliness can become worse than a thousand knives in your chest.

Again, sorry to all who I am incorrect about or who take offense to my posts.

[Disturbed]

i just realized that most of the people I see in the servers are usually American...so its American Truths...not canadian

[SunFlower]

@ Disturbed
Haha! Is this just a cheesy trick to let us all post pics showing you that we really do have sex :rolleyes: ;)

But no, I think you have a good point Disturbed. Although you could have brought it a little more subtle. But anyway, your point is clear.
One thing I am wondering about though is if indeed a lot of people in this thread did lie. I can totally see your point if this forum would be a pub with like 20 people there. And suddenly the conversation is about sex. Well you cannot say nothing, that would be noticed so you do talk along and might lie about you (fictional) sexlife.
However we are not in a small pub. We are on a forum with a few hundred members. Nobody will notice if you do not contribute to the conversation. And even the conversation itself is something you do not have to listen to or think about. So why take the effort to contribute to totally strangers about your opinion on sex? (Cause mind you, it was not about having had sex yes or no. It was purely a discussion about legal age and some people gave their opinion in which they also happenen to tell their own experience)
I know that some people who do have sex (or so I deduce from knowing they are a forumcouple for quite some time) haven't contributed to this thread. I also read a post from a young guy who haven't had sex and wants to wait for the perfect girl.
To my opinion a lot of the stories were true. You might be very right that somebody is lying. But I myself do not care too much, it didn;t affect the discussion.
I can see that you can get sick of it, being faced with it every day. And I can (as I said before) see your point on nerds who should just get away from that computer and start living a full live including all the things they might lie about online. And maybe you did reach somebody. I know I was touched by your post. Not because it concerns me (being a 22 year old girl in a long relationship and a full social life (don;t we say that all ;) ) but because it expresses some of the feelings I have now and then against every forumcommunity which makes people who are unsure about themselves in the outside world feel warm and safe and loved. But I am 100% sure that online friends won;t hug you when you need a hug of will do your grocery shopping when you are ill.

So now I am totally offtopic and I will quit this post. And I might start a new thread on: Social Life on the internet; the benefits and costs involved ;)

[Dr-Electro]

If I could reach you from where I sit, I would hug you now.

I have been alive for more than half a century, real time. I have two children who are in their thirties. I have three grandchildren who are growing up too quickly. (I can't bounce them on my knee when they get too heavy to bounce.)

I was writing about American high school kids when I spoke of those who lie about having sex with people they have never even spoken to. These are the same types of people you are writing about from your game servers. At my fortieth high school reunion, I will be able to count the number of those pathetic, social outcasts on one hand. Most of them no longer show their faces around the rest of us. Some of them have already passed away, God rest their souls.

If any of you doubt the veracity of my statements about my age, look up my picture in "Pics of You" thread. I'm actually older than I look.

Ok, having written my preamble, I am prepared to write about the level of experience I have actually had with regards to sex. On second thought, I still don't kiss and tell. But one does not father a generation of children any other way, at least from my age group. My kids predate the beginnings of mass in vitro fertilizations. I never mated via test tube.

Was I a horny teenaged hormone loosed upon an unsuspecting world? Of course I was. I had to survive adolescence to live as long as I have. I still feel for everybody who is still experiencing the ups and downs. The bad news is that you have to experience them if you want to live past the age of 21 or so.

I agree with Disturbed most completely about those who lie about sexual experiences they have never had: Losers! Stop the baloney and actually take the time to experience interacting with other human beings! People are not impossible to talk to. Just be yourself and you will eventually find your way into an acceptable social circle. From there, romance arises from contact with other humans. It ain't rocket science, folks.

Last thought: being softer, gentler and kinder in your public assessments of other people's faults and shortcomings can lead to an improved social life. This is true for everybody. If you don't try to piss people off, you probably won't.

Honey attracts better than vinegar. Sniff some of each and see what you think.

[Martial Law]

Originally posted by Beef Magic
[B]You sir, are a premier league cunt because you agree with me and you have my avatar :D

Hoorah, no longer a division two cunt! :nana:

What's the big deal about sex anyway, I mean everyone makes it out that you 'mature' or something after you have sex and that it's some big event in your life. Are we really so strongly driven by the Eros part of our Id?

[rabid anarchist]

Quite.

Pfft, big deal, uve had sex.
Move on and get over yourself :rolleyes:
You'll be doing it for the rest of your life (possibly) anyway.

