The Greatest Ever... - weebls-stuff forums

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 04:30 PM

There are many questions that are hard to answer..
Q. Who is the greatest footballer ever?

Q. Who is the greatest team ever?

Q. If you could create a player with abilities taken from other players. Who and what would they be?

This is the thread to talk about each others views on who the greatest are. We have argued many a time down the pub about this.

So to start with I will post a question and we can all converse about it. After a couple of week I will take everyones results and we will have a forum winner. I will then post another question. It is not limited to football but it is a good place to start.

This weeks question...

Who is the greatest footballer ever?

Discuss...

PJ · 05-05-2004, 04:33 PM

who is the greatest footballer ever?

simple question pele

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 04:37 PM

Personally I disagree. The best player that I have ever seen is Zidane. I think he is a more complete player than Pele. He has won trophies in many countries and scored goals in majot cup finals. I would make George Best a close second.

AngryPaul · 05-05-2004, 04:41 PM

There is a lot to consider and I think it is hard to comapre the footballers of 'yesteryear' to those of today. We had the main superstars of the game today (mainly from Real)
* Beckham
* Zidane
* Henry
* Figo (a few years ago)
* Ronaldo
* Ronaldinho
* Roberto Carlos
* Van Nistelrooy [/United fan]

But we also have to consider the older generation of genuises like:
* Pele
* Eusebio
* Bobby Moore
* Bobby Charlton
* George Best
* Diego Maradona
* Johan Cruyff

However, even with the likes of these lads I still tend to look towards the classic 'galacticos' of Madrid and a little known Hungarian who was bossing the footballing world around. I am talking bout the World Cup winning Fenerc Puskas. His strike partner at Real was Alfredo Di Stefano. They achieved no less than 9 European cups together and in one final played at Hampden Park, Glasgow (1960) - they scored no less than SEVEN goals betwwen them (Puskas x4, Di Stefano x3) Truely the greatest

Fenerc Puskas and Alfredo Di Stefano

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 04:46 PM

Di Stefano was an amazing player. I have watched some old real matches and they looked amazing. I think they had a bloke on the wing called "Gento" or something. He was brilliant too.

I remember once seeing a programme on "Who is the Greatest player" and they said that Di Stefano was much better than Pele.
*raises eyebrows*

Cap'n Zola · 05-05-2004, 04:51 PM

As a Chelsea fan and a Zola fanatic; I'd have to say....

Diego Maradona

He was the mentor of Gianfranco Zola at Napoli and truly is the greatest technical player that's ever lived...ever!

Of course, as AP has pointed out...there's also the other greats like Pele, Eusebio, Johan Cruyff and I'd agree with Ronaldo and Zidane being on the list...

It seems that everyone has forgotten about a certain Danish player...Michael Laudrup...I was speaking to my friends about him the other week and they were like...
"....

....You mean, Brian Ladrup, right?"

Brian Laudrup was great but had nothing on his bro.

Also - Marco van Bastin was truly a great.

AngryPaul · 05-05-2004, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cap'n Zola
Also - Marco van Bastin was truly a great.

Seconded

I also think players Rivaldo, Romario, Bebeto, Roberto Baggio, Rossi, Gordon Banks also can be included but some of the ones I had mentioned before obviously come above these players.

Also people have overlooked the second most influencial player in the 1970's Brazil side

Jarzinho

[edit] and another one we have overlooked:

George Weah

i-am-the-eggman · 05-05-2004, 04:53 PM

I think youll have to add Maldini to the list.

Who would you consider to be the best ever keeper (as none have been spotted on here)

Edit - Banksie would be my bet

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 04:55 PM

Yeah there have ^^ Gordon Banks
I thought I was the one asking the questions...

-Edit-
Don't forget to put who you think is the best in your post.

Cap'n Zola · 05-05-2004, 04:56 PM

In the past 10 years I'd have to say Peter Schmeichel (bugger sp) and Gianluigi Buffon but they both made/make quite a few mistakes, which you can't not expect though.

I used to play in goals and know what it feels like. No one remebers unless you make, like a somersaulting, backflipping, cart-wheeling diving save or something.

i-am-the-eggman · 05-05-2004, 04:58 PM

not even that (also a keeper myself) anyone still remember the name of that keeper (mexican?) who saved a shot with the "scorpion kick"? i cant

Schmiechel would be a good bet but he came out too much (for corners etc) and got caught out so many times with it,

Cap'n Zola · 05-05-2004, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AngryPaul
George Weah

Bugger. Forgot about him!

George Weah, AC Milan mainly, had a loan season at Chelsea before leaving for some club in the UAE (United Arab Emirates).

He won FIFA player of the year in 1995, deservedly...
None of my mates have a parakeet's wing's idea of who he is...
Truly great...

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 04:59 PM

Schmiechel was the best ever! Even though I am a kopite I would have to say that this man was a true giant of a keeper.

There have been some other great keepers.
Ray Clemance
Gordon Banks
Lev Yashin
Sepp Maier
Jose Chilavert

-Edit-
The scorpion kick was performed by Colombian kepper Rene Higita (sp?)

On the subject of George Weah. He only did well in Italy. You can't really say that he is among the best ever let alone in Serie A.

AngryPaul · 05-05-2004, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Streety
On the subject of George Weah. He only did well in Italy. You can't really say that he is among the best ever let alone in Serie A.

He is more in the category with the Romario's, Rossi's and Rivaldo's. He still own the FIFA World Player of the Year award though.

