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Old 23-05-2004, 09:13 AM   #1
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New Betting Threads Posted here

I personally think that this forum is too clogged up with crappy betting threads that will never work i.e.Lotteries

And that is why i have made this thread.

If everyone who wants to make a new betting thread comes in here and posts its name, general jist of the game, odds and anything else in particular about the game.

Then the people who are high rollers e.g. Poofbird, Angrypaul or just everyone decides whether it is worthy of a try in the betting forum.

If this works then i think that there will be less poop threads clogging up the forum.
(and if this doesnt work then this is one of those threads, sorry)
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:19 AM   #2
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Brilliant idea ill join the jury
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:23 AM   #3
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ok but at the moment anyone can vote for a thread to stay, but if loads and loads come i may ask people to be a jury but i doubt it
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:33 AM   #4
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Good idea. It's quite clear from my various posts that I think most of the threads in here are crap attempts to get rich quick.
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:34 AM   #5
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Well, actually Peej, nobody wants betting shops ratified by you to be honest. AngryPaul and Poofbird would seem like the idea candidates.

I have to say, sheep go moo, I thought there would be another thread made by one of the 'superiors' along these lines, but at least someone made one.

I'm going to - you for all of this though, so that you don't get any rupies.
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:34 AM   #6
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i really need poofbird and ap to back this idea because they are the most respected people here and if they back this then the threads will be put in here
edit: watever4 ding im not bothered and thanks for the sig it is brilliant
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:51 AM   #7
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Im not so sure it will work. For the basic reason that: The crappy threads that are started in here are started by n00bs. N00bs dont tend to read stuckified or good threads first, they will think "oh look, a place i can get lots of monies" and will come in and start up a "NEW Forum Lottery!!!111" I dont think the people who start the crap threads will stop to think, and post in another thread first.
How about instead this part of the forum is moderated well and that person cheeses all the crap threads. Works in the other forums... why not here?
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Old 23-05-2004, 09:54 AM   #8
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it is because as put in the sports FAQ there will not be a mod and this isnt stuck so i think that pepole will look
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Old 23-05-2004, 10:03 AM   #9
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It wasnt said there wont be a mod, it was said that the mod wont be chosen by poopularity, if chosen. I still dont think noobs will read it, but.. time will tell.
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Old 23-05-2004, 10:05 AM   #10
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i am just hoping that noobs are getting clevererer
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Old 23-05-2004, 11:04 AM   #11
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This is a good idea in principal

Put the idea to a panel of forumites and that way ew can see if they have layed out and planned for this thread well adn if they have financial backing if needed.

However, and tis a shame, n00bs who look for a 'get rich quick scheme' wont actually be bothered about being given the thumbs up from us. We can see that they do not put much thought into their ideas
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Old 23-05-2004, 11:35 AM   #12
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Repost from the badger thread:

In each race there will be 5 badgers, the 5 badgers will be randomly selected from the list of badgers (there will be 15 to start, but more can always be added). Each of the 5 badgers will be assigned a number so people can bet on them.

The maximum bet is 50 rupies and the minimum bet is 15 (this can be changed dependant on funds).

However, if you want to push luck a bit more to your side, you can always purchase one of our sneaky items. When an item is purchased by someone, everyone else who was betting on that badger or bets on that badger must pay 25% of the price of the item as well because it will benefit everyone (and they're lucky getting it cheap).

How are winnings sorted out you may ask. Like so:

If you have bought an item then 50% of the item's value will be added to what you bet (i.e. if you bet 10, bought something for 16 it would come out as 18). Then all the bets would be added up for each badger then each better will have a percentage worked out - this is the percentage of the bets on that badger which was made by them.

When a badger wins, the money is treated as a whole - say it came to 300 for this instance. The badger that won had odds of 1/1 so 300 comes back as 600. Then everyone who betted on that badger gets their percentage from the winnings e.g. if bob had 50%, tom had 25% and peter had 25% then bob would get 300 and tom and peter would each get 150.