I still dont think anyone takes any notice of the legal age.
The only reason the Govt dont get rid of it is becasue it would be an unpopular move in the eyes of some adults who think kids actually pay attention to the law.

[Flower]

The minimum age isn't there to stop kids shagging each other - its to stop adults taking advantage of kids.

[rabid anarchist]

hmm.

But it doesnt do that either.

[Beef Magic]

Two words - Gary Glitter


Beat that kiddlywinks.

[Trof]

:cool: Well said

[Dr-Electro]

Mrs. E. found this linky. I thought it might be relevant to this topic.

http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/74/89189.htm

Now who's sexy?

[Yoggerflame]

Make a sentence from the following words and pharses...

Paedophile (sp?)

Key

dark room

lock

throw

key

[rabid anarchist]

oh dear.

David Beckham sexiest man? laughing out loud! pfft...

And J-Lo sexiest girl? Oh dear God...

[Dr-Electro]

I think it strengthens the case that some people are good at screwing around with statistics. After all, we all know Americans are sexier than a bunch of Brazilians! :rolleyes: sheesh!

When I was but a lad, Dolly Parton was an up and coming lass. I never understood all the hype over her. To me she was just a hillbilly chick with a second-rate boob-job. I have always thought her face could make a freight train take a dirt road. Now, we get
J-Lo and her chubby ass thrust at us in a TV bombardment. Who the @#$%! cares??!?

For true beauty, see Pics of You. My kids and grandkids have it all over those overhyped celebs!!

[/hrumph!]

[xxcabbageheadxx]

Dammit. I'm dying to live in London. The U.S. sucks. If I had the option of moving to England, I'd be there in three seconds. DAMMIT!

[Seraph]

Ill trade places with you xxcabbageheadxx!!

Im American... Lived in Florida ALL my life, till 3 years ago, when i moved to England. 1 hour away from London by train...

....What doya say?

[Meteuro]

Well as one of the youngster's on this board (13), I would like to have my say.

All us boys dream about sex, but I don't think that we believe that we are fully ready (many people that I know don't even know half the stuff about sex, probably myself included). Alot of the people who do have sex while they're underage do it for two reasons: Peer presure and rebelliousness. It's like all those people who have been dating since year 6 just so that they're dating, you know? Of course we do get all those people saying that they slept with whoever last night and they did whatever kinky act that comes to their head, but we ALL know that they're lying. If they really did do it, there's no way that they would go around telling people about it. 'Cause there are so many people out there who would use it against them. Personally, I'd be satisfied with just a kiss. But then again, that's just me.

I think that the over-16 law is fine. Most of us probably won't even have the opportunity to do it until then anyway. I think that there's one group who want to have sex as soon as possible, no matter what stands in their way, and another group who are responsible enough to know that it's probably best to wait. It's a thin red line between them, you're pretty much one or the other (atleast in my age group, from what I've seen).

Well, there's my $0.02 AUD.

Meteuro.

[Dr-Electro]

There are also the unfortunate lot who have sex forced on them at a too-young age. Others go into it willingly based on misinformation or an early assertion of the hormonal urge. They just don't know what's happening and don't know how to control it. Rare, but it does happen.

I have a really hard spot in my heart for sexual predators. They have a tendency to not fare well with me.:twisted:

Mind you, I understand that the concept of revenge is wrong, but if a child-raper is dead, it can't rape any more children, can it?:angel:

[Beef Magic]

That reminded me of a topic we did in RE once... We had to decide if Captial Punishment is correct or not. Naturally, the majority of the class were on the side against Captial Punishment, including myself.

I asked the opposing side "If I killed someone who was sodomising children, would I then be killed myself by Capital Punishment?"

They said yes.

Hmm.

[Dr-Electro]

Well, yes, but they have to catch me and prove it.

I don't really go around playing the vigilante. I turn over any evidence I have to the proper authorities, including baseless rumors. It's their job to investigate it and arrest and prosecute the bad guys. I get angry, but then I find out all I can and turn the creeps in.

I occasionally have deep passions about sensitive subjects.

[PiesInTheory]

Originally posted by Beef Magic
I asked the opposing side "If I killed someone who was sodomising children, would I then be killed myself by Capital Punishment?"


When you put it that way I couldn't help but disagree more-so with Captial punishment, but that really isn't the topic on this thread (perhaps you should make one) so I won't elaborate.