*I remember that scorpion kick - closest Jamie Redknapp ever got to an international goal.*

*streety* · 05-05-2004, 05:17 PM

Leave my Jamie alone...
The whistle had already gone anyways

05-05-2004, 04:30 PM	#1
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	The Greatest Ever... There are many questions that are hard to answer.. Q. Who is the greatest footballer ever? Q. Who is the greatest team ever? Q. If you could create a player with abilities taken from other players. Who and what would they be? This is the thread to talk about each others views on who the greatest are. We have argued many a time down the pub about this. So to start with I will post a question and we can all converse about it. After a couple of week I will take everyones results and we will have a forum winner. I will then post another question. It is not limited to football but it is a good place to start. This weeks question... Who is the greatest footballer ever? Discuss...

05-05-2004, 04:41 PM	#4
AngryPaul Dude, I'm getting married Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Brizzle Posts: 11,307	There is a lot to consider and I think it is hard to comapre the footballers of 'yesteryear' to those of today. We had the main superstars of the game today (mainly from Real) * Beckham * Zidane * Henry * Figo (a few years ago) * Ronaldo * Ronaldinho * Roberto Carlos * Van Nistelrooy [/United fan] But we also have to consider the older generation of genuises like: * Pele * Eusebio * Bobby Moore * Bobby Charlton * George Best * Diego Maradona * Johan Cruyff However, even with the likes of these lads I still tend to look towards the classic 'galacticos' of Madrid and a little known Hungarian who was bossing the footballing world around. I am talking bout the World Cup winning Fenerc Puskas. His strike partner at Real was Alfredo Di Stefano. They achieved no less than 9 European cups together and in one final played at Hampden Park, Glasgow (1960) - they scored no less than SEVEN goals betwwen them (Puskas x4, Di Stefano x3) Truely the greatest *Fenerc Puskas* and Alfredo Di Stefano __________________ dinnerordie: "the thought of being able to wipe my arse on a penguin fills me with glee" i did the bristol half marathon! still give your dosh though.

05-05-2004, 04:51 PM	#6
Cap'n Zola Got some pie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pirate Ship... Aberdeen. Posts: 4,413	As a Chelsea fan and a Zola fanatic; I'd have to say.... Diego Maradona He was the mentor of Gianfranco Zola at Napoli and truly is the greatest technical player that's ever lived...ever! Of course, as AP has pointed out...there's also the other greats like Pele, Eusebio, Johan Cruyff and I'd agree with Ronaldo and Zidane being on the list... It seems that everyone has forgotten about a certain Danish player...Michael Laudrup...I was speaking to my friends about him the other week and they were like... "........You mean, Brian Ladrup, right?" Brian Laudrup was great but had nothing on his bro. Also - Marco van Bastin was truly a great. __________________

05-05-2004, 04:53 PM	#8
i-am-the-eggman mini-pie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 145	I think youll have to add Maldini to the list. Who would you consider to be the best ever keeper (as none have been spotted on here) Edit - Banksie would be my bet __________________ This week i ave been mostly: Staying up at unearthly hours creating comic sketches and shirt animations for uni

05-05-2004, 04:56 PM	#10
Cap'n Zola Got some pie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Pirate Ship... Aberdeen. Posts: 4,413	In the past 10 years I'd have to say Peter Schmeichel (bugger sp) and Gianluigi Buffon but they both made/make quite a few mistakes, which you can't not expect though. I used to play in goals and know what it feels like. No one remebers unless you make, like a somersaulting, backflipping, cart-wheeling diving save or something. __________________

05-05-2004, 04:33 PM	#2
PJ Auto Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Yer maa Posts: 2,848	who is the greatest footballer ever? simple question pele

05-05-2004, 04:37 PM	#3
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	Personally I disagree. The best player that I have ever seen is Zidane. I think he is a more complete player than Pele. He has won trophies in many countries and scored goals in majot cup finals. I would make George Best a close second.

05-05-2004, 04:46 PM	#5
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	Di Stefano was an amazing player. I have watched some old real matches and they looked amazing. I think they had a bloke on the wing called "Gento" or something. He was brilliant too. I remember once seeing a programme on "Who is the Greatest player" and they said that Di Stefano was much better than Pele. raises eyebrows

05-05-2004, 04:55 PM	#9
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	Yeah there have ^^ Gordon Banks I thought I was the one asking the questions... -Edit- Don't forget to put who you think is the best in your post.

05-05-2004, 04:58 PM	#11
i-am-the-eggman mini-pie Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Birmingham, England Posts: 145	not even that (also a keeper myself) anyone still remember the name of that keeper (mexican?) who saved a shot with the "scorpion kick"? i cant Schmiechel would be a good bet but he came out too much (for corners etc) and got caught out so many times with it, __________________ This week i ave been mostly: Staying up at unearthly hours creating comic sketches and shirt animations for uni

05-05-2004, 04:59 PM	#13
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	Schmiechel was the best ever! Even though I am a kopite I would have to say that this man was a true giant of a keeper. There have been some other great keepers. Ray Clemance Gordon Banks Lev Yashin Sepp Maier Jose Chilavert -Edit- The scorpion kick was performed by Colombian kepper Rene Higita (sp?) On the subject of George Weah. He only did well in Italy. You can't really say that he is among the best ever let alone in Serie A. Last edited by Streety; 05-05-2004 at 05:01 PM..

05-05-2004, 05:17 PM	#15
streety www.twitter.com/streety_ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,542	Leave my Jamie alone... The whistle had already gone anyways