The course is split into 4 different sections, Section 1 being at the start and Section 4 being at the end.

Here is the items list:

6 rupies - random bomb (2 points, - 1 point off a random badger)
10 rupies - specific bomb (2 points, - 1 point off a chosen badger)
14 rupies - golden bomb (4 points, - 1 point off badger with most points or 2nd most if you have most)
18 rupies - nitro (6 points)

These are the base prices, you then add the following modifier for each section:

Section 1: - 2 rupies (+ 0 points)
Section 2: + 2 rupies (+ 1 point)
Section 3: + 6 rupies (+ 2 points)
Section 4: + 10 rupies (+ 3 points)

So for example say you wanted to buy a specific bomb to be dropped on badger 4 in section 3 it will cost: 10 + 6 rupies = 16 rupies for you, then everyone else who bets on that badger pays an extra 4 rupies as well. When it comes to the total income you will get 50% of this added to how much you bet, say you bet 10 it will be as if you had betted: 50% of 16 = 8 + 10 = 18.Then the points added to the badgers base points would be: 2 + 2 = + 4 and - 1 for badger 4.

And finally here are the list of badgers:

Thunder Titan - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Dark Devil - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Pinkers - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Badger2k - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Nightmare Revealer - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Badger.com - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Blossom - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Sunshine of the day - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Demon - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Death by numbers - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Bob - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Henry - 1/1 (base points: 10)
Edward the second - 1/1 (base points: 10)
BadgerBadger - 1/1 (base points: 10)

When a badger comes 1st their odds increase, 2nd odds increase by not as much, 3rd don't change, 4th decrease, 5th decrease by more.

We could have it like this:

1st: 1/1 -> 1/3
2nd: 1/1 -> 1/2
3rd: 1/1 -> 1/1
4th: 1/1 -> 2/1
5th: 1/1 -> 3/1

And we could have it so odds can't drop below 5/1 and get go above 1/5 (though I haven't tested this bit yet).

So for an example the next race will involve the following randomly selected badgers:

1: Henry - 1/1 (base points: 10)
2: Sunshine of the day - 1/1 (base points: 10)
3: BadgerBadger - 1/1 (base points: 10)
4: Badger2k - 1/1 (base points: 10)
5: Fatty the wonder badger - 1/1 (base points: 10)

Then people would proceed to bet.

'What about these points?' I hear you ask. It works like so:

After betting the total extra points for each badger (and total points removed if someone's used a sneaky bomb) will be added to the badger's base points (which will change depending on the odds for that badger - a badger with odds 1/2 would have 11 base points, a badger with 1/3 would have 12, a badge with 2/1 would have 9, etc.)

Then the total points would be added up so we have a grand total of points, lets say it turned out like this:

Badger 1: 10 points
Badger 2: 8 points
Badger 3: 16 points
Badger 4: 15 points
Badger 5: 20 points

Total: 69 points

The badgers would then get assigned number(s) by their points, so in this case:

Badger 1: 0 - 9
Badger 2: 10 - 17
Badger 3: 18 - 33
Badger 4: 33 - 48
Badger 5: 49 - 68

Then, using the trusty random number button on my calculator I'll generate the winner:

winner = rand. # * 68

(random number generates a random number between 0 and 1 - all decimals will be rounded)

Then this can be repeated until we have all the positions.

Random number can also be used to decided which badgers out of the list of 15 take part and which badger a random bomb gets dropped on.


What are your opinions on this?

edit: sorted the odds out, much thanks to dingbat for explaining.

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Old 23-05-2004, 11:39 AM   #13
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I personally think that it is a really good idea that is complicated, but not too much so that it is fun and makes you intrigued.
of course before you make a thread wait for AP or poofbird to give you the green light
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Old 23-05-2004, 01:12 PM   #14
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what is it, explain it, the odds, the rules and bets that can be made
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