My feelings about the topic at hand:

Now I'm not planning on having sex until marriage, but that isn't a belief held by many these days. I'm not opposed to sex at a kinda young age (meaning LATE teens and up none of this early high school crap I wish I could smack them) but hey, it's an ADULT situation and requires more thinking through than yes or no. It has consequences much of the time that nobody my age can handle, so that's why I don't advise anyone who can't handle having a child to not do it. Sex is meant to be an intimate bond between two people, and it has been reduced to much less than that. It is important (at least in my opinion) that it be done for the right reasons. Sex is more than (some) teenagers think, and it's more committment than I could handle, so I'm going to be responsible and not even worry about it for a while. Going on when it feels right isn't always the way to go, but I'm not against anything relating to the subject unless it's kids and people who aren't ready but do it anyways, they are only going to hurt themselves. Also, sex in a relationship in high school is also a kinda bad idea (most of the time) because most relationships aren't stable enough to handle the aftermath of it, I personally don't know what that entails but hey "sex changes everything" right? Don't take it to the next level because you feel physically ready, make sure it's an emotional bond as well otherwise it could come crashing down, and quickly.

[Dr-Electro]

Proving once again that you are a very deep thinker. You seem batter able to visualize potential consequences, thereby enabling yourself to avoid mistakes which may hurt you in the future. Your decisions show maturity and discretion.

Just don't forget to enjoy the other good things of life.;)

[PiesInTheory]

Originally posted by Dr-Electro
Just don't forget to enjoy the other good things of life.;)

Yeah I plan on not doing that. I have a long ways to go. I just got to worry about school and enjoying my teen years for now. And on topic, I look forward to sex as a mysterious thing that I am meant to enjoy with the right person later in life, I'm not saying it's going to be all perfect and glamorous, but I'm leaving it in my pocket (no pun intended) for now.

[Dr-Electro]

:D

I like the way you think. You also have a knack for expressing yourself that makes sense. Cultivate that talent and you could someday be a great speaker or leader. Just an observation.:D

[PiesInTheory]

ha thanks I'm not that much of an orator . I'd love to be like an editorialist kinda guy for a magazine or newspaper though.

[Mexican Pie]

I go to High School. It's hard. Most of my friends (a large majority of them... except maybe me and 1 or 2 other guys) have had girl friends... It's really starting to piss me off.

Seriously. I do my best at school and stuff, but my mind always seems to wander off, thinking what it would be like having a girlfriend at school. I think it's because of my parents and all. They keep saying that my study should come first. I know that they are right about that and all. But I'm just a regular male teen. And all male teens are horny when they get past 14. I'm almost 16 now.

Damn Hormones. It's like a roller coaster ride. Up one day, Revolver next to my head the next.

[PiesInTheory]

Yeah I agree, it's a crazy ride I'm still in. But don't worry about having to have a girlfriend, and definitly don't go get one just to have one. And hey just give it time, I didn't date until 10th grade in high school. Just do what works for you.

[SemiCircle]

be prepared for much flameage, as i haven't read the entire thread...

sex is fun (or so i have heard:( ). some think, "wahay, i like this, i shall do this as often as possible!" which i think is a bad idea. it might be fun, but if you're in a stable relationship then it'd be special too (or so i imagine:( ). so, i wouldn't have sex outside such a relationship (but i've never had the opportunity :(, so i can't know for sure), and i look down on sluts who sleep around for fun.
babies are another matter. i don't think a child should be raised outside of a stable, loving family unit, and for this reason i think that people should always use condoms or whatever unless they are in a position to provide such a unit. however, accidents do happen. what the parents do in such a situation is up to them. i think i would probably... well, actually, i don't know what i'd do. panic, probably, which is not a good thing. however, i'd take every precaution not to arrive in that situation. i certainly dissagree with the concept of single parentage.

[goody 2 shoos]

bill... i wanna know what the highlands are i really do....
if only i had the time for it:o

sorry... we have a highlands here in nj (2 actually) sooooo...

i think i knew before you!!!!

but if i didnt i would wed you for lawful life!!!;)

[Dr-Electro]

*I love to kiss!* [/B]

Okay, pucker up!

[hazybubbles]

i think the general idea of the law to protect younger people in this matter is good. however it obviously doesnt and in reality cant take into account the different ways we all mature, and when different people will be ready to mentally deal with the experience of sex. it is also there really to try and reduce the number of teen pregnancies.

but really if you feel ready and it feels right the law isnt going to stop you when it comes to something like this.

all i can say is that it doesnt really mean anything to me unless im with someone i love, which is how i believe it should be.

[Owensy]

no one is ever going to get to the end of the sex debate as everyone has different ideas. some peeps belive in waiting till they are married before they do it some dont. it doesnt matter about the age of consent coz woteva it is people will still break it. i know peeps who lost thier V at 12. but i also know a 25 yr old virgin. the gov only put the age of consent so that it looks like they care, do ya really think their arsed bout loadsa horny little kids runnin round the place. or are they trying to get votes and make money.

[Dr-Electro]

The general idea of the original laws was the intention of protecting the younger kids from sexual predators. Innocence became a popular concept during Victorian times. Prior to then, arranged marriages had girls as young as 11 in arranged marriages with men old enough to be their grandfathers.

There is more behind it than just that, but my intention is to give a thumbnail sketch of the general idea. Age of consent is a concept that has been around longer than any of today's politicians have been alive. It really isn't about money and votes.

[Garrett]

Originally posted by Dr-Electro
It really isn't about money and votes.

Damn straight.

[Dr-Electro]

^Look! An endorsement!
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[Destrukto]

Originally posted by Owensy
the gov only put the age of consent so that it looks like they care, do ya really think their arsed bout loadsa horny little kids runnin round the place. or are they trying to get votes and make money.

Why always this paranoia about "The State or Government"?
There are good people in there that DO care...

The age of consent was put in place after we didn't think of children as "Mini-adults", so after Rousseau and Locke formulated theories about childhood and individual freedom...

Whe you start to think like that, you need to protect children...

We almost all think like that now, and you too...

Laws are not about PARTICULARS, they are about GENERALITIES...
That's why we have judges and lawyers, to INTERPRET the law...

Sheesh, get a basic education on how democratic governments work, before you blow your top about "The Government"... :rolleyes:

[PoofBird]

Originally posted by Destrukto
Sheesh, get a basic education on how democratic governments work, before you blow your top about "The Government"... :rolleyes:

boosh :)

[katox]

what are your views on the new male contraceptive pill being currently developed in austrailia(i think)? apparently it has no side effects and is hundred percent effective (have to wait a couple of years though for it to come out, grrr).

would you fellas consider taking it?

[PoofBird]

Sure I would, my girlfriend's been pumping hormones in her body for years, seems only fair (and probably healthy for her to be off it for a while)

[Destrukto]

I don't see why I wouldn't take it...

Let me be the one that gets bloated, could do with the extra weight :)

[squealpiggy]

It's an interesting debate to be sure. I believe that the Germans have the right idea, their age of consent varies, I think that the minimum age is 14 or something but the oldest partner can be no more than 16, and this age restriction continues. Once a person is 18 they're on their own so to speak and are free to nob wrinklies, but until then restrictions are based on the respective ages of the partners. It's much fairer.

Oh and the person who mentioned Gary Glitter, look:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tony.moss/paedospeedo2.jpg

Paedos in Speedos!

Apologies in advance for my poor taste.

[*shorty*]

i dont really believe in having sex b4 marriage, i personally, want to wait so i can share that moment with the one person i will love, it will be more special....and remember.... TRUE LOVE WAITS!!!! hehe

[squealpiggy]

But what if you're sexually incompatible? It happens, even people who are truly in love when it comes to getting horizontal just clash. There isn't the sexual chemistry there to make that part of a marriage work. I agree with waiting for the first time until you are emotionally ready for that level of commitment and I also agree with sensibly discussing the precautions that you will use against STDs and pregnancy, but to state definitively that you wish to be legally bound to one another before you even know what each other looks like naked is I think a little uncautious.

[*shorty*]

i know what youre trying to say but i dont think i would want to do out until im married, its just not something i believe in, yes i am a christian, nd i believe that when i do marry, it will be for the right reasons, nd it will be right... neways, sex isnt all you need for a loving relationship. although i also know that it would be pretty crap if you didnt do it, hehe. :D :rolleyes: :weebl:

[squealpiggy]

It's an important part of a marital relationship, and is a massive cause of marital problems particularly in strongly religious partnerships. It is of course your personal choice, but don't forget that marriage is for life and you don't want to spend your life with a man (I am assuming you are female) who you thought was "the one" but is in fact "the one inch".

[*shorty*]

hehe yes i am female, lol and i know what you mean, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, i spose its just how the cuple feel toward eachother. they shouldcome to the agreement between themselves

[eleanor]

I don't agree that "sex is essential" for thirteen year olds in London at all - quite the opposite, you'll all be fucked up not to put too fine a point on it. The emotions involved are too much for children to handle, which is one reason for the age of consent.

Also I disagree that sex before marriage means you will "see the devil in person". I used to believe that, but think about it - the Bible was written when it was socially unconscionable for a woman to be a single mother, when she would have been stoned for this and sent into exile. It was also written by men, and at a time when there was no contraception available. Thus, no sex before marriage was intended as a guideline I believe.

Contrast with today - single mothers are no longer seen as the spawn of Satan because society is more tolerant and understanding. Also, Durex? yanno?

another point: if "no sex before marriage" was so very important to God, I think it would've been made into a commandment. In reality, it isn't - it's a suggestion and a guideline, nothing more.

Which of the following would you say are committing the worse sin - a loving 19-yr-old couple in a long term stable relationship having consensual and meaningful sex, or a gang of youths who burgle, stab and kill an old woman? It's all a question of the bigger picture.

[Beef Magic]

I was thinking today (steady....)

In one of my old man style rants, I decided it pointless to try and persue after someone which I have been after for a while, because more likely than not we'll split up in no time. We're both young. Chances are we would to just... well, increase knowledge of relationships, for want of a better description.

[notmarcie]

Its past 1 am which means its time for notmarcie to chip in.

UK ages of consent


The age of consent is set at 16 for all sex (oral as well !) for hetrosexuals and male homosexuals. The age of gay consent was lowered on Ist December 2000. It is also now legal for hetrosexual couples to have anal sex at 16. Lesbians don't exist in law because Queen Vicky didnt think women would be so depraved, however as it is deemed nobody can give consent to sex until they are 16 this can be considered an age of consent for lesbians

The age of 16 for hetrosexuals was selected because there is evidence that under that age giving birth can cause serious long term damage to women eg uteruses are not fully formed, and the vagina is also more likely to suffer irreperable stretching. Also the pelvis isn't fully formed and so it less able to move apart causing complications and a risk of birthing complications which can affect the health of both mother and child.

The age of consent in the UK used to be 13 until the late 19th century !
I used to work for Brook and teach sex education , I am a one stop sex advice shop

http://www.ageofconsent.com has huge amounts on information and background on why laws are set at certain ages

[almighty_bob]

Originally posted by *shorty*
hehe yes i am female, lol and i know what you mean, everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, i spose its just how the cuple feel toward eachother. they shouldcome to the agreement between themselves

a very gorgeous female at that...
i agree with what you have to say, however; before making that step, I do agree with the others,

basically what I am saying is, I agree with you on the whole 'no sex before marriage' issue, I do feel however that if you are in a relationship which you know is right, and that it is ultimately leading towards marrigae, then perhaps you should consider testing the horizontal compatibilty...

WARNING: this can go fatally wrong, if you misjudge where the relationship is heading

FINAL STATEMENT; each to there own!

I agree with many German laws...
I follow christians beliefs...

:weebl:

[squealpiggy]

another point: if "no sex before marriage" was so very important to God, I think it would've been made into a commandment. In reality, it isn't - it's a suggestion and a guideline, nothing more.

The traditionalist argument to this is that the term "adultery" at the time of the commandments actually included fornication. It was any sexual congress which was not blessed by God. So of course the church would suggest that at the time the commandments were written there was one prohibiting sex before marriage. It's funny how the bible is God's literal word and not subject to context when it suits the church's purpose but when they have a personal belief that they wish to back up then suddenly context is important!


Which of the following would you say are committing the worse sin - a loving 19-yr-old couple in a long term stable relationship having consensual and meaningful sex, or a gang of youths who burgle, stab and kill an old woman? It's all a question of the bigger picture.


Erm... I'm not sure exactly what you're getting at here but I don't think that even the most fear crazed crack addict would think that this was any kind of dilemma.

[eleanor]

I meant by the thing about gang robbery that when compared to bigger, more dangerous and/or antisocial sins, consensual sex in the context of a loving relationship pales into insignificance a bit :p

I'd never heard that about the commandment context thing :eek: but I do have Christian friends (I myself probably count as non-practising cos I never go on a Sunday, but I do pray etc.) who take the same stance as me re: sex.



Also, I'm on Faceparty and get really pissed off with all those stupid 16yrolds (male and female) whose profiles brag about how much they love sex, getting drunk, and taking drugs. How do they think that's going to make them look big or clever? Personally, I've never tried a cigarette, I drink but in moderation because I don't actually like the feeling of being drunk (!), I've never tried drugs, and although I fantasised when I was sixteen (obviously) I knew I wasn't ready. Now I know most people probably have tried fags and drugs at some point, but most people I know have only tried them once or twice if at all, and were never seriously "druggie" (I'm talking majority here, not noticeable minority)

I really doubt these kids on Faceparty are mature enough to be having sex. As a wise man once said,* if you're old enough to be partaking, you don't bang on about it because you realise that NO-ONE REALLY CARES!


*my boyfriend, on seeing one such profile

[almighty_bob]

well spoken, agree with you in entirely

never smoked or tried drugs... never intend to

whats so big about getting drunk?
means some poor mate has to look after you

[goody 2 shoos]

ya... i just saw somethin that says that if you smoke marijauna the man becomes less fertile, which is wierd cuz in the u.s there's a commercial that says this girl smoked marijuana and she was like, at a party that everyone was smoking marijuana and has sex and ends up pregnant
not right at all

[freddiestarfish]

smoking a bit of weed doesnt necercerally make you impotent

and you wouldnt beleive how easy it is to get someone pregnant

[Pie Diddy]

It affects fertility if you smoke it regularly, if they just smoked it one night it wouldn't make much difference

[goody 2 shoos]

i know that, geez im not stupid
just less fertile

[Dude]

The thing is, if its illegal to have sex under 16, who will find out........

(Theres hidden camaras everywhere) EEEK!!!

[Fanta]

but so much stuff reduces fertility... like liqourice for example. i think soya does to and riding a bike.

and for girls their fevourite period pain reducer - ibuprofen

[squealpiggy]

Fanta I have found a great source for any future opinions or facts you might like to share with us:

http://www.fortnumandmason-usa.com/images/christmas_crackerscol.gif

[Beef Magic]

Originally posted by freddiestarfish
smoking a bit of weed doesnt necercerally make you impotent

and you wouldnt beleive how easy it is to get someone pregnant


Roman Cathloics believe you just have to be NEAR a woman :D

Boom, she's pregant.

[rabid anarchist]

ever wondered why you have so many wives, dave?

[Beef Magic]

that's just you love ;) haha

But what I said earlier, I take it back. Just live, you know? So what if it all ends a few months or whatever later, at least it happened. It's best not to get all depressed about it, but some people just do. I don't understand these people, they seem to not understand the world they are in.

God, I'm so old fashioned.

[Dude]

Originally posted by Beef Magic
Roman Cathloics believe you just have to be NEAR a woman :D

Boom, she's pregant.

I am a roman cathloic and I dont belive that! You have to stick it in them first.

[notmarcie]

If squealpiggy wasn't getting married in January I would propose right now

[Thatcow212]

as long as sum sort of protection is used, so no kids could possibly come about...unless its not in that oraface or in a pie... :mmmpie:

[notmarcie]

Unfortunately , contraception doens't account for human stupidity. Condoms are about 97% effective. in lab tests, Add drunken fumbling teeneagers (or fully grown adults for that matter) and it can drop to 70%.
I used to run sex education workshops in schools, and the level of ignoreande of some of the teenagers I worked with is terrifying.

As well as funny. Like when I asked what kind of lubricant you shoudln't use with a condom. One kid raised their hands and said' Fairy Liquid (its a washing up liquid)
Another kidsaid engine oil.

And its true you shouldn't use it, but the fact these kids thought it worries me

[Dr-Electro]

There is no defeating stupidity. As Mr. Franklin once wrote:
"Never argue with an idiot. You will eventually sink to his level and he will beat you there. You can't win an argument against stupidity."

[Fanta]

Originally posted by Dr-Electro
There is no defeating stupidity. As Mr. Franklin once wrote:
"Never argue with an idiot. You will eventually sink to his level and he will beat you there. You can't win an argument against stupidity."

so why do people persist in arguing with me then?

[Beef Magic]

Originally posted by Dude
I am a roman cathloic and I dont belive that! You have to stick it in them first.


I was quoting someone called Dennis who's last name i cannot spell.

[goody 2 shoos]

ummmm...
were talking about how old you gotta be to have sex, but how old should ya be to stop?
i would say 75, maybe.... aww, love can last forever
touching, bit gross, but touching:( :)

[Seraph]

Originally posted by goody 2 shoos
ummmm...
were talking about how old you gotta be to have sex, but how old should ya be to stop?
i would say 75, maybe.... aww, love can last forever
touching, bit gross, but touching:( :)

Can't that vary?

Depends on the person's sex drive.. and whether they are competent or not.

Alot of older people just like to 'be.' Just like the company of eachother..
The majority of the youth, well, alot of them, want to be all over eachother and touch all the time..
Hand and hand, face to face, etc. until they realise that they dont need to be all over eachother to show their affection.

Comes with maturity i guess. :)

[Beef Magic]

Hugh Heffner.



boosh.

[squealpiggy]

FHM once asked Hugh Hefner if he ever though "sod it" and just had a w ank.

[goody 2 shoos]

im just sayin, not how old you can be to have sex, but more like, when it starts to get gross
hugh heffner rox my world, he has a 13 year old, i think

[PoofBird]

Originally posted by goody 2 shoos
im just sayin, not how old you can be to have sex, but more like, when it starts to get gross
hugh heffner rox my world, he has a 13 year old, i think

then what's your point? Hugh is gross?
and is it because he is old, or because he 'has' a 13 year old?

And if he has, where did you read/hear that?

and an age limit for sex is absolute nonsense. If you think it's gross, stop thinking about it.

[goody 2 shoos]

Originally posted by PoofBird
then what's your point? Hugh is gross?
and is it because he is old, or because he 'has' a 13 year old?

And if he has, where did you read/hear that?

and an age limit for sex is absolute nonsense. If you think it's gross, stop thinking about it.

no, hugh is not gross, i'm only asking people their opinion about if they think "old" sex is gross. i think its cute.
and i heard about the 13 year old (actually saw him in hugh's movie room) in cribs, and american sitcom on mtv, were they take you to see a look through stars houses. the one at mariah carey's was sooooo wierd, she was like, stripping and then took a bath in a towel (had the towel on in the bathtub). she is wacked out, no wonder she had a nervous breakdown. the way she acted, uuugh, makes me wanna puke and laugh hysterrically.
she wouldnt let us see her room cuz that was "something that she wanted for herself cos everything elese is soo public" and she won't take a shower cos "all the knobs and things are so confusing" geezus krist, get an actual reality check!:confused: :confused: :confused: :nana: :o :) ;) :D :rolleyes:

[Dr-Electro]

Once upon a time I thought Mariah Carey was a cutie. Then I realized what a self-centered demon she really is. You shoud see what she puts film crews through and what she demands to have in her dressing room! She's a freeeeeeeeek!

Fanta, your one-eyed cat is cute. Do you ever catch him peeping into a seafood store? (ancient song lyric that probably only I have ever heard)

[squealpiggy]

Mariah Carey is a shrieking harriden. A definite force for evil.

[notmarcie]

Old people sex is not gross to old people. If you find bodies no longer in the prime 'gross' then I suggest you pray to be near blind once you hit 60. It doesn't matter what I think about it right now. I don't think about other people having sex. Its a bit pervy.

As for Hugh Hefner 'having' a 13 year old. Does this mean as a sexual partner or a child that he fathered

[Dr-Electro]

The son he and his second wife had is thirteen. She almost ended the Playboy empire with her maternal ways. Now, the old man is back to having fun on the run as fast as he can. I'm younger than he is and have maybe half his energy. Perhaps I didn't have enough athletic sex with multiple partners when I was younger. Nah, I just abused my body too much in other physical ways, like fighting wars.

By the way, I'm not worried about Hef's kid. He'll be all right. Dad doesn't have sex with boys, just girls and all of them are over eighteen.

[sjaak]

Originally posted by Pixel
i could be wrong, but i read somewhere that 16 is the age of consent for girls, boys dont actually have one....

if im right, this could mean that if a 15 year old boy has sex with a 16 year old girl, it would be legal...

even worse (or better if you're a sicko), it'd be legal for a 6 year old boy to have sex with a 16 year old girl :)